Rolling Teenpop 2006 Thread

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Actually, Magonolia, written about in the lead of that linkable-a-half-hour-ago-but-apparently-not-anymore-what-the-heck? Times piece that Frank linked to two posts above, are a two-girl spinoff band of Hellish Relish, who can be read about here:

http://suziblade.com/thecolorguard/Scraps.html

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

New Avril single, from the soundtrack to Eragon. Keep Holding On. It's...pleasant I guess. Sounds like a worse version of Kelly Clarkson. Actually, as I understand it "Breakaway" was originally written for her, and I guess this is what it would have turned out like if they had gone through with it. I like Kelly better. Still, not a bad song. Seems like she may be going "mature" now, but I actually kind of liked her in "bratty" mode better than "mature" mode.

Clips from three songs to appear on the upcoming album fromKatharine McPhee posted to one of her fansites. Kat was, despite her horrible inconsistency, my favorite of the contestants on American Idol 5. She was always classy and old-timey jazzy/bluesy on the show and so I had assumed they were going to go in that direction for the album. But it's very R&B-ish. "Open Toes" is pretty much standard fare current uptempo R&B, but pretty good. "Over It" is a ripoff of JoJo, but I again think it's a good song. "Each Other" is a white R&B ballad, kind of boring. Album could be successful or could be a huge flop, I'm not really sure at this point.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:05 (8 years ago) Permalink

Hat tip to Popjustice.com Message Board for the Avril pointer, by the way.

Greg Fanoe (JustFanoe), Monday, 20 November 2006 13:29 (8 years ago) Permalink

Times link is working for me, but I'm registered with the Times. (In a few days the article might go pay only, however, which is what often happens after a week.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm posting both the Radio Disney 50 most-played songs for last week and the Radio Disney Top 30 as posted on the Disney site today, to see what discrepancies there are. Mediabase claims that the KDIS playlist includes both currents and recurrents, but I'm guessing that some oldies are considered too old to be classified even as recurrents and therefore aren't listed at all, or something: that is, I don't believe "The Cha Cha Slide" gets fewer than six plays a week. (I tuned in a couple of nights ago, and there it was.) I'd guess that "Gonna Make You Sweat" gets more as well. Notice on the playlist there's a top tier (through song eight) with spins in the high 60s and 70s, and then we drop precipitously to spins in the low 30s, starting with song nine. Cheetahs seem not to have staying power, hurrah.

KDIS-AM
Los Angeles - 1110 AM (Radio Disney)
LW: Nov 4 - Nov 10 TW: Nov 11 - Nov 17 Updated: Sat Nov 18 2:18 PM PST

lw TW Artist Title spinsTW spinslw +/- Reach/Mill
2 1 HANNAH MONTANA If We Were A Movie 77 77 0 0.3417
4 2 VANESSA HUDGENS Come Back To Me 75 74 1 0.3349
1 3 ASHLEY TISDALE Kiss The Girl 75 78 -3 0.3163
3 4 JESSE MCCARTNEY Right Where You Want Me 74 75 -1 0.3155
5 5 JONAS BROTHERS Year 3000 73 73 0 0.3134
10 6 JONAS BROTHERS Poor Unfortunate Soul 72 32 40 0.299
7 7 HANNAH MONTANA I've Got Nerve 72 72 0 0.2963
6 8 HANNAH MONTANA Best Of Both Worlds 68 73 -5 0.2854
13 9 B5 Keep Your Head In The Game 33 30 3 0.1353
14 10 BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985 33 30 3 0.1481
24 11 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 32 26 6 0.1346
18 12 RIHANNA SOS 32 30 2 0.1359
19 13 ALY & A.J. Chemicals React 31 29 2 0.1284
9 14 JOJO Too Little Too Late 31 34 -3 0.1378
17 15 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 31 30 1 0.1267
23 16 CHEETAH GIRLS The Party's Just Begun 30 28 2 0.1273
22 17 CHEETAH GIRLS Amigas Cheetahs 29 28 1 0.1368
34 18 CHEETAH GIRLS Route 66 29 17 12 0.1265
8 19 HANNAH MONTANA Who Said 29 72 -43 0.1111
20 20 CHEETAH GIRLS Step Up 28 29 -1 0.1143
15 21 CHEETAH GIRLS Strut 28 30 -2 0.1232
16 22 HAYLIE DUFF Material Girl 28 30 -2 0.1232
21 23 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL We're All In This Together 28 29 -1 0.1156
29 24 DANIEL POWTER Bad Day 28 24 4 0.1263
12 25 ALY & A.J. Rush 27 30 -3 0.1295
28 26 CRAZY FROG Axel F 27 24 3 0.1069
96 27 ALY & A.J. Greatest Time Of Year 26 1 25 0.1244
11 28 CHRIS BROWN Yo (Excuse Me Miss) 26 31 -5 0.0942
27 29 BOWLING FOR SOUP High School Never Ends 24 25 -1 0.1074
30 30 CRAZY FROG We Are The Champions 22 23 -1 0.0943
25 31 EVERLIFE Find Yourself In You 22 26 -4 0.0833
32 32 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL Breaking Free 18 18 0 0.0833
31 33 BELINDA Why Wait 17 20 -3 0.0605
36 34 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL Start Of Something New 15 13 2 0.052
35 35 EVERLIFE Look Through My Eyes 14 17 -3 0.0591
-- 36 SMASH MOUTH So Insane 13 0 13 0.073
-- 37 SMASH MOUTH The Crawl 9 0 9 0.0434
37 38 B5 Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf 7 8 -1 0.0553
47 39 BLACK EYED PEAS Let's Get It Started 7 5 2 0.03
63 40 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 6 4 2 0.016
65 41 HANNAH MONTANA Pumpin' Up The Party 6 4 2 0.0288
54 42 NELLY Over And Over (f/Tim McGraw) 6 5 1 0.0178
67 43 SIMPLE PLAN Shut Up 6 4 2 0.0204
43 44 ASHLEE SIMPSON Boyfriend 6 6 0 0.0226
56 45 ASHLEE SIMPSON Pieces Of Me 6 5 1 0.0244
69 46 RAVEN SYMONE Backflip 6 4 2 0.0173
58 47 WEEZER Beverly Hills 6 5 1 0.0111
45 48 B5 Dance For You 5 5 0 0.0148
60 49 B5 U Got Me 5 4 1 0.0135
48 50 BOWLING FOR SOUP Almost 5 5 0 0.0219

This is the Radio Disney Top 30 as posted on its site today, though they played the list on-air yesterday morning, so I'm guessing the week runs either to the 17th or the 18th. I'm not sure how they compile the Top 30, but requests must have a lot to do with it. I've bolded anything that's at least 10 places lower than the airplay standings, italicized anything that's 10 places higher.

For November 20, 2006

1 2 Hannah Montana "If We Were a Movie"
2 1 Ashley Tisdale "Kiss the Girl"
3 8 Hannah Montana "Best of Both Worlds"
4 3 Vanessa Hudgens "Come Back to Me"
5 9 Jonas Brothers "Year 3000"
6 5 Hannah Montana "I Got Nerve"
7 7 Jesse McCartney "Right Where You Want Me"
8 4 Mr C The Slide Man "Cha Cha Slide"
9 12 Hannah Montana "Who Said"
10 20 Jesse McCartney "Beautiful Soul"
11 6 Jonas Brothers "Poor Unfortunate Souls"
12 13 Crazy Frog "Crazy Frog (Axel F)"
13 10 JoJo "Too Little, Too Late"
14 -- Cheetah Girls "Cinderella"
15 15 Hannah Montana "Pumpin' Up the Party"
16 -- Jonas Brothers "Mandy"
17 11 Bowling For Soup "1985"
18 28 Hampton the Hampster "Hampsterdance Song"
19 21 High School Musical Cast "We're All In This Together"
20 24 Cheetah Girls "Amigas Cheetahs"
21 16 Aly and AJ "Rush"
22 26 Akon "Lonely"
23 debut Hilary Duff "Material Girl"
24 27 Aly and AJ "Chemicals React"
25 -- B5 "Get'cha Head In The Game"
26 18 Troy and Gabriella "Breaking Free"
27 23 Rihanna "S.O.S."
28 19 B5 "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf"
29 25 Cheetah Girls "The Party's Just Begun"
30 17 Cheetah Girls "Step Up"

I was assuming that most of the bold would be Disney product and most of the italics would be non-Disney. The numbers I get for BOLD are Disney 4, non-Disney 1. The numbers I get for italics are Disney 4, non-Disney 5. This is not as strong a result as I'd expected, esp. since I'm guessing that the non-Disney "Cha Cha Slide" is getting uncounted airplay. Also, notice some non-Disney product that's getting airplay but not making the site list (Tashbed, Powter). But then again, "Strut" and "Route 66" are Disney product that's in the Top 30 in airplay but isn't making the Disney chart. Basically, the Cheetahs are getting more airplay than requests, and that's the difference, if my assumption is correct about how they compile the site's Top 30 (but notice that "Cinderella" is an exception, getting more requests than airplay).

(Um, are the Hilary and Haylie versions of "Material Girl" different recordings, or is that a mistake?)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

I like "Keep Holding On" but not nearly as much as the slow wailers like "Unwanted" on the first Avril album. I'd classify "Keep Holding On" as a power ballad, which is the sort of thing that can fall on either side of the "maturity/immaturity" demarcation (or the "young/old" demarcation, anyway).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

Of the two McPhees I downloaded, I way prefer the JoJo rip ("Over It") to the Beyoncé stutter-toe workout ("Open Toes"); the latter isn't bad at all, and there are good insertions of harmony and lots of wails and melismas, but I don't know how it'll stand out from the pack. In "Over It" I'm not hearing a distinctive voice, but it's got the same exquisite sad prettiness as "Too Little Too Late," which must not be easy to do or more people would do it. We'll see how the song holds up. She says on her blog that she's working with Babyface, though I don't know if she worked with him on those two tracks.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm liking Jesse McCartney's "Right Where You Want Me," which reminds me of *NSync, year 2000, Timberlake's braying-goat period (a sound I enjoy).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Material Girl" is both of them together.

Thanks for posting both lists, I checked both today and didn't see huge discrepancies, but the Cheetah Girls gap suggests that the online votes aren't tampered with (which probably wouldn't be too hard to do).

nameom (nameom), Monday, 20 November 2006 22:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
OK, I'm officially starting the rolling teenpop 2007 thread, so post all further comments there.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 4 January 2007 02:42 (7 years ago) Permalink


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