al ship's top 50 rap/r&b crossover singles of the 00s -- which is your favorite?

ust scanned & read a few entries so far but this is epic, al. shld have pitched it to complex for $$$.

― zvookster, Sunday, August 8, 2010 12:21 AM (20 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah considering how long it ended up being i shoulda tried to get paid for it somewhere but i have no idea who wants to run end-of-decade lists 8 months after everyone else's. this is just part one of a planned SIX PART SERIES if anyone's interested, though.

imo al missed by not including
http://www.youtube.com/v/GVucWRs-eWA&fs=1&hl=en

― blap...tremendo (deej), Sunday, August 8, 2010 5:05 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah "Into You" is totally #51 in my head but i was like man i already have five Fab records on here, i can stand to cut one

once the poll ends i'll post my short list of things i would've had in there

3k's verse on "green light" is so awesome -- he's totally energized

hop out the suicides lookin so cobain

i'd never heard this shade sheist joint before -- it's great of course -- was it produced by quik?

i always thought it was cute that wayne shouted out chris brown on the outro of "you" -- it's like he didn't want him to think that he was cheating with lloyd

i think styles p found the closest thing to a rhyme for "orange" with "garbage" -- or at least the way he says it

yes i like that couplet

i had never heard "where i wanna be," nor had i heard "back like that." they are both great!

young gunz say some creepy shit in this song

songs on this list that talk about see through panties: 2

isnt the song called 'addictive'?

if im voting 'favorite' than yeah that but in terms of 'best rap/r&b crossover'... i dunno man that doesnt feel like a crossover, rakim owns that track so hard he makes all of truth hurts verses sound like an extended intro

there is a part in "okay" that sounds just like my alarm clock -- i'm having like a reverse pavlovian reaction

ludacris, balance and rotate all tires

is there a single mp3 that combines the luda, trina AND jay-z verses of "one minute man"? if so, can someone post it?

i have one! can i admit i don't know how to post it?

yes! it's okay

here's what you do -- go to zshare.com and upload it there

young gunz say some creepy shit in this song

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 9, 2010 1:23 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

???

okay i will try j0rdan

shade sheist song is dope, def not quik though

it's actually only two creepy things -- in the intro being all "i want to be your father, your mother, your brother, your sister" and then being "you were 9 but you were fine"

hold on -- zshare.net

my bad

i hope i didn't infect your computer by telling you to go to zshare.com

here it is maybe: http://www.zshare.net/audio/79158067874742e8/

hero

haha i learned something new!

im p sure the idea is that they grew up together -- dont think hes suggesting hes a paedo in that track

well duh, still weird 2 me tho

cant explain him wanting to be her sister, tho

it was very "hoes on my dick cuz i look like her father"

this might pertain to the interests of posters in this thread: http://www.southernhospitality.co.uk/blog/?p=10629

i wish i could find marcello carlins review of that album... which is also magnificent

― Michael B, Monday, 9 August 2010 00:24 (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Happy to oblige.

this might pertain to the interests of posters in this thread: http://www.southernhospitality.co.uk/blog/?p=10629

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, August 9, 2010 3:30 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

there's some joints on here that would've made my list -- there's also some utter crap, but i'm gonna download

yeah that mix has some jams besides the 4 that are also on my list, but it's also full of the sort of stuff i strenuously avoided and could've written essays about why they aren't on the list

the only song I really hate on this list is Luv You Better, cuz I can just imagine LL Cool J performing it with a single tear like the Indian from that one old commercial...

btw there are some good mixtapes out there with every Fabolous R&B feature, every Jadakiss R&B feature, etc.

isnt the song called 'addictive'?

― max, Monday, August 9, 2010 2:31 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if im voting 'favorite' than yeah that but in terms of 'best rap/r&b crossover'... i dunno man that doesnt feel like a crossover, rakim owns that track so hard he makes all of truth hurts verses sound like an extended intro

― max, Monday, August 9, 2010 2:32 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i fucked that up, i always think Rakim is saying "addicted" in his verse and get the title wrong. anyway there's a lot of stuff on this list that doesn't totally jibe with the overall concept and spirit but i just kind of kept to the basic frame of a) i like it and b) it features an R&B singer singing and a rapper rapping (only abandoned this for the Snoop and Cee-Lo songs where they rap and sing, and the Diddy/Keyshia song where they both just sing). a lot of songs COULD have fit on here and been interesting conversation pieces but i just didn't like them enough.

oh i wasnt criticizing it being on the list it definitely counts, i was making a more general point about the extent to which rakim murders that shit

totally disagree that rakim steals the show from truth hurts, it's a great verse but her performance is amazing too

yeah idk, i feel like she's window dressing for dope production and an amazing guest verse

nah not at all, relistening now and she's definitely as much the focal point as anything else - those words could be performed in so many ways along the ingénue/dominatrix spectrum and she pitches it perfectly between in-charge feline prowling and on-edge creeping powerlessness. the way she ups the ante on every line of the second verse alone is awe-inspiring - if anything's the climax of the song it's that verse.

Voted for "Slow Jamz," although reading this thread the other day put "Can't Let You Go" in my head.

yeah i had forgotten how much i love "can't let you go"

lex are u really trynna argue that effin truth hurts was on par with rakim

thats like hearing a bleek guest verse on a mary j blige song & saying he holds his own

that rakim verse is stupid. cannot in anyway get along with his rakim escobar change up.

hop out the suicides lookin so cobain

― J0rdan S., Monday, August 9, 2010 1:47 AM (19 hours ago)

not to get all shippers up in here but the suicide/cobain pun is approaching "bullshit"/"pulpit" levels

i mean granted the song is from a few years ago now

yeah but that's a dope use of it

the best fab line in years is from TNIC when he goes "i'm in the car, mellow, fuckin with that la la"