2008 Primaries Thread

CNN says big college precincts still haven't reported. A tie perhaps?

lol puhlz

ron paul = jim mora, sr

guliani = ... ... mike tice? mike martz?

Just a random thought: when are people going to start referring to Hillary as Clinton 44? Bush 41, Clinton 42, Bush 43, Clinton 44 ... Ad absurdum.

OMG Alan Keyes. *love*

you'll have to pry my 44 from my cold dead hands

obv, but obama = tony dungy

Chelsea Clinton '24!

^ban

better dungy than edwardz

HRC v. McCain = bad dynamic.

HRC v JMcC is some boring ass bullshit

correction; charisma-less bullshit

NH awards delegates proportionally, so if the math is straightforward, that means Clinton gets about 12 delegates and Obama gets around 11. So in terms of electoral math, the placement of 1st and 2nd matters little - except in terms of psychology, of course.

All this means is that this is still up in the air, amirite? It's not a lock for anybody yet.

yes HOOS

Well, if I understand correctly, Clinton and Obama are now tied in number of delegates, since Obama won 16 in Iowa to Clinton's 15.

obama looking like hes spoilin for a fight

Rt, Hoos. But if Edwards gets out after this, it's a big plus for HRC.

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/7401/thumbs/r-MCCAIN-AND-CLINTON-huge.jpg

delegate numbers mean absolutely nothing at this stage

ew mcteeth

But if Edwards gets out after this, it's a big plus for HRC.

uh, no

http://images.politico.com/global/080108_clinton_mccain_smiley_v3.jpg

Yes. (a) it stops Edwards doing Obama's dirty work by attacking HRC and (b) Edwards is cutting into HRC's ''beer track'' vote.

No, it's not up in the air. Well, it is, but the momentum is Hillary's now, and somehow I suspect she'll uphold it more forcefully than Obama did his.

But if Edwards gets out after this, it's a big plus for HRC.

uh, no

True.

at this point i'm kind of hoping for a hillary win in n.h. just to hear the grinding gears of the conventional wisdom realigning again.

i got my wish! listen at them gears. nobody can figure out what the storyline is now.

delegate numbers mean absolutely nothing at this stage

Isn't that a bit like saying that the score in a baseball game means nothing after the first inning?

conventional wisdom has it that edwards/obama are splitting the anyone but hillary vote

http://www.whitekit.com/images/crest_white_strips.jpg

CW is wrong on this point.

Actually I think the best thing for Hillary at this point would be for Edward to stay in the race and keep making nasty cracks at her.

Well, that may be true, but I think Edwards won't make that mistake again (to the same degree, at least).

Sully speculates that, apart from NH's non-conformist tendencies, more voters thought HRC did really well in Saturday's debate.

Ugh:

Look, Barack Obama’s an impressive guy; I don’t know anybody who dislikes him. But I think we should be encouraged that voters can stand up against an emotional 24/7 media Valentine for one candidate, and vote instead for a person they think will be a steadier and more reliable Commander-in-Chief (especially important in time of war). Hillary as insurgent against the liberal MSM—you go, girl!

Yes (re: debate, Alfred).

I still think her allegedly "shrill" response to the change theme was actually quite good.

We all did!

ILX Wisdom trumps Conventional Wisdom. Again!

Looking swell!

HRC can make the MSM's apparent dislike for her work to her advantage.

That ''I found my own voice'' line was a brilliant phrase.

http://gothamist.com/attachments/jen/2008_01_clinton.jpg

nate - the candidates have less than 25 delegates so far. on super tuesday, more than 1500 delegates are awarded. so the answer to your question is no.

Well, you never know - it could come down to those last 25 delegates, couldn't it?

no, it won't

clinton and obama are tied in delegate count now, i believe

I still think her allegedly "shrill" response to the change theme was actually quite good.

i thought it sucked, actually

delegate numbers mean absolutely nothing at this stage

Isn't that a bit like saying that the score in a baseball game means nothing after the first inning?

-- o. nate, Tuesday, January 8, 2008 10:56 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

A 1-1 score after the first inning means absolutely nothing.