i looked online but couldn't find out who produced tin can trust. if they've dropped Froom i'm more excited about this
― ....some kind of psychedelic wallflower (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Producer is just listed as Los Lobos here: http://music.barnesandnoble.com/Tin-Can-Trust/Los-Lobos/e/826663121100/?itm=2&USRI=los+lobos
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I hate it when bands take a production credit - the engineer on this record is John Macy.
― gross rainbow of haerosmith (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Saturday, 14 August 2010 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link
I heard at a barnesandnoble yesterday, and I recognized the Grateful Dead cover, the Clapton/Winwood vocals, the Spanish language song, and correctly guessed Los Lobos. It was good though, and the best thing barnesandnobles was playing.
― it made sense when i did it (Zachary Taylor), Sunday, 15 August 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
listened to the samples of this on Amazon .. wow, it sounds fantastic. will definitely pick this up
― Stormy Davis, Sunday, 15 August 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Has anybody heard the Hildago/Rosas CD?
― banjoboy, Sunday, 15 August 2010 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Um, sorry...it's Hidalgo.
― banjoboy, Sunday, 15 August 2010 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Colossal Head rules. One of the best albums of the 90s.
― brimstead, Saturday, 23 February 2013 03:10 (eleven years ago) link
if yous need some hip cliches, the second half of it is like portishead remixing Peter green era fleetwood Mac
― brimstead, Saturday, 23 February 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
C
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 April 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link
invoking robert hilburn is not a good thing, ugh what a filthy sausage
― brimstead, Thursday, 24 April 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link
underrated
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:06 (seven years ago) link
I mean even this dopey Disney songs album is p great
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
yeah Hildago's take on that Toy Story song.. "I Will Go Sailing No More" is just gorgeous
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link
Hildago and Rojas became friends over a mutual love of Randy Newman records in the early 70s, so kind of a full circle thing.
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
So underrated. Like I've said before, it's like somebody flipped a switch and they were suddenly not cool, despite a relative lack of drop off.
The more you know: supposedly they are notorious at local clubs for drinking at the bar dry at the end of the night.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:09 (seven years ago) link
Ugh, drinking the bar dry at the end of the night.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:10 (seven years ago) link
feel like Rojas' blues dad schtick has taken them into "uncool" territory
― kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 19:25 (seven years ago) link
On a major kick: Will the Wolf Survive, the superior By the Light of the Moon, the even better The Neighborhood. As forgotten as they are, it's not often mentioned how their guitars got tougher, the rhythms more fascinating; my stereotypical thinking led me to think Mitchell Froom did his clinkety clankety Froomery on otherwise solid songs instead of complementing already weird songs.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link
Massively underrated band. Someone on twitter once asked for people to name the most underrated band, and Jason Isbell, immediately and to his credit, posted "Los Lobos."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link
Don't remember this thread, should have long since posted this, from my Nashville Scene ballot comments re 2010 albums:
On Los Lobos' Tin Can Trust, it seems like the narrator is on theverge, he's some old tired guy, but made up his mind to do something,take revenge and/or a commission, various indicators of volatilitykeep rolling by or up the block, and little jolts--I know, enough withthe foreplay already, but the tension keeps getting renewed,reinforced, and the Dead cover, "West L.A. Fadeaway," fits perfectly, with no crunchy granola attached (it's all sidewalks and traffic, the whole album, and thenthere's the sardonic "happy ending" history short). A cliche to sayit's a soundtrack for movies you can make up, but it really seems towork that way, rumbling implications--if it were so definite astoryline, would get too familiar too fast, perhaps. It is badassurban country, obsessive as a shot glass lens.
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
my fault that i don't really know the others, but kiko is an incredible album
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link
Yeah, all the tracks I remember are pretty vivid, need to check it again.xpost Then from 2015 Pazz & Jop comments:Los Lobos, Gates of Gold: Sun-dried rough-edged West Coast splendor, variegated, acerbic, appetitive, keen. Still got the touch & the L.A. River. (Jimmy Carter: "When somebody described Ronald Reagan to ma as an ambitious old man, I laughed. I'm not laughing any more.")
That's still the most recent I've heard. Maybe they'll do some Deluxe Edition expanded reissues, or maybe they have?
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
I used to have an unexplainable aversion to these guys, probably because my only frame of reference when I was younger was the La Bamba soundtrack, but I picked up the Just Another Band from East L.A. comp earlier this year and belatedly realized how great they are.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link
I have a good friend who is (or I guess, was) always buying great seats to shows in his city and then generously inviting friends along. A few years back he bought some seats to see Los Lobos at sort of a seated club situation, and apparently no one wanted to go with him! He said he ended up going by himself, iirc, and that the band absolutely killed it.
Some trivia: everyone always cites bands like the Pogues, but I've had a club owner tell me that Los Lobos is the only band that ever shut them down at the end of the night. Out of booze, out of time, everyone has to go home.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 15:26 (three years ago) link
I will ride for Collosal Head forever but I know I’m in the minority
― brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
"Mas y Mas" and the title track kick ass.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
I don't understand xhuck's Tom Waits comparisons. Waits loves his clinkety-clankety theatrics, but From and Los Lobos didn't pursue grotesquerie for its own sake.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
it’s way more restrained than waits thing. I get a kind of lofi trip-hop vibe from a lot of stuff, e.g. the murky ride cymbals on stuff like “life is good” reminds me of portishead.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link
“little japan” is a sleeperthe whole last half is really interesting, lots of instrumentals.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
I love "Colossal Head."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
Speaking of Los Lobos and The Pogues, there were two very young women, Nancy McCallion and Catherine Zavala, who had a Southwestern New Wave band, but they saw LL and TP on the same bill in London, then went back to Tucson and started The Mollys, which was Irish-Chicana folk-country-rock-polka etc (also sounded like they knew Willner's Weill tribs), which, why not, the Irish went West to work in the mines, also do some shooting (the band name is in part a reference to the Molly MaGuires from back East), also there was (stay with me now just a little bit longer) the San Patricio Brigade, who switched sides in the Mexican-American War, from the latter to former, and inspired The Chieftans' San Patricio, which includes Linda Ronstadt, Van Dyke Parks, enough Coody to appease the suits, Los Tigres del Norte, Lila Downs, and many more, incl. three tracks feat. Los Centzontles, a really good, deeply knowledgeable young folk-rock etc., who made a couple albums with appearances by David Hidalgo, and I think some other Lobos have showed up onstage them (a publicist told me was having trouble placing coverage in some Americana outlets, even w Hidalgo in there, also He and Taj Mahal were on the follow-up, but something about Los C not sounding American e enough)(I've heard grumbles about that Richard Thompson fella too, I shit you not).
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
Also, though I've never been that into his lyrics or his voice, can see how Waits albums like Rain Dogs and Swordfishtrombones relate sonically to some LL, also the Latin Playboys sidetrip, which xgau loved, esp. the s/t:...David Hidalgo and Louis Pérez rework Kiko outtakes to undercut the band's Springsteenian quest for meaning. Whenever the lyrical impressions lapse toward the stolid or sodden, they're lifted by the spare, bent music: echoes and silences, filtered voices and ancient klaxons, Indian film sounds and scratchy samples of street bebop, jagged Beefheart rhythms and idle guitar thoughts, friendly melodies from a Victrola perched on a barrio windows..., gave that one an A+, and Dose an A, also wrote a bit longer, all of that's here (scroll way down past these Consumer Guide entries for link to other piece):https://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Latin+Playboys
― dow, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
I've meant to check out all the post-Colossal Head albums, can only attest that The Town and the City is really good. Tin Can Trust seems like a good next step? (intrigued by "all sidewalks and traffic")
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
Alfred's writing prompted me to listen to their first two Slash albums last night. (How Will the Wolf Survive? is only 33 minutes, By the Light of the Moon only 40.) I hadn't heard Wolf in over 30 years; I never heard Moon at the time. Listening now, I hear lots of '80s barroom blues in their sound; Stevie Ray Vaughan and the Fabulous Thunderbirds are in there for sure, especially in the guitar tones and the trash-can drum sound on a song like "My Baby's Gone".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXhPp5QIgQM
I'm gonna keep listening. I think I might wind up hating the albums the critics love, but we'll see.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Well, thank you. I'm in the minority for thinking they got better with each album; of the first three, The Neighborhood is the peak.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xDukUlPRhY
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link
"Be Still" is so beautiful. "The Neighborhood" is often overlooked in the band's evolution (and features not one but two cameos from fellow Ignored For No Good Reason roots-rocker John Hiatt).
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
heh -- the Hiatt cameo sounded my alarm bells.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link
There are plenty of good reasons to ignore John Hiatt. Signed, person who bought Slow Turning at 16 based on a rapturous Rolling Stone review, and even saw the man live (with Robert Cray opening!) that fall.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
I bet it was a great double bill! I almost never listen to John Hiatt, but I saw him on some bill with a bunch of other songwriters, and every time it was his turn to sing he absolutely silenced the crowd, so the dude's got my respect.
I've always thought that "The Neighborhood" sounded pretty great, too, so I looked up the producer, and I was surprised to see a name I didn't recognize: Larry Hirsch. Turns out Hirsch was the engineer on a ton of T-Bone Burnett/Mitchell Froom/Nick Lowe productions.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
What I wrote a couple days ago.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link
The Band influence otm; "When the Circus Comes" on "Kiko" is one of the few songs indebted to the Band that actually *sounds* like the Band, right down to the pinched guitar harmonics (which simultaneously also makes it one of few guitar solos inspired by Robertson's playing that actually *sounds* like Robertson's playing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULj3LoXvkcQ
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
totally
― brimstead, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
kiko is a truly weird and beautiful album, i went through a serious kick a few years back. i recall loving "arizona skies" and "wicked rain." also that haunting title track.
re: will the wolf survive, another really solid album, if a bit more traditional than kiko. "i got loaded" will live forever thanks to bull durham
― glengarry gary beers (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
Signed to New West and a new (mostly) covers album, Native Sons, due out in July
1. Love Special Delivery (Thee Midniters)2. Misery (Barrett Strong)3. Bluebird/For What It’s Worth (Buffalo Springfield)4. Los Chucos Suaves (Lalo Guerrero)5. Jamaica Say You Will (Jackson Browne)6. Never No More (Percy Mayfield)7. Native Son (Los Lobos) * the sole original on the album8. Dichoso (Willie Bobo)9. Farmer John (The Premiers)10. Sail On, Sailor (Beach Boys)11. The World Is A Ghetto (WAR)12. Flat Top Joint (Blasters)13. Where Lovers Go (The Jaguars)
kinda digging this one:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJtSi6-0418
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 5 May 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
I like how Shandling makes the band cut up a little right before they go into their song.
pic.twitter.com/thzTQrCFaD— SNL Hosts Introducing the Musical Guest (@snlhostsintro) November 29, 2021
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
Los Lobos live on this latest World Cafe: just did "It's Christmas in Texas," now "Please Come Home For Christmas," w tuba and maybe another bonus horn, kinda The Band-ish (instrumentally)
― dow, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link
Oh wait,it was just an excerpt of a previous live set, now they've gone to Tracy Thorne's version of "River," the suitably inconsolable sleeper seasonal classick: nice cover, duh, but already hearing JM's ace original quite a bit on local jazz station, this and every year.
― dow, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
This is Los Lobos at their most the Band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSKdR0E1cA
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 December 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link
From New West:
Congratulations to Los Lobos on their Grammy win last night! The band was awarded Best Americana Album for their 2021 studio album Native Sons at last night’s ceremony. It is their fourth Grammy Award win.Watch Steve Berlin accept the award on behalf of the band, and catch Los Lobos near you as they begin the next leg of their extensive Native Sons tour this Friday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEH_NxkUwrM
tour dates:https://www.loslobos.org/site/tour.shtml?utm_source=Mailing+List&utm_campaign=80ceed6939-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_04_04_11_16&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9d7f017887-80ceed6939-415586925&goal=0_9d7f017887-80ceed6939-415586925&mc_cid=80ceed6939&mc_eid=3ce2be0c08
― dow, Monday, 4 April 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link