funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

http://www.discogs.com/Bananarama-Tripping-On-Your-Love/release/464818

i'd love to be able to now announce B1 as a highly relevant big deal but alas it is cobblers.

while we're on the subject, v glad to hear marcus play 'touch her in the morning' again after a brief hiatus during this most recent set - it will never get the acclaim of a 'house girls' but nothing, i repeat nothing, brings the pure vibes of those first few melancholic piano keys lengthening over the end of a track, like nosferatu's shadow before he sinks his teeth in suddenly. and i love how sung male vocals seemingly have to be so maudlin like that in funky (even when they might be talking about sex same as anyone) - carnao, the drake remix, and this great recent "can't see my way back" one round the hour mark here. perhaps this and not the general americanism was why smoove kriminal's horace brown remix seemed to strike a false note somewhere, however good it was.

Can you describe the "Can't see my way back" tune more? It's jogging something in my memory but I'm not getting a fully-formed picture.

haha talking of which, it took a visit to dissensus before i realised tim was subtly fashioning a BANANARANUUM with all the fives praise - i like it! (and it's probably a lot better than bringing 'inflation' and melissa bell's daughter winning x-factor into it at any rate.)

the song is good too, although 1/ i reject any vocal tune of the year talk when farah 'kiss me' still lives, and 2/ i have tended to overlook its value in suspicion of its equal weight in what i perceive as the mildly lame 80s retro mistajam/timmy mallett kids tv presenter urban media culture a la swindle's 'no more' and stuff; the video and sense of general undue professionalism bear this out i feel. but maybe i should just lighten up instead.

"It's What You Do" feels like a potential crossover hit whereas "Kiss Me" is forever an underground anthem I suspect - also, straightforwardly ecstatic versus U&K narrative/persona/vocal tics - "Kiss Me" is almost too involving to be just a "vocal tune", though OTOH maybe I'm only saying that because "I Won't Lose" ("I Can't Lose"? Which is it?) builds on Farah's story so.

Re Bananaranuum - I'm imagining a DJ Naughty cover of "Cruel Summer" now.

Also, point of order: "It's What You Do" is a billion times better than "No More".

what, no

"it's what you do" is vg though, and a billion times better than "kiss me", though i'm not definite on the latter yet as a paltry two minutes in the middle of a mix is no way to judge a song. why are these songs not available.

I like "No More" a lot but it's like:

It's What You Do: 10/10
Kiss Me: 9.9/10
No More: 7/10

I'll let r|t|c explain himself but I suspect he's doing a roundabout dismissal of "No More" for its smartened up proper black UK pop qualities, which I think "It's What You Do" lacks on the whole except in the sense of a well-done video clip (really the diva is pretty superficial seeming and totally disinterested in being there let alone emoting - I love this!).

"Kiss Me" doesn't have this at all (it's positively erm "earthy") which elevates it to the top of the heap under this schema.

But it's only, um, tendentially reliable. Lest we forget MJ Cole's "Crazy Love" was actually one of the finest songs of the 2-step era, as good as (though not better than) the more schematically appropriate "Girls Like Us". And I think the same can be true of funky.

You'll probably hate me for saying this Lex but I suspect the charm of "Kiss Me" is most apparent in the way it seems to rise to the top of so many different mixes, radio sets etc, it's more satisfying the more (and the more contexts in which) you hear it.

Also, yes, lots of love for "Lost In Your House". On some emotional/allegiances/barracking level I'm all for Miss Fire/Van Kleef and Farah et. al.

Hey also what's that Greyman tune with the really emotive Booka Shade-ish synth chords in it? It was in the recent Petchy/Topsee set posted on Dissensus. Reminds me a bit of my great lost funky tune sampling Jagged Edge ("Rolling down the / lonely highway / asking God to / PLEASE FORGIVE ME!") that I have arbitrarily attributed to Target.

yeah "no more" is pretty "can imagine nadia suliman doing this with a live band at the jazz café", so what? that slightly upmarket/aspirational/classy aesthetic has always been present in funky. and it suits the song's wash-this-man-right-outta-my-hair theme.

"it's what you do" took quite a few listens to grow on me, but once it did it was really amazing.

oh, i saw petchy at wifey the other night, it was really good. i can't remember much of what he played beyond the obvious though.

"it's what you do" is vg though, and a billion times better than "kiss me", though i'm not definite on the latter yet as a paltry two minutes in the middle of a mix is no way to judge a song. why are these songs not available.

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:00 (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

oh goodie it's blueski vs 'in the morning' again.

re my being stitched up, as far as i was aware it's only just a slight perceived kinda self-consciousness about fives and 'no more's knockabout pop fun that i bridle at, and especially so when - in calling out vocal tune of the year here - it is, intentionally or not, implicitly pitted against 'kiss me' et al. i happily agree re 'kiss me's underground anthem contextualness limitations (as it were) in comparison but the terms of the original argument needed clarifying.

'no more' kind of strikes me as the opposite of aspirational btw; classy signifiers aside it seems altogether quite happy just where it is?

Kiss Me: 10/10
It's What You Do: 8/10
No More: 6/10

here's my own scores on the doors if it's any help.

all these tracks are knocking around on the internet in 320 btw - unfortunately my ineffable regard for the sacrosanct institution of copyright law prevents me from saying any further ;_;

Can you describe the "Can't see my way back" tune more?

oh it's not a massive deal or anything - strongly, tbh perhaps almost solely, contextual charm once again - but erm, listlessly sad mellow keys, "she's got me in emotion, she's got me in a trap, i'm drifting in an ocean, can't see my wayyy back", one-finger synth melody poked out on the chorus. it's round the hour mark on the 1st sept marcus set, sat in between two lively bangers naturally.

breach's 'fatherless' (&/or its remix) not long after that is pretty hot fire for whom i presume is a yupstep producer btw.

Breach's Fatherless is a beast. I don't think he's made dubstep before I could be wrong, he's called Ben Westbeech. He's a vocalist too and has some d'n'b to his name, pretty sure he'll make anything by the sounds of things. http://www.myspace.com/benwestbeech

oh is that him! blimey. yeah he was signed to gilles peterson's label wasn't he.

He was indeed, I need to catch up with what he's been doing really. He seems pretty damn talented. Looking forward to hearing more Breach too.

marcus (or a sometime recent recording of) playing that 'trinity hill' vocal again right now - MASSIVE MASSIVE TUNE i tell you

Apologies for misrepresenting you upthread r|t|c

i won't lose, i need to be happyyyy...

(mp3 is tagged simply 'i can't' however.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2amJuYljeY

this is kinda okay i think? you can almost pretend it's a bassline guy on a stroll.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXiKrGEvKu8

talking of which, very happy to finally id this and thus end its terrible reign of maddening false familiarity.

http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/403601-01.htm

also: noticed this out, x'ed my fingers, and yessir the dj naughty mix is track 3. shame the days of my spending 7 squid on a new 12 are long gone however, but er yknow, heads up etc.

marcus 07/09/2010
http://relay.exequo.org/rinsefm/podcast/MarcusNasty080910.mp3

1:51 D Malice - Gabryelle Refix (Marcus Special)
2:42 Undisputed - Sunglasses (? Remix)
4:12 J Labelz ft Naughty Natz - Touch Me
5:36 ... ?? [erm.... is this that new babyface jay, i forget]
6:16 Funkystepz ft Louise Williams - Set Me Free
8:38 Bassboy - Drip
10:05 ... "Can't See My Way Back"
11:47 Greymatter ft Deize Tigrona - Eu Fuomo (Altered Natives Remix)
14:08 Hardhouse Banton - Reign (Dumplin Remix)
15:26 Perempay & Dee ft Cleo Sol - Addicted
17:06 Mad One - Girls House Part W/E
19:06 Faith Evans - You Gets No Love (?? Remix)
22:07 Devine Collective - People Keep Dancing
23:06 Rudimental ft Adiyam & Shantie - Midnight Affair
24:30 Funkystepz - Fuller
25:58 ...?? [surely i know this]
29:08 Drake - Find Your Love (Drew Austin Remix)
31:09 ...?? [fingaprint?]
33:24 Nycole Valentine - Flatline (Dumplin Remix)
35:25 Money Anderson - Funktion
40:03 Funk Butcher ft Shea Soul - Pull Me Close
42:34 ...??
44:14 ...?? [argh, def used to know this]
46:07 [they said who this was the other week] - Badman Riddim
48:05 Bassboy ft Marcus Nasty - Shut Up
52:27 Funky Twinz ft Angel J - Smile
55:06 LR Groove - Black Up
56:04 ...?? [ummm ... another old chestnut]
58:28 Lil Silva - Night Skanker
60:09 Eastwood ft VeVe - Right There
63:36 ...??
65:30 ...??
67:17 Kyla - Don't Play With My Heart (Roska Remix)
70:46 We No Speak Americano (Refix)
74:28 Smoove Kriminal - Stop That
75:55 Screama ft Farah - I Can't Lose
77:50 Nastee Boi - Funk Juice
79:24 Don Haffer ft Wayne McNeish - I Apologise
80:58 Breach - Fatherless (Doc Daneeka Remix)
85:02 Tim Deluxe - It Just Won't Do (?? Funky Remix)
87:28 Eastwood - Soft Touch
91:06 Havana Cultura - Chekere (Seiji Rerub)
92:57 Devine Collective - Touch Her In The Morning
94:42 ...??
96:15 Lewi White? - Sound Of The Future
97:45 Mad One? - Creeper (Refix)
99:15 ...??
100:03 ...??
101:22 Greyman - XZero
102:58 Bassboy - Stamp
106:16 ...??
107:43 ...?? [like this one a lot]
109:51 ...?? [couple mixed up here i think]
111:05 Screama ft Farah - Kiss Me
113:24 SMI - 60 Hertz
114:37 Modjo - Lady (Spyro Refix)

i am an idle man

all these tracks are knocking around on the internet in 320 btw - unfortunately my ineffable regard for the sacrosanct institution of copyright law prevents me from saying any further ;_;

Given that none of them are commercially available I probably wouldn't bitchslap you too hard for posting them.

talking of which, very happy to finally id this and thus end its terrible reign of maddening false familiarity.

Of course this is Naughty Raver! Love this tune so much, such a fabulous vocal. Reminds me of the 2-step remix of 702's "You Don't Know".

also: noticed this out, x'ed my fingers, and yessir the dj naughty mix is track 3. shame the days of my spending 7 squid on a new 12 are long gone however, but er yknow, heads up etc.

Missed this. Exciting news, and I'm largely pleased just that I can confirm this is a 2010 tune as it'd be top 5 of the year for me. Hoping for a digital release.

tim (or anyone) have you listened to that marcus set yet, i wanna finish off this tracklisting! a couple of the missing ones are really obvi, it's doing my nut.

2:42 is the dumplin mix of 'sunglasses' and
5:36 was indeed 'jungle drums' by babyface jay. btw:

Hey also what's that Greyman tune with the really emotive Booka Shade-ish synth chords in it? It was in the recent Petchy/Topsee set posted on Dissensus.

― Tim F, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 16:12 (5 days ago) Bookmark

'funk the groove': http://www.uk-funky.com/ukfunky_previews_268.htm

I'm in France! Can't listen to any new sets until I get back in a few weeks, hopefully it'll still be up...

i am going 2 this tomorrow and really looking fwd to it:

THIS, tomorrow:

http://drumzofthesouth.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/nymphposter2_pink_bok-copy-1.jpg?w=400&h=567

terrific interview w/cora + a+ banging mix at http://drumzofthesouth.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/nymphsextape/

Who is Lady Rocha?

all i can say is wrong fukkin thread

What will make it different from the others?

Nymphypnotik will take place in a West African-owned night club called Jubilee on 1 Peckham High Street, SE15 5EB. It is the first time Jubilee have opened their doors to this sort of event, and we feel very lucky to be involved in such an establishment, one that provides a kind of hub for the mostly immigrant locals in the area. Part of the ‘trax without borders’ philosophy feeds in to clientele too. No frills, no pretense, an element of risk sure but the rewards will be ten-fold.

all i can say is wrong fukkin thread

not until you actually retitle it "listening to funky house on the radio"

I know we are required by law to go through this tedious to and fro every time Lex hypes some Night Slugs-related thing but any definition of funky that excludes Altered Natives is a bit off.

how about "global bass ruminants, let me forget you already have a thread for your stuff"

stop trolling

it's a great thing about funky that it can find and make great use of the odd track from bok bok or altered natives or whoever but that doesnt mean everything is suddenly the same thing. what we discuss on these radio sets is a distinction worth fighting for

in what world is lady rocha NOT that? http://djs.totalkiss.com/2010/07/lady-rocha-190710/

fine but one swallow does not a summer make tho alie

any definition of funky that excludes Altered Natives is a bit off.

Altered Natives are funky in the same sense that Armand Van Helden was speed garage (give a little geographical proximity, take a little of Armand's status as originator), I think, in the sense of tuff NY garage:speed garage::broken beat:funky.

An average dj set from Danny Native contains almost zero funky - in fact basically zero if you don't count his own funky crossover tunes.

Nothing wrong with the above of course, and I think Altered Natives are a pretty interesting outfit, though inconsistent (so prolific it's inevitable I guess).

Obv that Greymatter remix is totally massive.

Download from http://www.clubsignal.com/mix9.php

01. SIGNAL October 28th / Marcus Nasty / Ranking / Mz Bratt / Cuppcake
02. Mz. Bratt – Selecta
03. Mz. Bratt – Selecta (Greenmoney's Brukussive Mix)
04. Greenmoney ft. Mz. Bratt – Who's Greenmoney?
05. Suncycle ft. Tony Matterhorn – Ride It (Smutlee Blend)
06. Vato Gonzalez – Badman Riddim
07. Shani Cuppcake – Say Yes
08. Katy B – Katy On A Mission (Roska Remix)
09. DJ MA1 – High Definition
10. Katy B – Louder
11. Lil' Silva – Night Skanker
12. Ramzee – Who's That Lightee?
13. Platnum – Signals (Champion's Gassed Up Mix)
14. Dubbel Dutch – Throwback
15. Sophia Romain – I Can't Sleep
16. Funky Twinz ft. Angel J – Smile
17. Mz. Bratt ft. Sadie Ama – I Like You
18. Shani Cuppcake – Take It Low
19. Andriah – Love Me Not (Naughty Raver Mix)
20. Meleka – Miss Me
21. Perempay 'N' Dee ft. Cleo Sol – Addicted (Main Mix)
22. Zinc – Nexx
23. Eastwood – Soft Touch
24. Mz. Bratt – Who Do You Think You Are? (Original Radio Edit)
25. TS7 & TJ Lyrics – What's Your Shout
26. TS7 & TJ Lyrics ft. Slick Don – What's Your Shout (Remix)
27. Dirty Money ft. Skepta – Hello Good Morning (Grime Remix)
28. Busta Rhymes ft. Mz. Bratt – Hustler's Anthem (Terror Danjah Remix)
29. Skepta ft. Preeya Kalidas – Cross My Heart
30. Princess Nyah – Take Control (Radio Edit)
31. Champion – 1994
32. KOF ft. Wiley & Chelcee Grimes – Fire It Up (FunkyStepz Vocal Mix)
33. Screama – Funky Mode
34. Rian Peters ft. Wiley – Getaway (The Fives Mix)
35. Monique Parris – My Baby (Digital Dubstar Mix)
36. Ve Ve – Right There
37. Pioneer & Supa D – Congo Natty

tim (or anyone) have you listened to that marcus set yet, i wanna finish off this tracklisting! a couple of the missing ones are really obvi, it's doing my nut.

Okay finally got this set, it´s massive!

Unfortunately I can´t identify any of your missing ones. Is 99:15 Supa D´s "Congo Natty" by any chance? It actually sounds either like Dumplin or Scotty D.

no 'congo natty' is a pretty inessential roska-esque tribal set builder tune wot i always forget how it goes exactly. on the plus side though i didn't realise that's all the same tune between 'creeper' and 'xzero' so haha, that's one down at least.

is 25' champion perhaps...? grrr i feel it has literally been around forever.

64 is pretty crazy huh - what a rush!

btw someone at rinse must have got yr holiday memo cos they just repeated that set again this week.

https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/home/detail/1/beatport#app=5251&a486-index=3

^ ill blu mix on this could be big

ah ok i see that link doesnt work - it's the ill blu mix of dj sava & raluka's 'i like the trumpet'. was only going by clips but i was imagining a 'bongo jam' x 'americano' popularity perhaps

YEAH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bry6gxGJVnY

(only thing is the video starts right on the drop there, but YEAH)

Loving it so much. The Funkystepz/Louise Williams team-up is kinda unbeatable, they should put out this and "Lovers" as a double A-side.

according to maxsin recently they've now added 'whispers' to that sounds of malibu ep they were talking about in june. (so: sweet love / trinity hill / whispers / leave with you / malibu). shouldve chucked 'fuller' on there as well really.

that double a-side would be awesome though yeah. 'lovers' remaining relatively unknown even in funky's small sphere is 4ever baffling.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/80633565a5e76770/

here's a salient rip i made from last week's ill blu show - that trumpet tune and then a wicked new one called 'dirty monkey' that's like a mutant cross between 'meltdown' and the kelis 'acapella' beat - crazy good

Hardhouse Banton FABRICLIVE Promo Mix