Taylor Swift - Speak Now (Oct 2010) - hype, anticipation &c

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (1391 of them)

also the music video is so lollllllll bad

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Mine" is what I'd like to start calling Vintage Taylor.

And it's fantastic.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Friday, 3 September 2010 13:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Friday, 3 September 2010 14:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

He is such a loser on every level you can lose in life.

(¬_¬) (Nicole), Friday, 3 September 2010 14:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Mine" is dope -- looking forward to the record

markers, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

as of now, I don't think it's as good as "You Belong With Me," "Change," and probably some other songs on her previous record, though

markers, Friday, 3 September 2010 14:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

<3 this phot of her

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 8 September 2010 08:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

!!

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 13:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

wdyll post terry richardson

always be cozen (dayo), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 14:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, September 8, 2010 4:23 AM (11 hours ago)

max skim (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 8 September 2010 19:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

also the music video is so lollllllll bad

agreed it reminded me of like wilson phillips or something

teledyldonix, Thursday, 9 September 2010 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

idk why though

teledyldonix, Thursday, 9 September 2010 02:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Video's pretty good, I think:

Can someone make a looping .jpg of the ridiculously cute Taylor head-bob thing from 1:52-1:53 btw??

― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, August 28, 2010 2:02 PM (2 weeks ago)

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 05:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

Can someone make a looping .jpg of the ridiculously cute Taylor head-bob thing from 1:52-1:53 btw??

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Saturday, 11 September 2010 05:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

i would just like to note that laura marling is younger than taylor swift.

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

laura marling writes better lyrics and better songs. <3 <3 <3

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

this kinda thing always goes really well

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

my main point is that taylor swift's lyrics are good for a 14-yo, but now that she's 21 she should consider reading a book

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

or 20, whatever

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

idk man i think "mine" is pretty obviously a song written by a much more mature person

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Flash forward, and we're takin' on the world together
And there's a drawer of my things at your place
You learn my secrets and figure out why I'm guarded
You say we'll never make my parents' mistakes

But we got bills to pay
We got nothin' figured out
When it was hard to take
Yes, yes

This is what I thought about:

^^ this is a great lead in to a chorus about remembering meeting someone imo

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

the structure isn't awkward, but it's a song about two really boring, poorly-sketched characters. there's really nothing remarkable about any of the lyrics.

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

i guess if i cared that much about well-sketched characters i would read books

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

'made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter' packs a lot into it, imo

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

I do agree that 'mine' is a retread, structurally, of the narrative tropes she was using on Fearless and maybe the s/t

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

like putting the chorus into the boy's mouth - pretty sure she's done that at least once or twice before?

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyway i don't think they're poorly sketched -- i think the "you made a rebel of a careless man's careful daughter" line does a lot of the legwork in a way that a line in a three minute pop song should

not to mention that this seems like an odd criticism of taylor in general -- i mean, you love that lady antebellum song right? you can't find two more basically sketched characters than the two in that song -- the-dream isn't exactly writing novels out there either, but it doesn't mean that the songs can't still be affecting & amazing

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

laura marling comes from a completely different songwriting tradition and is trying to do completely different things with her music (and doing them very well) (to be slightly reductive, individual catharsis vs. relatable normativity).

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 13 September 2010 07:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

i just read that t-swift sang a song about kanye at the vmas last night lol. tell me about it, people who watched! is it on youtube? i don't have time to read thge whole vmas thread.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

lady antebellum song isn't a character sketch, it's a song about a specific moment--where one is totally lonely and pathetic and drunk and longing--and it's much more relatable than Taylor's "uptight girl falls in love w/ boy and remembers when he said 'i love you'" narrative, which is dull and anonymous and doesn't ring true. there is nothing 'affecting' about "mine" at all.

the-dream isn't a girl with a guitar.

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

comparing swift to marling is a bit like comparing, idk, carole king to pj harvey.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

lex, it's a decent song that would be better w/o the stigma of it being about kanyegate

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

well, it's a really good song actually

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

what's it called? every news report i've read so far has neglected to mention this detail

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

"mine" is about a specific moment too! notably the one sung about in the chorus -- it's just a bit fleshed out with background than "need you now" -- i don't think it attempts to be a 'character sketch' tho

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's called "innocence" i think

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

taylor swift needs to use some different narrative arcs imo

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

& i don't really see the point of judging taylor's music as character sketches, seeing as she's not writing movie scripts -- she's writing pop songs

it's like the 'feminist' arguments against taylor as if female music should be judged 100% on how feminist it is

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

the-dream isn't a girl with a guitar.

― christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, September 13, 2010 3:00 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

i also don't see what the difference is -- you only care if girls w/ guitars write songs that are good character sketches?

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

you really don't listen to any female singer-songwriters do you

that movie script line is such bullshit

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

taylor's songs aren't interesting enough for the lyrics to be bad.

christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

i don't think taylor is as monolithic a writer (subject-wise) as you're paint her to be, dayo -- her huge singles are maybe, but shit like "white horse" & "breathe" are much different than "love story" & "you belong with me"

also i think "mine" is is enough of a switch up in subject matter to still seem fresh -- i would at least hear the whole album first

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

taylor's songs aren't interesting enough for the lyrics to be bad.

― christopher dullan (Tape Store), Monday, September 13, 2010 3:12 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

well i disagree with the idea that her songs aren't interesting and that her lyrics are bad, so \(o_O)/

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Then, you took me by surprise
You said, "I'll never leave you alone."

You said, "I remember how we felt, sitting by the water.
And every time I look at you, it's like the first time.
I fell in love with a careless man's careful daughter.
She is the best thing that's ever been mine."

He knelt to the ground and pulled out a ring
And said
Marry me Juliet you'll never hae to be alone
I love you and that's all I really know
I talked to your dad go pick out a white dress
It's a love story baby just say yes

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

I guess it just annoys me that her latest big song kind of apes her last big song

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

because there's a POV change? that also happens in two of her 30 other songs? i guess it's not that big of an issue to me

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

notice the part where I said "her last big song"

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

i don't think it's bullshit to say that arguing that a pop singer's songs aren't good enough 'character sketches' might be missing the point of the music in the first place

banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

which reduces the set to 'love story, you belong with me, mine'

subtle like the g in 'goole' (dayo), Monday, 13 September 2010 08:23 (3 years ago) Permalink


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.