funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

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haha tim i will never fathom yr fondness for that terrible jamaican patient spiel.

appears malice is our 'gabreille' dubber btw:

http://www.myspace.com/diamondindaruffproductions

Wake me up when the Funky House 'Junior Spesh' rolls into view....

-- linea, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 15:15 (Yesterday) Link

roll into view you say?

Well, 'wearing my rolex' charted...

I'd tend to think 'underground' is kind of an irrelevant descriptor for this stuff. It's populist music that isn't popular yet.

-- J@cob, Thursday, July 3, 2008 8:25 AM (12 hours ago)

It is very underground. It doesn't have much of a foothold anywhere outside of London at all and even their it's not the main thing going on.

And "Wearing my Rolex" doesn't really have much to do with this to my ears (just straight up electro-house really, surely?).

ozzie b checks in

(tune sounds a lot better in the middle of the "Marcus, Sharkey P and L.E.V. Ayia Napa Send Off" set above)

unless it's real... jungle funky i don't wanna hear it. i can't stand that fast fake ass dance music that sounds about 10 years too slow

i want a jam i can shake my shoulders to and circle around moving weight. vibrate, etc. i don't want some corny shitty breakbeat alternating while some fag samples horns without any high complexity much less meaningfun resolution. i hate this genre

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9821/bongomadnessrg2.gif

want

Loving Apple's "Bean Get Well Soon". The track on his myspace labeled "SAMPLE of wots to come" is interesting with its combination of funky-styled drums and bassline-style...bassline.

suppose it would be shortsighted to find mc versatile's work on TEH FUNKY ANTHEM (aka 'gabryelle' x crazy cousinz x shout-pouts to everyone in the scene) a tad embarassing huh

haha 'shout-pouts'... shout-pouts to all my homies 4real

maybe it's just cos marcus then follows with the gorgeous murk of geeneus 'piece of heaven' right after

also yeah, what is that hott analogue dialtone salsa bubbler that goes "get on - the floor!"

Trying to think of a track that could actually be described as a series of "shout-pouts".

Maybe Skepta's shock claim "Soulja Boy can't dance like me."

Isn't Teh Funky Anthem really an MC version of Crazi Cousinz (superior) "High Heels" - the one that goes "I got my high heels on, and the DJ is playing my favourite song. I'm sipping on JD, and i admit I am feeling a little tipsy..."

Hoping I never live to see a house track offering a shout-pout to Jim Beam though.

xpost: RTC that's Delio D’Cruz ft. K Cat – Get On The Floor

duh ok! still terrible with names right now... don't recall that 'high heels' being quite as stabby but i shall defer.

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2008/07/ma1-28th-june.html
http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2008/07/dj-ng-27th-june.html

been enjoying these most recent ma1 and ng rinse sets also. they are not nearly as kaleidoscopical as the prime marcus cuts or anything, but still some good head-down deep snaking skanking business i feel.

hah i think between funky and riding for bbe and whatnot on the other thread i might be going thru some sort of "once and future king of west london" jazzy herb phase.

btw if anyone missed that marcus 1xtra allstar mix from last week i done nicked it and can put up if need be. ooh hello it's a mj cole mix now!

If it would not be too much trouble that'd be rad. I only got to the first hour.

here

here also is a vid from the frontlines of the dangerous living room afterparty scene.

(busy signal 'step out' over 'leader' though :DDDDD)

smoovie t linked to this thread on his myspace blog

although yeah we're not likely to see vocal versions of Roska or Apple tunes any time soon.

there's at least this version of 'apple bubble'

Marcus and Rankin on Deja Vu 28.06.08: http://www.sendspace.com/file/5vk5c5

Got a track id on the ravey one about 15 minutes in?

It does mystify me that there isn't more of a groundswell of support for this stuff. There's, like, 5 regulars on this thread? Grime got much more of a response from ILX/the world at large.

Am I the only one who thinks this music is clearly as exciting as that was? (probaby even more so?)

Where are the epic Simon Reynolds thinkpieces eh.

-- Tim F, Wednesday, July 2, 2008 10:00 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link

to be honest, i think its probably good we dont have these things??

Deej the issue here is genuine enthusiasm for what's being discussed. Reynolds' piece on 2-step for The Wire in 1999 was so good that I've spent the last 9 years writing roundabout homages to it.

Yes but arguably 2step in 1999 was at the culmination of 2-3 years of development and refinement of its basic structures and sounds. It was so much more fully formed as an aesthetic and a scene than 'funky' is right now.

Right now it's much more like when people were talking about 'sunday scene' and 'RIPGroove' first came out and the potential that had to eventually evolve into 2step.

Also, re: dubstep - if you place the origins of the sound with Horsepower and Ghost and Hatcha then it probably didn't get its 'media break' until at least 2 years later, once Skream broke big...

I mean don't get me wrong I think funky does suffer from being too girly/commercial sounding for most crits/bloggers to get excited about it, but it's also early days.

that song on the 1xtra marcus nasty mix @ 54:20 is great - anyone got a title?

this is a totally ilx-ish reference but it reminds me of luciano's "madre mother mere" or whatever it was called

ha it goes into an opera-y singing thing that sounds perfectly all over the place in a basement jaxx way. or maybe thats the next song?

and the vocal track @ 61:10 is killin it too

Ha ha Jess said to me in an e-mail that he really wants to hear the funky house track I described as sounding like Cadenza + Bounty Killer samples.

I will make some attempts at track IDs this evening folks - thanks for posting those mixes rtc and jacob!

"Right now it's much more like when people were talking about 'sunday scene' and 'RIPGroove' first came out and the potential that had to eventually evolve into 2step."

I dunno, couldn't you say the "sunday scene" moment was when "The Cure & The Cause" first blew up? I don't know whether these scenes map on to one another timewise really, but if I had to guess I'd say this is the equivalent of 1998 for 2-step.

Ha ha let's do track equivs:

"The Whole Night (Crazi Cousinz Mix)" = "My Desire (Dreem Teem Mix)"
"Feeline" = "Destiny"
"Bongo Jam" = "Straight From The Heart"
"Yellowtail" = "Spirit of the Sun (S. Gurley Mix)"
"Hypnotic" = "Sincere"
"Segalizer" = "Kaotic Madness"
"Leader" = "Madness On The Streets"

deej: http://youtube.com/watch?v=D8e4iWhQHYc

('live wire', nice try marcus!)

quite neat that rose windross should find herself in the midst of all this really.

and yeah otm it is very jaxxy indeed what with the fake capleton-sounding guy in there as well

also 61:10 vocal: http://www.myspace.com/djperempay

http://www.myspace.com/urbance - i like this new 'to be vocalled soon i hope' melancholy banger on ng's page

(amazing pink bruise sunrise in ldn right now giving me a cheapo napa moment haha)

j@cob you notice the bit in your ravey one where it goes "mario play the bloodclaat bass"? yeah.

I mean don't get me wrong I think funky does suffer from being too girly/commercial sounding for most crits/bloggers to get excited about it, but it's also early days.

Dissensus/Wire-types are mystifyingly into Rustie and aquacrunk/wonky or whatevs rather than this stuff.

xpost: thanks!

Nobody else pick up on that tune? It's doing something quite different with the cheap synth sounds apple uses...

Yeah "Mario Play The Bloodlclart" (that ravey tune) is great! The use of the synths feels like an extension on a kind of perky carnivalesque siren thing that quite a few tunes do - see Baby Faced Jay's "Tribal Zone" for example.

Carnivalesque = Jaxxy?

Jaxx:Funky :: Todd Edwards:2step?

Yes! This is why I'm hoping Basement Jaxx get counter-inspired on their next album and return to their roots a bit (and abandon their pointless recent attempts to beat nu-rave at its own game).

APHRODISIAX - UNFINISHED BUSINESS

OMG this is so fucking next level.

It's like a funky equiv. of James Lavonz's "Mash Up Da Venue" or the Bump & Flex Dancehall Dub of "All I Do".

Check the myspace for a sample:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=368460659

Actually it sorta sounds almost like IDM in isolation - better in the mix where its essential housiness shines through.

Their "Keep it Moving" is also massive, though again I didn't quite realise it till I heard it in the mix - in Footloose's show for this week.

Also on that mix, Bearfoot Monk's "Wearwolf" is another so-wired-it's-almost-IDM track - makes me think of The Black Dog.

Great Arms Remix of Lloyd's "How We Do It In The A" too.

that Aphrodisiax track reminds me a lot of early Luciano, but ruffffer. which is a really really good thing!

feeling that Producer Mario track a very very great deal. is he the one behind that tune which samples Jagged Edge?

big up once again all of you guys bringing the sets and knowledge, massive appreciation

Marcus Nasty on 1xtra is sounding ridiculous

Not really funky, but how nice is Davinche and Tinie Tempah - "Tears"? It's like funky is even re-galvanising grime to become sunnier and more clubby. He even says "Davinche, we bringing grime back to the clubs" in the intro...

(disclaimer goes here if this track is actually like 6 months old)

Fuck the current Footloose show is so good. Get on it before it disappears in maybe 24 hours or so!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/footloose/

Yo does anyone know the identity of that insane remix of "Bongo Jam" on the Marcus Nasty June show with Rankin? Not the DJ Naughty remix or the live version from their myspace, it's kind of rattling funk though.

Also the VIP remix of "Feeline" that's playing on the new Footloose show (follow the link above - it's about three songs in) is just insane.

OMG Dub Boy's "Funky Underground" is more next level shit - those rolling drums!

this Footloose show is amazing, thanks Tim. these guys are demonstrating / cultivating an EMBARRASSMENT of riches. i cannot wait to get myself to a rave

OK, I listened to this crap. Can I have the last eight minutes of my life back?

-- Display Name, Monday, April 21, 2008 9:49 PM (3 months ago) Bookmark Link

lols

(gread stuff in this thread. i always imagine when i open this thread it'll just be a picture of someones ass or something. ok back to yall)

"It does mystify me that there isn't more of a groundswell of support for this stuff. There's, like, 5 regulars on this thread? Grime got much more of a response from ILX/the world at large.

Am I the only one who thinks this music is clearly as exciting as that was? (probaby even more so?)"

No, I'm with you on that. Definite shades of 2003 grime for me but coupled with something I felt I missed by not catching 2-step in the moment. The energy's just too intoxicating. Growing interest has turned into unhealthy obsession for me in the last couple of months.

I only just discovered this gold mine of a discussion though, thanks to Siah I think. Here I was hanging around Dissensus wondering why the Funky thread there was so quiet...