funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

oh it's that one! i've heard it on some illmana mix. the singer is kyra (not to be confused with kyla), who also did that amazing vocal of lil silva's "different". yes it's terrific, it'll just take some time to supplant the earworminess of ill blu's "say yes".

so, now that there actually are a fair number of funky tracks available for purchase in some way or another, anyone have recommendations? especially since funky seems to be pretty poor at marketing itself (e.g. major notes' album = google black hole). the last thing i bought from ukfunky.com was emvee's 'great high' ep, and while i appreciate their track samples, the "[producer] with the UK Funky track [track]" formula is pretty tired - but there is lots of great looking stuff!

From ukfunky.com be sure to get:

Royal P - Between Us
Ill Blu - Time To Get Nasty
Swift Jay - Toppa 5
Undisputed - Sunglasses
Delerious - Truthful
Shystie - Pull It Wheel It (Ill Blu Remix)
Magic Touch Productions - Take Over
Seany B - Stompa
Highly Rated Ent. - Back (Funky Boy Remix)
Lil' Silva - Different
Funky Underground - Dub Boy
Big Kidd Productions - Boomting (Dub)
Moony - Donnie
Kris Baya - Heartbreaker (Ill Blu Remix)
Drew Austin - Swingers
N10-Tainment - I Pray
Naughty Raver - Tease Me (After Dark Remix)
Major Notes - Friend of Mine
Smoove Kriminal - Thumpin' (actually pretty much all the Smoove Kriminal tracks up there sound great, he seems to upload only his swirly dreamy material)

can someone with a twitter acc do me a favour and get onto mike delinquent and ask him to 1/ stop fucking moaning!!!!!!! and 2/ if he's gonna release 'say yes' cos it's the best thing he's ever done and life is passing it by

― r|t|c, Thursday, August 5, 2010 7:07 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

would read rtc twitter

um, who was behind the spizzazzz twitter then?

domino effect - crazy cousins rmx (((d-_-b)))

i like much of what i've heard from this genre, but i don't know enough about it. this compilation -- on the "insatiable music" label -- supposedly is a collection of funky, grime and bassline songs.

http://mp3passion.net/uploads/posts/1252572496_supa_dupa.jpg

is it legitimate (not knockoff or unsanctioned, low-quality copies) and, if so, is it good? (big investment by emusic standards (69 credits)).

it's legit and there are some amazing tracks on it - haven't got the whole thing but have topped up my own collection with many mp3s from it over time (and lately itunes and 7digital have started selling a lot of them as stand-alone, unmixed tracks)

im digging these dj reflex mixes. hella cheesy fun

'louder' by katy b is standard 4/4 beats meets r'n'b tactics. vocals on the forefront (not surprising if it's something from the upcoming album, tho). is it produced by geeneus or zinc?

...first post, btw

been listening to the old jungle as u know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0KuaXB84K0

just gonna put this here and say nuffin.

and neither should you i might add.

so this petchy (peeeetchyyyy, peeeetchyyyy) set man put up on the dissensh is cracking good fun - was decidely unsure about the crispy guy after he committed the unspoken cardinal sin of rhyming funky with chunky monkey but "some gal said i look like krishnan guru / murthy, that's why the gally wanna murk me" won me over in the end.

nerd-wise the very first track on the set with the topsee vocal is LIVE.

looks like we're gonna have to go back to taping marcus every week the way success has gone to the rinse podcast ppl's heads btw.

rusty (hello, hi) - acc to lex 'louder' is a zinc number; it came up here rolling uk urban pop thread originally but the thread remits aren't set in stone obv.

deej - tnx boo i guess but then i'd only be tweeting for you guys' benefit anyway so...

lex - not me! but at a crazy guess i should imagine the other spz ppl would be behind it? good to see them back btw.

that jungle track feels like a coincidence imo altho not on the level of crediting jungle for timbaland

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VvHi7AwQIg

^^^ Heard this refix of "We No Speak Americano" sans Maxwell D in the latest Marcus Nasty set (11 August), which is slamming. I'm hoping the presence of Shantie again signals this will be a semi regular thing. Also love love love the remix of Undisputed's "Terror" that appears shortly afterwards.

Don't say I give nothing back!

Maxwell D - Funky Soprano (We No Speak Americano Refix):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/l7tgl9

downloading, though i think i hate the og "we no speak americano" :/

wasnt too into that, the interminable maxwell d chat version at least. now i hear it again the steelpan later on is nice but i dunno.

bugger, so it was just the old rinse rss feed that was tardy then!! guess that's my afternoon sorted...

and yeah deej no of course i wasn't saying that's anything more than coincidental! but it is quite fun on a "if you can't join nuum, beat nuum (with its own stick)" tip i think, especially what with that being like 1991 proto-jungle if i understand things correctly.

Listen to the marcus set, I reckon the Americano refix sounds better as an instrumental for other MCs than with Maxwell. It's one of the most hyper moments in the 11 August set.

nerd-wise the very first track on the set with the topsee vocal is LIVE.

can i just quadruple underline this btw - also on closer listening it interpolates wamdue's 'king of my castle'! must find this tune! (will zshare later if need be.)

actually now's as good a time - put ya money where ya mouf is, king of the castle, not the type that bounces

yeah fair dos, the americano does indeed sound a 100x hotter in the set. i've still got an inordinate fondness for that shimmering placid jazzy riddim that kicks off the vocal section though, such an awesome vehicle for mcs (even the rubbish ramzee guy).

really really like the new screama vocal that kicks the set off ("i used to be a tomboy - i had to switch!") and, most of all, the (new?) vocal version of funkystepz 'trinity hill' at 25 minutes which i will assume features lily mackenzie and is called 'set me free' - anyone pining for the stately elegance of wookie/ny's 'falling again' should check it out.

listened to a funkystepz set as well - the 'hype hype' refix seems to have been a marker for their sound settling down to a general sticky-ish carnivalesque i think. they've also done a refix of the equinoxx's new jim screechie riddim, which erm... i am noting down... for the benefit of... the internet... i guess. but it's very them, as modern riddims go, and i like how quick they were to grab it.

haha, youtube comments that are otm:

ShakesSTACCkaKes 1 day ago
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yeah fair dos, the americano does indeed sound a 100x hotter in the set. i've still got an inordinate fondness for that shimmering placid jazzy riddim that kicks off the vocal section though, such an awesome vehicle for mcs (even the rubbish ramzee guy).

The one that sounds like a kind of arty instrumental version of the Perempay "Be Your Girl" remix you mean?

It's weird, ramzee has one or two good rhymes which he deploys, and I like it when he sings near the end, but the rest of the time it sounds like he's really not trying.

His voice would work well for an MC except that there are 5847 bassline MCs with exactly the same voice.

really really like the new screama vocal that kicks the set off ("i used to be a tomboy - i had to switch!") and, most of all, the (new?) vocal version of funkystepz 'trinity hill' at 25 minutes which i will assume features lily mackenzie and is called 'set me free' - anyone pining for the stately elegance of wookie/ny's 'falling again' should check it out.

^^^ Endorse all of this. I always loved "Trinity Hill" but as an instrumental it's the kind of tune that doesn't leap out at you unless you've fully absorbed funky's operating principles IMO, nice to see it get a second life as a vocal tune.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/1612002-02.htm

been bopping along compulsively to this the last few days - lr really is in the highest echelon of funky producers, just terrifically adroit.

also been reading reynolds' fucking brilliant and still ultra-relevant footnotes to feminine pressure, which i don't think i'd ever seen before - or at least i hope not, cos i feel like i've been more or less been repeating the main thrust of it most of it for ages haha (#12!!!) (16, 17, 18, 19 also crucial). kind of bewildering to think how out of hand nuum acolytes n' arguments have been in the past while this has always existed; kind of sad how much of a silly old goat simey is now in comparison.

about to stick the new marcus on now if anyone fancies it.

btw ill blu randomly uploaded a bunch of their remixes on twitter - http://www.sendspace.com/file/oea8a0 - all of which i'd actually spent time ~hunting down~, sigh, though i'd never heard the hot chip one (surprisingly good) or their own "roll with me" track.

Yes been meaning to buy the LR Groove EP...

Meanwhile Feminine Pressure (and in partic the footnotes) is one of my absolute favourite pieces of music crit ever, I basically maintain allegiance to the underlying notion of the continuum by relying on its definition here and ignoring all subsequent attempts at redefinition, esp. post-grime (which weirdly ruined nuum-crit by turning it into its opposite).

I read that at the same time I was actually discovering garage (via The Dreem Teem In Session II, "Sweet Like Chocolate", Locked On's CD singles, "My Desire" - this was the sum total of what I was able to find in circa June 1999 in Australia sadly) and it pretty much sent my entire thinking about music in a new direction.

Been listening to a DJ Ramsey (of Ramsey & Fen) and MC Kie Magic FM set from Feb 1999 and thinking about how different my experience of 2-step would have been if the whole internet infrastructure had been as developed then as it is now.

http://www.factmag.com/2010/08/27/the-ever-brilliant-kyla-covers-aaliyahs-at-your-best-download-inside/

not sure if the ppl at fact know this wasnt an aaliyah original but anyway, its lovely by default, though ultimately about as necessary as the sa-ra cover of just like a baby. never heard kyla in this sort of context.

THIS FUCKING TUNE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOcefsTgbhE

Vocal tune of the year??

Also love the grainy late 80s feel of the video clip.

Vocal tune of the year??

aye. been hearing that tune in just about every set lately and it's just now smacking me in the face with how solid its actual songcraft is.

'llow the stepping on vinyl tho.

that tune is very catchy...

New Marcus set (3 September) is fantastic. Dude seems so much more consistent this year. Check:

1. That very tribal Baby Faced Jay tune.

2. That brief snatch of a "Creeper" refix.

3. Lewi White's awesome "Sounds of the Future" (nice to see this guy making funky).

Set is just with Shantie on the mic.

really diggin' 'it's what you do'. lovely.

ot : some weeks ago i found a track called 'magaluuf' credited to devine recordings (more accurately madone). really love the tune (breezy with a tropical/longing kinda vibe). has anyone heard it? fake, perhaps?

righto, catching up.

hi rusty, no it's there on one of their myspaces - http://www.myspace.com/djjewlsy - i agree, it's great, although it would be nice to have ever heard it in a set. actually i feel like loads of producers do at least one tropicalia type tune that they just file away and forget about (besides funkystepz i guess).

while we're on the subject, v glad to hear marcus play 'touch her in the morning' again after a brief hiatus during this most recent set - it will never get the acclaim of a 'house girls' but nothing, i repeat nothing, brings the pure vibes of those first few melancholic piano keys lengthening over the end of a track, like nosferatu's shadow before he sinks his teeth in suddenly. and i love how sung male vocals seemingly have to be so maudlin like that in funky (even when they might be talking about sex same as anyone) - carnao, the drake remix, and this great recent "can't see my way back" one round the hour mark here. perhaps this and not the general americanism was why smoove kriminal's horace brown remix seemed to strike a false note somewhere, however good it was.

oh also i think the 'creeper' refix is by mad one too but i can't remember how i mightve come to that conclusion now - it has been around on the internet for a while. i like it but i am weirdly grateful that it doesn't seem to get played more than it does if you know what i mean; too nuum-y.

haha talking of which, it took a visit to dissensus before i realised tim was subtly fashioning a BANANARANUUM with all the fives praise - i like it! (and it's probably a lot better than bringing 'inflation' and melissa bell's daughter winning x-factor into it at any rate.)

the song is good too, although 1/ i reject any vocal tune of the year talk when farah 'kiss me' still lives, and 2/ i have tended to overlook its value in suspicion of its equal weight in what i perceive as the mildly lame 80s retro mistajam/timmy mallett kids tv presenter urban media culture a la swindle's 'no more' and stuff; the video and sense of general undue professionalism bear this out i feel. but maybe i should just lighten up instead.

the idea's got legs though: how's about this forgotten lot for a modern fun girl three?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AYa5sxRWRA

http://www.discogs.com/Bananarama-Tripping-On-Your-Love/release/464818

i'd love to be able to now announce B1 as a highly relevant big deal but alas it is cobblers.

while we're on the subject, v glad to hear marcus play 'touch her in the morning' again after a brief hiatus during this most recent set - it will never get the acclaim of a 'house girls' but nothing, i repeat nothing, brings the pure vibes of those first few melancholic piano keys lengthening over the end of a track, like nosferatu's shadow before he sinks his teeth in suddenly. and i love how sung male vocals seemingly have to be so maudlin like that in funky (even when they might be talking about sex same as anyone) - carnao, the drake remix, and this great recent "can't see my way back" one round the hour mark here. perhaps this and not the general americanism was why smoove kriminal's horace brown remix seemed to strike a false note somewhere, however good it was.

Can you describe the "Can't see my way back" tune more? It's jogging something in my memory but I'm not getting a fully-formed picture.

haha talking of which, it took a visit to dissensus before i realised tim was subtly fashioning a BANANARANUUM with all the fives praise - i like it! (and it's probably a lot better than bringing 'inflation' and melissa bell's daughter winning x-factor into it at any rate.)

the song is good too, although 1/ i reject any vocal tune of the year talk when farah 'kiss me' still lives, and 2/ i have tended to overlook its value in suspicion of its equal weight in what i perceive as the mildly lame 80s retro mistajam/timmy mallett kids tv presenter urban media culture a la swindle's 'no more' and stuff; the video and sense of general undue professionalism bear this out i feel. but maybe i should just lighten up instead.

"It's What You Do" feels like a potential crossover hit whereas "Kiss Me" is forever an underground anthem I suspect - also, straightforwardly ecstatic versus U&K narrative/persona/vocal tics - "Kiss Me" is almost too involving to be just a "vocal tune", though OTOH maybe I'm only saying that because "I Won't Lose" ("I Can't Lose"? Which is it?) builds on Farah's story so.

Re Bananaranuum - I'm imagining a DJ Naughty cover of "Cruel Summer" now.

Also, point of order: "It's What You Do" is a billion times better than "No More".

what, no

"it's what you do" is vg though, and a billion times better than "kiss me", though i'm not definite on the latter yet as a paltry two minutes in the middle of a mix is no way to judge a song. why are these songs not available.

I like "No More" a lot but it's like:

It's What You Do: 10/10
Kiss Me: 9.9/10
No More: 7/10

I'll let r|t|c explain himself but I suspect he's doing a roundabout dismissal of "No More" for its smartened up proper black UK pop qualities, which I think "It's What You Do" lacks on the whole except in the sense of a well-done video clip (really the diva is pretty superficial seeming and totally disinterested in being there let alone emoting - I love this!).

"Kiss Me" doesn't have this at all (it's positively erm "earthy") which elevates it to the top of the heap under this schema.

But it's only, um, tendentially reliable. Lest we forget MJ Cole's "Crazy Love" was actually one of the finest songs of the 2-step era, as good as (though not better than) the more schematically appropriate "Girls Like Us". And I think the same can be true of funky.

You'll probably hate me for saying this Lex but I suspect the charm of "Kiss Me" is most apparent in the way it seems to rise to the top of so many different mixes, radio sets etc, it's more satisfying the more (and the more contexts in which) you hear it.

Also, yes, lots of love for "Lost In Your House". On some emotional/allegiances/barracking level I'm all for Miss Fire/Van Kleef and Farah et. al.

Hey also what's that Greyman tune with the really emotive Booka Shade-ish synth chords in it? It was in the recent Petchy/Topsee set posted on Dissensus. Reminds me a bit of my great lost funky tune sampling Jagged Edge ("Rolling down the / lonely highway / asking God to / PLEASE FORGIVE ME!") that I have arbitrarily attributed to Target.

yeah "no more" is pretty "can imagine nadia suliman doing this with a live band at the jazz café", so what? that slightly upmarket/aspirational/classy aesthetic has always been present in funky. and it suits the song's wash-this-man-right-outta-my-hair theme.

"it's what you do" took quite a few listens to grow on me, but once it did it was really amazing.

oh, i saw petchy at wifey the other night, it was really good. i can't remember much of what he played beyond the obvious though.