The Led Zeppelin Plagiarism Compendium

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oh this is TOOMUCH

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

*shrug* I know quite a few people who don't like Zep, it's not a crime.

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

can't believe led zep ripped off the completely original 100% unborrowed tunes of these blues masters

hongthrone: norsk arisk synth pop (crüt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread = The Bill Magill plagiarism of some tedious assholes I went to college with compendium

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

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The Redd, The Blecch & Other Things (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread = The Bill Magill plagiarism of some tedious assholes I went to college with compendium

― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:30 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Jeez, sorry for discussing plagiarism by Led Zeppelin on a thread about plagiarism by Led Zeppelin.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

When did I once mention Black Sabbath on this thread?

― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:24 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

Please to read your own display name.

a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Again, the question is when i ever mentioned that band on this thread.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

great thread.

i never knew the zep ripped off so many truly songs that were 1000% original in the first place.

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

TRULY

_▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I just hope it gets someone to listen to Spirit, eh? They're a pretty great (if kinda goofY) band.

full of country goodness and green pea-ness (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link

can't believe led zep ripped off the completely original 100% unborrowed tunes of these blues masters

― hongthrone: norsk arisk synth pop (crüt), Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

^^^ the money shot

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

The funny thing is, The Yardbirds were doing this shit way before Plant & Page signed on.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't think anybody has pointed out yet how the Beatles shamelessly and egregiously ripped off the Rutles in similar fashion, raping their career.

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

if the Beatles had been a real band they wouldn't have had to rip off Chuck Berry and John Cage

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

beatles suck

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

also Tom Waits ripped off Rolf from the Muppets vocally

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been thinking lately that Lady Gaga might have stolen a couple of things from Madonna, does anyone else think so? Maybe it's just me, but I think "Poker Face" sounds a lot like a sped-up version of "Live To Tell". What a rip off!

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rutles#Lawsuits

Following the release of the 1978 The Rutles album, ATV Music, the then-owner of the publishing rights to the Beatles catalog, sued Innes for copyright infringement. Though Innes hired a musicologist to defend the originality of his songs[2], he settled with ATV out of court for 50% of the royalties and shared songwriting credit on the 14 songs included on the album.

The Redd, The Blecch & Other Things (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been thinking lately that Lady Gaga might have stolen a couple of things from Madonna, does anyone else think so?

omg no!

mama monster is an original.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks to this thread for schooling me on the Jake Holmes track. Nice!

Chaim Poutine (NickB), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link

"also I don't think anybody here is saying "plagiarism is a-ok"."

i'm not really here, but i think its a-ok.

scott seward, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm waiting for Blind Willie McTell's "Achilles Last Stand" to surface one of these days.

Zooster vs. The Slapp (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 19 August 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link

ooh I see we haven't referenced Bonham's quote of Little Richard's "You Keep a Knockin' (But You Can't Come In)" At the beginning of "Rock 'n' Roll" either...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYr7I4gOSXk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GonQSHxzb1k

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 August 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6C_5wxkuAQ&feature=search

man if i close my eyes and listen i honestly can't tell which is which

underrated klaatu albums i have loved (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link

You're probably clicking the same button if yr eyes are closed.

Mark G, Monday, 23 August 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The older I get and the more music I hear the better Led Zeppelin gets.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I'll admit I 'quite liked' PhysGraf, at least parts of it anyway.

Mark G, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

I mean in every respect — the songwriting and the musicianship and yes the STYLE (I know this is not the cw but in retrospect their exceptional taste is just more and more apparent), but mostly the sonics. I just don't own many records that sound better than the ones Jimmy Page made.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link

I just don't own many records that sound better than the ones Jimmy Page made.

I've always maintained that Page is a lot more interesting as a producer than he is as a guitarist. (despite his great scenes in It Might Get Loud)

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I agree and I don't think this diminishes his guitar playing one bit.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

been avoiding It Might Get Loud cuz of the edge but I am pretty curious about the Page bits. He was an amazing producer, the engineering on the Zep records is next level.

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 August 2010 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

The part in his house among his record collection where he's blissing out to Link Wray is pretty great.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Also re: above clip when he's in the foyer at Headley Grange explaining how they set up Bonzo's kit for Levee. Awesome.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

There's about 5-10 minutes of that movie worth watching, all involving Page. I wouldn't recommend sitting through the whole thing.

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Monday, 23 August 2010 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah it's otherwise kind of a cringe-fest. The other two guys wear "hat" hats and have relatively limited perspectives/bags of tricks.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoever had the bright idea for the big climax to be the three of them getting together and playing that massive guitar anthem "The Weight" should be kicked in the nuts.

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Monday, 23 August 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

So so painful.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Absolutely the most wtf part about the whole thing, aside from the casting.

Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link

i liked the movie quite a bit, but yeah "the weight" is one of the most wtf musical moments in cinematic history. and my favorite wtf moment within that wtf moment is edge suddenly realizing, just as they're about to play it, that they've been practicing the verses wrong, with an Em chord where a Bm should go. it struck me as wft-ily odd that three guitar greats could miss that. it also made me feel significantly better about myself.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 August 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Whoever had the bright idea for the big climax to be the three of them getting together and playing that massive guitar anthem "The Weight" should be kicked in the nuts.
lol, i haven't seen this yet, but my friend who has ranted about "the weight" sequence for about six months.

tylerw, Monday, 23 August 2010 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

ranting friend otm

My totem animal is a hamburger. (WmC), Monday, 23 August 2010 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

"The older I get and the more music I hear the better Led Zeppelin gets." ― Hadrian VIII

^^^ YES.

jaybabcock, Monday, 23 August 2010 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Copy/pasting my post from "It Might Get Loud"

Finally got around to watching this and yeah, the high-concept gave me a bad taste but the Page stuff was great. He was basically the only one of the three with anything meaningful to say and it was kinda neat seeing him quietly analyze what the other guys were doing (like the run through "I Will Follow") and then make it sound like Zeppelin.

Best part: Page cutting into "Whole Lotta Love" and Edge and White both bug-eyeing out because Jimmy Page Is Playing Zeppelin Right In Front Of Them.

― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, June 6, 2010 12:49 AM (2 months ago)

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 August 2010 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Here is a cartoon-slide review of a book that seems to be relevant to our discussion. It has Ben Franklin as Superman leading us through the slides, but I prefer to think of the guy as Shakey Mo Collier in tights leading the pro-plagiarism brigade. Substitute the "BF" on his chest for "SMC". Enjoy:

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2010/08/23/common_as_air_lewis_hyde/slideshow.html

Zeppelin to Howlin Wolf: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

The Gift is terrific book.

Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link

"A" terrific book, even. Ironically it was the book that convinced me to lend out books again after never getting so many back...and I never got it back :(

Hadrian VIII, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I used to think "Oh, Whole lotta love is soet of based on a similar thing on the Small Faces album, so I'm told" until I actually got to hear the track and then I thought "IT'S EXACTLY THE RUDDY SAME!!!"

Yeah, more or less. Led Zeppelin rips off the Small Faces track "You Need Loving" which was itself more or less ripped off from Willie Dixon's "You Need Love". And yet, hilariously, 20 years later Willie Dixon sues Zep instead of the Faces! And wins his share of the publishing royalies. Shrewd guy, considering that Led Zeppelin II sold 93 times as many copies as The Small Faces over the years.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Tuesday, 24 August 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link


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