"Please Understand. We don't want no trouble, we just want the right to be different. That's all." PULP - D.I.F.F.E.R.E.N.T.C.L.A.S.S poll

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there's a hint that the rage and sneering he/the narrator wells up with is unpleasant and perhaps unearned

i think it's not so much the suggestion that the rage & sneering are unearned, but that they're sort of misdirected at this basically harmless/guileless rich girl, simply for being who she is. agree that the song builds to this ecstasy of self-righteous fury and that it effectively invites us to share & revel in that. also that in its terrible intensity it begins to subvert itself, making us think about the anger's underlying sources and why it's choosing this particular target for its expression. how much of that is intentional and what level of authorial distance is intended are left completely unclear, which adds to the song's power, imo.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link

common people, btw

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:14 (thirteen years ago) link

common people, woyeh

Mark G, Friday, 3 September 2010 10:16 (thirteen years ago) link

The class war aspects were the parts I most enjoyed, or was most energised by. "Take your Year in Provence and shove it up your asssss". I can relate.

like an ant to a crumb (DavidM), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:20 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, and what happened next? (wrt Jarvis I mean)

Mark G, Friday, 3 September 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Always struck me as weird that he pronounced it "ass" (oh and when I said upthread that there wasn't much class talk on the album outside of 'CP' I forgot about this verse)

great British wasteman = u (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:29 (thirteen years ago) link

sort of torn between feelingcalledlove and something changed. some sweet chord changes in the latter, and a temporal conundrum in the spirit of dylan

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 3 September 2010 10:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Underwear for its massive chorus and vintage Bowie stylings.

Davek (davek_00), Friday, 3 September 2010 10:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Listening to this album for the first time in 10 years as a result of this and related threads.

We Love Life > His 'n Hers > This is Hardcore > Different Class (challopsy I know)

Of this record, "I Spy", followed closely by "F.E.E... etc.

Neil S, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Underwear for me, I think.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Friday, 3 September 2010 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Another interesting thing about this album: possibly (and correct me if I'm wrong, which I probably am) the first creative use of the jewel case CD format, with the postcards and the artwork that was explicitly designed to suit CDs. Not surprising considering the band's background, but well realised nevertheless.

Also "take your year in Provence and shove it up your arse", what a lyric.

Neil S, Friday, 3 September 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

And another thing: the handbag house remix of "Disco 2000" is way better than the original version.

Neil S, Friday, 3 September 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't checked ILM in a few days but I've had "Disco 2000" in my head all day. Now, here I am, there's this poll and I'm voting for "I Spy".

kate78, Friday, 3 September 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Underwear. Should've been a single.

paulhw, Friday, 3 September 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link

the sleeve design worked even better on the LP, what with the frame and all

Teddybears.SHTML (sic), Saturday, 4 September 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link

We Love Life > His 'n Hers > This is Hardcore > Different Class (challopsy I know)

challotm

iatee, Saturday, 4 September 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Wasn't Experimental Jet Set Trash No Star released before Different Class?

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Saturday, 4 September 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link

yes

i am legernd (history mayne), Saturday, 4 September 2010 13:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 5 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i was not able to listen to this, so i'm voting for "Disco 2000" because of Deborah.

Bee OK, Monday, 6 September 2010 07:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Gonna go down into my grave and turn into dirt loving This is Hardcore. Every chorus on that record is a train. Sorry aer0.

This record is still kind of impossible to pin to one song. Going with the immediate intentions of my gut: "Underwear." Creepy, sad, Pulp.

Brad Nelson (BradNelson), Monday, 6 September 2010 07:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 6 September 2010 23:01 (thirteen years ago) link

I forgot how lovely "Something Changed" is.

Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 September 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link

wow live bed show woulda been top 4 or 5 i'd have thought maybe. I Spy is amazing innit though?

And here it is conducted by Anne Dudley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxdgvpC3v0g

piscesx, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link

"I Spy" is probably my least favorite track, although this album is really all killer no filler

some dude, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Your name is Deborah (Deborah), oh it never suited cha

Moka, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

many xpost

in the context of an album about aging rather awkwardly into your thirties and maybe out of some of your youthful romantic notions, the line "what do you do for an encore" is kind of a killer. unless i'm massively misreading things here (which i am not ruling out).

like a musical album. made by a band. (fucking in the streets), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link

This album gets the "all the tracks got voted" medallion.

Mark G, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 06:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Little story being told there.
'I spy, something changed - underwear. F.E.E.L.I.N.G.C.A.L.L.E.D.L.O.V.E!'

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 06:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"Something Changed" is a beautiful keeper and a lot of the rest of this alb is nerd revenge fantasies wrecked by nerd being in power

Hongro Horace (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 10:11 (thirteen years ago) link


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