Rolling Teenpop 2006 Thread

(Of course I can't let a discussion of teen TV go by).

Miley's southern accent on the show comes and goes. She talks like she has a retainer in her mouth. It's weird. But her acting has markedly improved over time.

Hannah Montana IS a ripoff of Lizzie (not just a group of friends, but one girl friend and one guy friend + one brother, etc, etc). Of course, just about every Diz/Nick show post Lizzie is the same. Actually Phil of the Future followed more in the vein of Even Stevens. Disney Channel is hardly noted for being original. I've written way more about HM on my blog, so I'm just gonna stop here.

I think Hannah has about a 50% success ratio (and yeah, the only obvious accent is in the theme song, but it was first, hence the lasting impression despite her getting progressively "Sk8er Boi"-by-way-of-Hilary, which means ditching the accent...I mean, Hilary's from Houston fer cryin' out loud).

But the reason it's huge, as has been said a couple of times, is that Disney has given it a major media blitz through its own outlets, which is enough -- almost without any outside recognition at all -- to make a dent on the Billboard charts. (Disney kids wouldn't have a WTF reaction to "Best of Both Worlds," because they were introduced to it as the theme song to the show; it simply outlines the premise). Disney Channel plays Hannah/Aly&AJ/Vanessa Hudgens on alternating commercial breaks, and there's some major deck-stacking going on with Radio Disney's "democratic" voting system. I.e., in any given month, three out of four (if not four out of four) artists introduced into rotation (via the "Music Mailbag") are from Hollywood. I think Cheetah Girls have had about four new singles introduced in a little under two months.

Which isn't to say none of the music's any good (some of it is great), but at some level the popularity of it has little to do with how good it actually is.

So was Lizzie a ripoff of Clarrisa Explains It All in the first place (except for, you know, the songs part) (and the part about Clarissa being sort of a weirdo) (among other stuff?) (actually i'm not even sure the girlpal + guypal + brother applies.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxQYV9Uo5mw

Stabbing Westward shout-out to their favorite brands. Really grown on me.

Lizzie and Clarissa aren't great comparisons, but they are OK. Did Clarissa have a girl friend? I don't recall. Lizzie was much more of an everygirl with very simple and every day plots. Like for example not wanting to spend time with parents, doing badly on a test, being made fun of by popular girls, etc., etc. Whereas Clarissa seems much wackier. I can't really think of a touchstone that Lizzie drew off of enough to call it a "rip-off". At least not among tv shows. It's kind of like a younger and tv version of a Hughes movie though. Whereas Hannah (which I do like by the way) rips off both Lizzie AND The Famous Jett Jackson.

That's So Raven, Unfabulous, Naturally Sadie, Read It and Weep.

May not seem like much, but well more than half of the shows Diz has developed since, plus a Nick show that came out right after Lizzie broke out, plus their most recent hit original movie. The formula seems to work for them.

I went to the EMAs last night because Hoot was nominated for "Best Feature with an Environmentally Conscious Plot With Cute Butts"

or something like that. I don't remember. They gave out free organic chocolate and Real Food Daily catered and thats all that matters in life so everything else is seemingly flat.

ANYCRAP.
we lost to Ice Age.

But Sara was there and won for "Darcy's Wild Life" but also lost at the same time with her H20 commercial (Feel free to bring up the part where she says "ITS NOT A QUANTITY, ITS ABOUT ACCESS!"). People dropped their awards and broke them. Many remarks were made that were, in fact, sexual. And the Wonder Pets sang a song about saving a tree for what seemed like 20 minutes (But it was the best 20 minutes of my life).

Best Group Made of Brothers / Sisters
Jonas Brothers
Aly & AJ
B5
Everlife

Best Song To Listen To While Getting Ready For School
Rush - Aly & AJ
Start Of Something New - Troy & Gabriella
Unwritten - Natasha Bedingfield
I Got Nerve - Miley Cyrus

Best Artist Or Song Your Teacher Likes
Crazy - Gnarls Barkley
Too Little Too Late - JoJo
Gonna Make U Sweat - C & C Music Factory
So Sick - Ne-Yo

(What was their criteria for choosing the "Teacher Likes" category?)Can't seem to figure out how to vote for the BONUS "Best Ringtone" category. Also, there should be a write-in option.

JT's "My Love" holds at #1 for the third week. "Fergalicious" stays at number 3, Beyonce's "Irreplaceable" jumps to number 4. Those two songs seem to be JT's biggest competitor for next week. "Irreplaceable" has been the Biggest Airplay Gainer 2 weeks in a row. Bowling For Soup's "High School Never Ends" debuts at number 97. Radio Diz is ahead of the curve yet again. I like it better than "1985" for what it's worth, though they are obviously extremely similar songs.

On the album chart, Hannah Montana falls to 5th, but still sold 136,000 copies, which is a very strong week. That would be enough to top the charts in some of the slow summer weeks. Now 23 debuts at the top of the charts.

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Clips from three songs to appear on the upcoming album fromKatharine McPhee posted to one of her fansites. Kat was, despite her horrible inconsistency, my favorite of the contestants on American Idol 5. She was always classy and old-timey jazzy/bluesy on the show and so I had assumed they were going to go in that direction for the album. But it's very R&B-ish. "Open Toes" is pretty much standard fare current uptempo R&B, but pretty good. "Over It" is a ripoff of JoJo, but I again think it's a good song. "Each Other" is a white R&B ballad, kind of boring. Album could be successful or could be a huge flop, I'm not really sure at this point.

KDIS-AM
Los Angeles - 1110 AM (Radio Disney)
LW: Nov 4 - Nov 10 TW: Nov 11 - Nov 17 Updated: Sat Nov 18 2:18 PM PST

lw TW Artist Title spinsTW spinslw +/- Reach/Mill
2 1 HANNAH MONTANA If We Were A Movie 77 77 0 0.3417
4 2 VANESSA HUDGENS Come Back To Me 75 74 1 0.3349
1 3 ASHLEY TISDALE Kiss The Girl 75 78 -3 0.3163
3 4 JESSE MCCARTNEY Right Where You Want Me 74 75 -1 0.3155
5 5 JONAS BROTHERS Year 3000 73 73 0 0.3134
10 6 JONAS BROTHERS Poor Unfortunate Soul 72 32 40 0.299
7 7 HANNAH MONTANA I've Got Nerve 72 72 0 0.2963
6 8 HANNAH MONTANA Best Of Both Worlds 68 73 -5 0.2854
13 9 B5 Keep Your Head In The Game 33 30 3 0.1353
14 10 BOWLING FOR SOUP 1985 33 30 3 0.1481
24 11 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD Unwritten 32 26 6 0.1346
18 12 RIHANNA SOS 32 30 2 0.1359
19 13 ALY & A.J. Chemicals React 31 29 2 0.1284
9 14 JOJO Too Little Too Late 31 34 -3 0.1378
17 15 RIHANNA Pon De Replay 31 30 1 0.1267
23 16 CHEETAH GIRLS The Party's Just Begun 30 28 2 0.1273
22 17 CHEETAH GIRLS Amigas Cheetahs 29 28 1 0.1368
34 18 CHEETAH GIRLS Route 66 29 17 12 0.1265
8 19 HANNAH MONTANA Who Said 29 72 -43 0.1111
20 20 CHEETAH GIRLS Step Up 28 29 -1 0.1143
15 21 CHEETAH GIRLS Strut 28 30 -2 0.1232
16 22 HAYLIE DUFF Material Girl 28 30 -2 0.1232
21 23 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL We're All In This Together 28 29 -1 0.1156
29 24 DANIEL POWTER Bad Day 28 24 4 0.1263
12 25 ALY & A.J. Rush 27 30 -3 0.1295
28 26 CRAZY FROG Axel F 27 24 3 0.1069
96 27 ALY & A.J. Greatest Time Of Year 26 1 25 0.1244
11 28 CHRIS BROWN Yo (Excuse Me Miss) 26 31 -5 0.0942
27 29 BOWLING FOR SOUP High School Never Ends 24 25 -1 0.1074
30 30 CRAZY FROG We Are The Champions 22 23 -1 0.0943
25 31 EVERLIFE Find Yourself In You 22 26 -4 0.0833
32 32 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL Breaking Free 18 18 0 0.0833
31 33 BELINDA Why Wait 17 20 -3 0.0605
36 34 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL Start Of Something New 15 13 2 0.052
35 35 EVERLIFE Look Through My Eyes 14 17 -3 0.0591
-- 36 SMASH MOUTH So Insane 13 0 13 0.073
-- 37 SMASH MOUTH The Crawl 9 0 9 0.0434
37 38 B5 Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad Wolf 7 8 -1 0.0553
47 39 BLACK EYED PEAS Let's Get It Started 7 5 2 0.03
63 40 KELLY CLARKSON Walk Away 6 4 2 0.016
65 41 HANNAH MONTANA Pumpin' Up The Party 6 4 2 0.0288
54 42 NELLY Over And Over (f/Tim McGraw) 6 5 1 0.0178
67 43 SIMPLE PLAN Shut Up 6 4 2 0.0204
43 44 ASHLEE SIMPSON Boyfriend 6 6 0 0.0226
56 45 ASHLEE SIMPSON Pieces Of Me 6 5 1 0.0244
69 46 RAVEN SYMONE Backflip 6 4 2 0.0173
58 47 WEEZER Beverly Hills 6 5 1 0.0111
45 48 B5 Dance For You 5 5 0 0.0148
60 49 B5 U Got Me 5 4 1 0.0135
48 50 BOWLING FOR SOUP Almost 5 5 0 0.0219

This is the Radio Disney Top 30 as posted on its site today, though they played the list on-air yesterday morning, so I'm guessing the week runs either to the 17th or the 18th. I'm not sure how they compile the Top 30, but requests must have a lot to do with it. I've bolded anything that's at least 10 places lower than the airplay standings, italicized anything that's 10 places higher.

For November 20, 2006

1 2 Hannah Montana "If We Were a Movie"
2 1 Ashley Tisdale "Kiss the Girl"
3 8 Hannah Montana "Best of Both Worlds"
4 3 Vanessa Hudgens "Come Back to Me"
5 9 Jonas Brothers "Year 3000"
6 5 Hannah Montana "I Got Nerve"
7 7 Jesse McCartney "Right Where You Want Me"
8 4 Mr C The Slide Man "Cha Cha Slide"
9 12 Hannah Montana "Who Said"
10 20 Jesse McCartney "Beautiful Soul"
11 6 Jonas Brothers "Poor Unfortunate Souls"
12 13 Crazy Frog "Crazy Frog (Axel F)"
13 10 JoJo "Too Little, Too Late"
14 -- Cheetah Girls "Cinderella"
15 15 Hannah Montana "Pumpin' Up the Party"
16 -- Jonas Brothers "Mandy"
17 11 Bowling For Soup "1985"
18 28 Hampton the Hampster "Hampsterdance Song"
19 21 High School Musical Cast "We're All In This Together"
20 24 Cheetah Girls "Amigas Cheetahs"
21 16 Aly and AJ "Rush"
22 26 Akon "Lonely"
23 debut Hilary Duff "Material Girl"
24 27 Aly and AJ "Chemicals React"
25 -- B5 "Get'cha Head In The Game"
26 18 Troy and Gabriella "Breaking Free"
27 23 Rihanna "S.O.S."
28 19 B5 "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf"
29 25 Cheetah Girls "The Party's Just Begun"
30 17 Cheetah Girls "Step Up"

I was assuming that most of the bold would be Disney product and most of the italics would be non-Disney. The numbers I get for BOLD are Disney 4, non-Disney 1. The numbers I get for italics are Disney 4, non-Disney 5. This is not as strong a result as I'd expected, esp. since I'm guessing that the non-Disney "Cha Cha Slide" is getting uncounted airplay. Also, notice some non-Disney product that's getting airplay but not making the site list (Tashbed, Powter). But then again, "Strut" and "Route 66" are Disney product that's in the Top 30 in airplay but isn't making the Disney chart. Basically, the Cheetahs are getting more airplay than requests, and that's the difference, if my assumption is correct about how they compile the site's Top 30 (but notice that "Cinderella" is an exception, getting more requests than airplay).

(Um, are the Hilary and Haylie versions of "Material Girl" different recordings, or is that a mistake?)

Thanks for posting both lists, I checked both today and didn't see huge discrepancies, but the Cheetah Girls gap suggests that the online votes aren't tampered with (which probably wouldn't be too hard to do).