Best song on Journey Greatest Hits

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Would Matt II consider revising the poll to encompass the Essential Journey? I would like to vote for "Anytime."

I shoulda! I chose Greatest Hits because, well, I own it. I was thinking of a best album poll, but Journey are about the songs really.

Matt #2, Monday, 6 August 2007 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link

separate ways is the sleeper hit of this album.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Monday, 6 August 2007 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Yikes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fjqo7NMHO0

Matt #2, Monday, 6 August 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

"Separate Ways" is a great song and it gets my vote. Might be the greatest gap between song quality and video quality ever. (OK Go's "Here It Goes Again" is a contender for the opposite reason.) I like all 12 songs I know from this album though. "Wheel In the Sky" and "Any Way You Want It" are close.

Sundar, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, not as much a DSB landslide as I would've predicted, so far. But it's still early, I guess.

I go with "Wheel In The Sky", with "Separate Ways" a close #2.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

I was about to vote for "More Than a Feeling". But then, found out, oops, this is another band. :)

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir, dude, Journey is WAY up your street. Not very euro-friendly, tho, as corporate rock (Journey, Boston, Styx, Kansas, Foreigner, Loverboy, REO Speedwagon) never had much of a foothold outside of North America…or at least that is my understanding…

Veronica Moser, Tuesday, 7 August 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, they were masters of melodic pop songcraft and flawless playing/singing.

If there's anything I love about upstate NY, it's the ubiquitous love for this music.

Was "Escape" not released as a single or was it just not big enough of a hit?

Sundar, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 13:26 (sixteen years ago) link

"Separate Ways" by a country mile.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 13:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

kinda bummed "stone in love" isn't on this

This is exactly why I never bought Journey Greatest Hits.

"Stone in Love" - Classic or Greatest 4:25 In The History Of The Bay Area?

Everything else is a race for second place, which I shall bestow upon "Wheel In the Sky," though "Separate Ways," "Lights," "Don't Stop Believin'" and the magically cheesetastic "Faithfully" (oh god the drums! the drums!) are all legit contenders.

btw, major props to Alex in NYC for consistency!

Not my favorite of theirs (which, if pressed, would invariably be "Separate Ways").
-- Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, July 6, 2005 5:02 PM (2 years ago)

rogermexico., Wednesday, 8 August 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread needs this post.

'good' prog = basement musicians overextending themselves, 'bad' prog = supersessioneers playing stuff for stadiums. 'bad' prog is the stuff people like and critics cannot get their heads around however 'playful' they're being. Or to put it another way, if you can't get your head around Journey's "Stone in Love" then you're still outside looking in. "Stone in Love", holy fuck! The guy plays a DIFFERENT FILL on every fuckin' bar, the ending is in like 11/8 time, there's modal inversions and stacked harmonies and it's STILL A FUCKIN' STADIUM ROCK SONG. Plus it makes me play 'air drums' uncontrollably. Anybody can appreciate Greenslade and PFM from arm's length cuz they fulfill the categorical imperative but "SIL" appeals to people who don't know why they like it as well as being the most complicated fuckin' song I've ever heard and thus is off limits to anybody still constrained by punk orthodoxy which is really utilitarianism with safety pins! To borrow a phrase from Fritz Wollner (where the fuck is he these days? Come back!), Jon Anderson = Che, Steve Perry = Castro, whoever you (want to?) 'identify' with more determines whether you actually 'get' prog or if you're just 'playing' at it! (Contrary to received opinion 'prog' is NOT about the 'playing' [instro-spaking], otherwise they'd 'jam' more)
-- dave q, Monday, November 3, 2003 2:47 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

(so if you were to play Journey to a critic who's decided to 'redeem prog' he might say a) "well it doesn't sound all that complicated to me" or b) "It's cornier than any pop I've ever heard", ie (a) = 'i don't actually understand music technique'(b) = "I'm against corny Pavlovian pop", both of which postions are tenable but how is it possible to believe both of them at the same time!) (unless you do a lateral move into sociology ie "Santana and the Airplane devolved into THIS!?" But that should make everybody happy cuz Journey = lysergic totalitarianism REALISED!) (Fuck do I miss the Bay Area, the 'city they built on rock and roll'!)
-- dave q, Monday, November 3, 2003 3:02 AM (3 years ago)

rogermexico., Wednesday, 8 August 2007 23:49 (sixteen years ago) link

And this one...

Re "Don't Stop Believin'" - I think the 'crescendo' effect comes from all the ingenious interlocking parts. The bass figure is originally played with the left hand on the piano intro, then the bass gtr plays it in the first bit of the song, while the guitar is playing the same chords as the piano intro the solo, and then the vocal chorus at the end restates the theme from the guitar solo while the gtr and bass are now doubling that original intro! It all comes together! And when Journey do it you don't even notice the command of 'classical' structure, compare it to a similar-contemporaneous distillation/compression move like Rush "New World Man" which sounds like enthusiastic amateurism in comparison!

fuck, this thread just needs dave q

...does he have batsignal or something?

rogermexico., Wednesday, 8 August 2007 23:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Geir, dude, Journey is WAY up your street.

Nope. Way too typically American.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 9 August 2007 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Foreigner were huge here. Maybe not to the same extent as in the US, but they had several big European hits too, "Waiting (For a Girl Like You)" and "I Want To Know What Love Is" being the biggest. Also, they weren't too bad until the latter plague of a song destroyed their reputation forever.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 9 August 2007 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

why does this thread seem like so much fun? i'm sorry i can't contribute anything.

Surmounter, Thursday, 9 August 2007 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

All those Raised on Radio singles are underrated. I choose "I'll Be Alright Without You."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 9 August 2007 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"Don't Stop Believing" is to "New World Man" as jai alai is to a parking lot game of hackysack. There are motifs getting passed around the arrangement all over the place (kind of an Ornette-ish thing, but obviously with a much different effect) but there is such a difference in how fast the musicians are thinking. With Journey (or Ornette), the thinking is so fast you can't notice it. With Rush, the thinking is just slow enough that a thirteen year old kid who just got his first guitar is going to be all over it. Amateurs can (and do) mangle, replicate, and/or exceed Rush all day, but amateurs could not even attempt something like "Stone In Love", much less DSB. I miss Dave Q.

theboyqueen, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

All those Raised on Radio singles are underrated. I choose "I'll Be Alright Without You."

So OTM! ROR had even more gloss than Journey's earlier discs, and it sounded great. I think it was their last disc with Steve Perry, right?

This thread makes me (slightly) less ashamed to be a Journey fan!

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:15 (sixteen years ago) link

"Wheel In The Sky" is the only song I can stand on that album.

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:22 (sixteen years ago) link

You can argue with the intent, but this is a rock band at the height of its powers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx2BQ3GEfRA&mode=related&search=

theboyqueen, Thursday, 9 August 2007 03:32 (sixteen years ago) link

we've got armadillos in our trousers

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2007 05:58 (sixteen years ago) link

the absence of "stone in love" bums me out too -- my favorite journey song by a mile -- but i went with "who's crying now" because i like those neon space-age ballads.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 9 August 2007 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Lovin Touchin Squeezin

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 August 2007 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 9 August 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Onion rings all round

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 9 August 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

hahahahah

Surmounter, Friday, 10 August 2007 01:49 (sixteen years ago) link

See, that comparison upthread is interesting but I'm not sure that the arrangement tricks in DSB are really that much more subtle than in "New World Man". Are you sure it's not just that you like it better? (e.g. I think it's pretty obvious that the distorted guitar takes over the piano figure when it comes in.) And who replicated and exceeded Rush? Triumph?? Dream Theatre?? I kind of have to question in what sense "Stone In Love" is the most complicated song dave q ever heard as well! I love both songs though.

Sundar, Saturday, 11 August 2007 02:38 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

"Faithfully" was played on Delilah tonight, I really felt it

cupcake 24/7 (Tape Store), Sunday, 18 April 2010 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I keep thinking about how I want to poll the Journey singles without "Believin'" the same way I polled the R. Kelly singles without "Ignition"

a hoy hoy young mess (some dude), Sunday, 18 April 2010 06:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I will never understand why people like "Don't Stop Believin."

billstevejim, Sunday, 18 April 2010 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

six years pass...

TWO FUCKING HEARTS

calstars, Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link

I've been listening to "Be Good to Yourself" a lot over the past few weeks because, for as much as it's basically a musical "Hang In There" kitten poster, it does lift my mood.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link

Separate Ways has started to become the new DSB to me in terms of overplay (cos it's done a lot at the karaoke bar by this uber-mega rock tenor friend of mine).

I really like "Who's Crying Now", especially Steve's vocal, but the atmosphere is so "rainy evening" and that piano is fantastic.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 25 August 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

now THIS is the core, the heart music

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Journey’s Greatest Hits has now been on the Billboard Album Charts for 12 full years, or 624 weeks. pic.twitter.com/Npnmmb8c9l

— Eric Alper 🎧 (@ThatEricAlper) July 19, 2020

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 July 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

nowadays I would vote for "Who's Crying Now"

trapped out the barndo (crüt), Sunday, 19 July 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

I'd probably vote for "Any Way You Want It". I like Journey but this phenomenon is curious to me. This compilation was released in 1988. "Don't Stop Believin'", a 1981 song which people were already hearing on classic rock stations, although maybe not more than "Lights" or "Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'", and certainly not more than "More Than a Feeling", was used in a popular TV episode, and everyone suddenly decided that it was a universally beloved anthem, to the point that sales of this compilation was revived and it remained a big seller for over a decade?

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

*were

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

“lights” all the way

brimstead, Sunday, 19 July 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

“who’s crying now” is great

brimstead, Sunday, 19 July 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link

i think "faithfully" is the only journey song i can stand anymore

dyl, Monday, 20 July 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link

totally "Who's Crying Now?" or "Send Her My Love"

if I hear "Don't Stop Believing" anymore I'm destroying a Buick dealership

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

"Who's Crying Now" evokes rain beating against a window pane while some dude finds an item his now ex left behind in his apartment and he starts losing it.

i have a lot of warm memories of hearing this tune play when riding in the folks' Oldsmobile

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

Journey’s GH has been on the Billboard 200 chart for 666 weeks—the closest they’ve ever come to Metal

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 7 May 2021 01:49 (two years ago) link


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