I never said that. Check my post at 12:51. Arrangement and songwriting are two completely different things.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
they weren't writing a term paper jeez
― goole, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
so let me ask this, if Led Zeppelin went back and time and wrote the exact same music but gave proper credits/recognition from the bungee, would you be a fan?
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
a complete and utter ripoff like Dazed and Confused
it is not a complete and utter ripoff fyi
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
a complete and utter ripoff would have also kept the Zep version under 4 minutes
I suspect that Bill is just butthurt that Sabbath's "War Pigs" is a COMPLETE AND UTTER RIPOFF of Zep's "Good Times, Bad Times"
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
like just cuz they changed some words around and added a long improvisatory section in the middle and slowed it down doesn't mean it isn't the worst most unforgiveable sin imaginable and btw Sabbath are not a real band
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Just because you turn your amps up to 11 and feed Bonham some extra-fine Bolivian prior to recording what was originally a mellow number doesnt justify the plagiarism.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:46 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
just because you take a boring song and make it awesome oh wait
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link
the whole point of music, and especially hard rock music, is to be awesome
led zep and black sabbath were both awesome. case closed.
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
man what am i gonna do with these fake Led Zeppelin cdsOK I laughed.
― Jazzbo, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:01 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway ... back to Moka's list:
does Bonham quoting Max Roach in Moby Dick count?
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Ok this list totally left off that they lifted "Immigrant Song" from The Osmonds' "Hold Her Tight."
― full of country goodness and green pea-ness (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:04 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm being sued by John Cage for ripping off "4'33" while sleeping
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
no
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:56 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
When did I once mention Black Sabbath on this thread?
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
you just did
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
hilarious, i mean before that
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:25 (thirteen years ago) link
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:23 PM
Ok then, it seems that you don't like them as a band simply cuz you don't like their songs, or in the case of the 'ripped off' songs, the way they perform them. upthread you seemed to be implying that the uncredited ripoff played a large part in your dislike of the music is why I asked.
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Correct. I understand i am in the minority
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
oh this is TOOMUCH
― Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
*shrug* I know quite a few people who don't like Zep, it's not a crime.
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
can't believe led zep ripped off the completely original 100% unborrowed tunes of these blues masters
― hongthrone: norsk arisk synth pop (crüt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
this thread = The Bill Magill plagiarism of some tedious assholes I went to college with compendium
― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
This thread needs customized version of http://i50.tinypic.com/vg0kmx.jpg
― The Redd, The Blecch & Other Things (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:35 (thirteen years ago) link
http://i50.tinypic.com/vg0kmx.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/mK6wCFVHxshW4GltygKiFf753kTfTYw6ZmN2-Mwp5btWAUMxxluQV1BEys4Z69if5dNOhdRxDdAlWr7LyjFL3VgEIGFZkp4W/tonyiommijimmypagejeffbeckjsteventyler.jpg
― Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:39 (thirteen years ago) link
― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:30 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
Jeez, sorry for discussing plagiarism by Led Zeppelin on a thread about plagiarism by Led Zeppelin.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:24 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark
Please to read your own display name.
― a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Again, the question is when i ever mentioned that band on this thread.
― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link
great thread.
i never knew the zep ripped off so many truly songs that were 1000% original in the first place.
― _▂▅▇█▓▒░◕‿‿◕░▒▓█▇▅▂_ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link
TRULY
I just hope it gets someone to listen to Spirit, eh? They're a pretty great (if kinda goofY) band.
― full of country goodness and green pea-ness (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:19 (thirteen years ago) link
― hongthrone: norsk arisk synth pop (crüt), Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:29 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark
^^^ the money shot
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link
The funny thing is, The Yardbirds were doing this shit way before Plant & Page signed on.
― Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think anybody has pointed out yet how the Beatles shamelessly and egregiously ripped off the Rutles in similar fashion, raping their career.
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
if the Beatles had been a real band they wouldn't have had to rip off Chuck Berry and John Cage
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
beatles suck
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
also Tom Waits ripped off Rolf from the Muppets vocally
― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been thinking lately that Lady Gaga might have stolen a couple of things from Madonna, does anyone else think so? Maybe it's just me, but I think "Poker Face" sounds a lot like a sped-up version of "Live To Tell". What a rip off!
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rutles#Lawsuits
Following the release of the 1978 The Rutles album, ATV Music, the then-owner of the publishing rights to the Beatles catalog, sued Innes for copyright infringement. Though Innes hired a musicologist to defend the originality of his songs[2], he settled with ATV out of court for 50% of the royalties and shared songwriting credit on the 14 songs included on the album.
― The Redd, The Blecch & Other Things (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I've been thinking lately that Lady Gaga might have stolen a couple of things from Madonna, does anyone else think so?
omg no!
mama monster is an original.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks to this thread for schooling me on the Jake Holmes track. Nice!
― Chaim Poutine (NickB), Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
"also I don't think anybody here is saying "plagiarism is a-ok"."
i'm not really here, but i think its a-ok.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm waiting for Blind Willie McTell's "Achilles Last Stand" to surface one of these days.
― Zooster vs. The Slapp (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 19 August 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
ooh I see we haven't referenced Bonham's quote of Little Richard's "You Keep a Knockin' (But You Can't Come In)" At the beginning of "Rock 'n' Roll" either...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYr7I4gOSXk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GonQSHxzb1k
― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 23 August 2010 15:44 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbrjRKB586s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6C_5wxkuAQ&feature=search
man if i close my eyes and listen i honestly can't tell which is which
― underrated klaatu albums i have loved (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 23 August 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
You're probably clicking the same button if yr eyes are closed.
― Mark G, Monday, 23 August 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
The older I get and the more music I hear the better Led Zeppelin gets.
― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll admit I 'quite liked' PhysGraf, at least parts of it anyway.
― Mark G, Monday, 23 August 2010 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link