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Having taken an actual journalism class, one ought to know that it is expected that the NYT is better than that. Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

I do think your notion that bias is acceptable in the NYT is, uh, unintelligent. Sorry. Newspapers and their power ought to be taken to task.

By the way I am not intimidated by you and you are forcing me to write too much on this thread. It is sad you don't respect your own readership by explaining your own curious views.

x-post to I am legend, this is not clear, the author writes as if he is objective.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure if ur trolling or not

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

maybe eat an apple, go for a walk. i dunno what timezone you're in.

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I would assume that someone who cares enough to defend their view with complete sentences isn't trolling.

Of course I am not trolling, I have an opinion I care about and have thought about.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

i for one thank my lucky stars that someone has the courage to take the newspapers to task

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

man this mahnola dargis review is totally biased

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, sarcasm is so respectful. You identify with and defend the NYT without feeling you have to write more than a sentence. That makes you a bully.

Also, when are you going to write a thoughtful remark. You make another insinuation, for someone who loves the NYT so much you sure are thoughtless. I don't "think highly of myself" as having "courage", do you always come to message boards with a chip on your shoulder.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean, you do your own opinion a disservice when you refuse to defend your own reaction or engage people like a human being. Why then should I find you convincing. Your style is little better than a high school bully.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:32 (thirteen years ago) link

this is n/l

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

where did u come from

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:33 (thirteen years ago) link

umm, if you feel you're being bullied, i seriously envy how little you know about being bullied

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link

is us steel pitchfork reviews reviewsbro?

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:35 (thirteen years ago) link

seems to be nytimes articles reviewsbro

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I have attended journalism classes and even thought of being a journalist myself.

^^ needs to reach meme status imo

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

actually this is better

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:37 (thirteen years ago) link

like i am sure that you are good people and all, us steel, but you seem to be inferring nefariousness from NYT times which i honestly feel is not there. no offense intended.

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Experts Fear Mideast Talks Are Too Ambitious
By ISABEL KERSHNER
Published: September 2, 2010

JERUSALEM — As the Israeli and Palestinian leaders pledged at the peace summit meeting in Washington this week to try to resolve the core issues that have long divided their people and bloodied the land, a growing number of stakeholders here in Israel worried that the two sides were aiming too high.

this is how it's done: EXPERTS fear the talks are too ambitious. me? nyt reporter? could not say. no feeling one way or another. just gonna write it up using the neutral and nonjudgemental medium we like to call english.

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:40 (thirteen years ago) link

no offense nrq but... have you ever taken a journalism class?

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

or even thought about being a journalist yourself?

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

because im not sure youre qualified to have this discussion

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Let's review the press, shall we?

The NYT article is inaccurate. Here is the Chicago Tribune article linked to through Wikipedia ( a much fairer, less curmudgeonly and better researched article):

But Pitchfork's rave review for Radiohead's highly anticipated "Kid A" album in fall 2000 brought an influx of new readers from other band Web sites and message boards. Though the writing on the site remains wildly erratic, it is fervent; the most hostile reviews are written with the passion of a freshly jilted lover berating her ex. And the rave reviews carry weight with readers looking for the next big thing.

Kid A: not mainstream "rock".

x-post to "i am legernd" (your opinion toward the media is passive and cynical...I am just trying to be helpful in indicating that actual journalism programs don't recommend certain approaches). Anyway, mainstream newspapers write bad or misleading headlines all the time, that doesn't mean we the readership should let it slide.

I rest my case that ONE NYT article is inappropriate, thoughtless and inaccurate. I am just horrified that they did something so unprofessional and this isn't the first time, either.

contenderizer, I have seen this attitude toward blogs or so-called "indie" sites TOO many times from allegedly authoritative news sources like the New York Times.

Is inferring nefariousness a crime? You don't care enough to make a convincing argument to the contrary.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:43 (thirteen years ago) link

you are an actual nut

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:44 (thirteen years ago) link

but i dont like taking too much space in a message board

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:47 (thirteen years ago) link

For the record, I think there is plenty of professional, thoughtful writing in the NYT. I take the time to read it. This isn't an example of that. I would think that being shocked the NYT would do something so foolish would indicate that I expect better of them.

i just like barbecue rib, whatever (u s steel), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

this is all because the nyt said that pitchfork had 'a limited range of interests' or

just sayin, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's more about how much they hate latins

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 09:54 (thirteen years ago) link

both of these seem to be pretty inarguable imo

just sayin, Friday, 3 September 2010 09:56 (thirteen years ago) link

I have attended journalism classes and even thought of being a journalist myself.

IRL LOL

FRESH MEAT (MFB), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:35 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahahahahha this is great

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

glad u s steel has been outed as a complete maniac

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link

what in the world is going on itt

markers, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:16 (thirteen years ago) link

u s steel has had the Nude Spock book thrown at him more than once iirc

great British wasteman = u (DJ Mencap), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:22 (thirteen years ago) link

u s steel is definitely not nude spock, who was more of a crafty supervillain

('_') (omar little), Friday, 3 September 2010 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah this is entry-level nutbardom but still pretty great

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:56 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't think it's nutty - considering how people on ilx regularly go apopletic about details and minor signifiers (e.g. politics of messenger bags).

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Excuse me sir, are you interested in getting into a detailed argument with me here? Because I don't like taking too much space in a message board and I'm sorry about that.

^^ you dont think this is nutty, and also terrific

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

lollin all over again

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:04 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's terrific, but only nutty in that it's basically saying "i don't give a fuck" about the ilx social conventions

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

oh my god how did i miss all this until now. US STEEL NEVER LEAVE US.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't said anything yet but I think u s steel is one of the best writers i've read in a long time.

('_') (omar little), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahahhahaha

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link

he's no mar1ssa though

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

think in the wake of blair and miller, the nyt could do worse than to hire u s steel, a man of integrity -- and one with a keen eye on the wordcount

i am legernd (history mayne), Friday, 3 September 2010 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

well, he's more concise than the PRR guy

sarahel, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:13 (thirteen years ago) link

what's funny is i'm p sure what offended us steel was simply caramanica giving prr dude's account, but departing from direct quotes, tho it's hard to be certain without reading the whole piece, which i'm so not gonna do.

btw markers it's totally all your fault and don't let anyone tell u different

zvookster, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:15 (thirteen years ago) link

haaaa

markers, Friday, 3 September 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

I haven't said anything yet but I think u s steel is one of the best writers i've read in a long time.

― ('_') (omar little), Friday, September 3, 2010 9:07 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

ow

having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 19:22 (thirteen years ago) link

ok i'm reading this guy for the 1st time, the post on the arcade fire album, and its kinda gripping. it actually reads pretty similarly to certain ilm posters when they go in-depth and just freewheel on a topic (which i tend to enjoy!)

ciderpress, Friday, 3 September 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link


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