The Led Zeppelin Plagiarism Compendium

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Page namechecks the author of In My Time of Dying from the stage in How the West Was Won iirc

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

this is a boring argument/thread in general....

^ then why did you click on it?

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think Moka's post was argumentative or critical - it is interesting to pore over Zep's sources (as I enjoyed doing with this comp: http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Roots-Of-Led-Zeppelin/release/519398). But when it turned into: RIPOFF ARTISTS! J'ACCUSE then it got bad.

sorry Bill

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

I said this on some other thread but one of the things that I think gets overstated is that while Zep borrowed/stole liberally (I don't think there's anything at all wrong with this, fwiw) they're stuff rarely actually SOUNDS like the original. the production/arrangement/performance of material was a central aspect of Zeppelin, and claiming that, for example, they're version of Nobody's Fault But Mine bears anything more than a passing resemblance to Bukka's stripped-down, lo-fi original is just ridiculous.

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that.

Theodore "Thee Diddy" Roosevelt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^^

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Totally disagree. I like how you picked that one and not a complete and utter ripoff like Dazed and Confused. And Ive never heard Bukka White's version, but a steal is a steal.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

rock must be virtuous

goole, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just because you turn your amps up to 11 and feed Bonham some extra-fine Bolivian prior to recording what was originally a mellow number doesnt justify the plagiarism.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

If they had been a real band, they wouldnt have to rip guys off. Has nothing to do with virtue.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

you think they're that bad? i'm no fan, mind you, but that's QUITE A CLAIM.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

man what am i gonna do with these fake Led Zeppelin cds

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

i mean before today i considered myself a led zeppelin fan but after being smacked in the face with this 20+ year old evidence that everybody already knew, I think it's time to reconsider....

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol "real band"

I dunno Bill these are just kinda lame ad hominem attacks

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

So i guess what Im saying is that this point is irrelevant:

"they're version of Nobody's Fault But Mine bears anything more than a passing resemblance to Bukka's stripped-down, lo-fi original is just ridiculous"

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

I can't comment on that cuz I haven't heard Bukka's, but how you got from that to Led Zeppelin not being a real band = o_O.

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

you think they're that bad? i'm no fan, mind you, but that's QUITE A CLAIM.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:50 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I'm not a fan.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

you think this sounds JUST LIKE the Zep version = you have no ears

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

I never said that. Check my post at 12:51. Arrangement and songwriting are two completely different things.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

they weren't writing a term paper jeez

goole, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

so let me ask this, if Led Zeppelin went back and time and wrote the exact same music but gave proper credits/recognition from the bungee, would you be a fan?

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

a complete and utter ripoff like Dazed and Confused

it is not a complete and utter ripoff fyi

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

a complete and utter ripoff would have also kept the Zep version under 4 minutes

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

I suspect that Bill is just butthurt that Sabbath's "War Pigs" is a COMPLETE AND UTTER RIPOFF of Zep's "Good Times, Bad Times"

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

like just cuz they changed some words around and added a long improvisatory section in the middle and slowed it down doesn't mean it isn't the worst most unforgiveable sin imaginable and btw Sabbath are not a real band

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just because you turn your amps up to 11 and feed Bonham some extra-fine Bolivian prior to recording what was originally a mellow number doesnt justify the plagiarism.

― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:46 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just because you take a boring song and make it awesome oh wait

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

the whole point of music, and especially hard rock music, is to be awesome

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 August 2010 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

led zep and black sabbath were both awesome. case closed.

tylerw, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

man what am i gonna do with these fake Led Zeppelin cds
OK I laughed.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyway ... back to Moka's list:

does Bonham quoting Max Roach in Moby Dick count?

glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ok this list totally left off that they lifted "Immigrant Song" from The Osmonds' "Hold Her Tight."

full of country goodness and green pea-ness (Abbbottt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm being sued by John Cage for ripping off "4'33" while sleeping

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

so let me ask this, if Led Zeppelin went back and time and wrote the exact same music but gave proper credits/recognition from the bungee, would you be a fan?

― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

I suspect that Bill is just butthurt that Sabbath's "War Pigs" is a COMPLETE AND UTTER RIPOFF of Zep's "Good Times, Bad Times"

― glitter hands! glitter hands! razzle! dazzle! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:56 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

When did I once mention Black Sabbath on this thread?

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

you just did

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

hilarious, i mean before that

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

so let me ask this, if Led Zeppelin went back and time and wrote the exact same music but gave proper credits/recognition from the bungee, would you be a fan?

― michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:54 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no

― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:23 PM

Ok then, it seems that you don't like them as a band simply cuz you don't like their songs, or in the case of the 'ripped off' songs, the way they perform them. upthread you seemed to be implying that the uncredited ripoff played a large part in your dislike of the music is why I asked.

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Correct. I understand i am in the minority

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh this is TOOMUCH

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

*shrug* I know quite a few people who don't like Zep, it's not a crime.

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

can't believe led zep ripped off the completely original 100% unborrowed tunes of these blues masters

hongthrone: norsk arisk synth pop (crüt), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

this thread = The Bill Magill plagiarism of some tedious assholes I went to college with compendium

Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

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The Redd, The Blecch & Other Things (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Redd, The Blecch & Other Things (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hadrian VIII, Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

this thread = The Bill Magill plagiarism of some tedious assholes I went to college with compendium

― Ground Zero Mostel (Hurting 2), Thursday, August 19, 2010 1:30 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Jeez, sorry for discussing plagiarism by Led Zeppelin on a thread about plagiarism by Led Zeppelin.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

When did I once mention Black Sabbath on this thread?

― Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, August 19, 2010 5:24 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

Please to read your own display name.

a mix of music (Lionel Ritchie) and kicks (my tongue) (Phil D.), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

Again, the question is when i ever mentioned that band on this thread.

Sabbath to Ulver: "Suck It" (Bill Magill), Thursday, 19 August 2010 18:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

great thread.

i never knew the zep ripped off so many truly songs that were 1000% original in the first place.

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TRULY

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