Ministry. S&D.

it's also a shame that jourgensen ruined most skinny puppy tracks he touched.

the "incase you didn't feel like showing up" video, is that the one with ogre and jello in it?

I really like about half of each of the _Land_ and _Mind_ albums - but in spite of liking NWO I never bought _Psalm_ : is it much the same as those 2, or were they getting more Metally and less Machiney ?

The problem with Ministry is that they started making too much money, which probably led to too much drugs.

I thought that was a joke.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/music/2003/05/images/download_150.jpg

Ministry `06 (with Tommy from Prong and Raven from KJ)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/maxmal/sonicranch2.jpg

Tommy Victor did play in Danzig as well, yeah, but I think that was more out of financial necessity.

and I don't get it- I saw Lazarus live over the summer and his set was 100% bouncey electro-house....

"The REVOLTING COCK."

"Heh heh, yeah, must be some strip show.. y' know.. with strippers."

I'm tempted to do a C/D for 'Filth Pig'. I hated it on release and never bothered checking out any of their stuff after that, but once in a while songs pop up on shuffle and they're usually pretty awesome (e.g. last night "Brick Windows")

twitch's rare mentions in this thread is a crime.

WHERE YOU AT NOW

land of rape and honey 4-EVAH

USE IT A WHILE AND IT'S OVER THE SHOULDER

You know, I actually really liked Rio Grande Blood -- not The Last Sucker quite so much though it was still certainly better than a lot of their mid-period (ie Filth Pig and onward).

Just bought Twitch again and I like it okay. Parts of it didn't age well at all.

Again, I wish they'd pulled the plug after Psalm 69.

It bears repearing: "Jesus Built My Hotrod" is utterly unstoppable. Play it loud!

For whatever reason I cannot stop listening to "Hizbollah" today

love the snippet of dubbed out accordian sampled in "where you at now"

Hmmm.

Yeah, I wrote about that here. My memories of that 1990 RevCo show are pretty vivid, so I hope the movie focuses on that period and the year or two immediately prior; by the time they played Lollapalooza they'd already pretty much lost it, IMO.

Lolla 92 was the last time they made any real sense, if only for "N.W.O." and the Bush I samples.

I am in the extreme minority here but, aside from "Burning Inside" and "Faith Collasping", I think they started losing it by A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste. The songs there have a kernel of awesome smothered by repetive bullshit nonsense ("Breathe", "Thieves", "So What", "Test", "Dream Song") or is just flat-out unlistenable ("Cannibal Song", "Never Believe") ans Psalm 69 took everything I hated about AMIATTTT and cranked it up to 100.

thieves =! repetitive bullshit nonsense in any world i live in

I am in the extreme minority here but, aside from "Burning Inside" and "Faith Collasping", I think they started losing it by A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste. The songs there have a kernel of awesome smothered by repetive bullshit nonsense ("Breathe", "Thieves", "So What", "Test", "Dream Song") or is just flat-out unlistenable ("Cannibal Song", "Never Believe") ans Psalm 69 took everything I hated about AMIATTTT and cranked it up to 100.

Yeah, I gotta disagree with pretty much all of this...Psalm 69 was definitely the end of the golden era (though I'll offer another minority opinion, namely that Animositisomina had some very good songs), but there are a couple of solid tracks on it, "Hero" and "Scarecrow" in particular. However, the three singles from Psalm 69 - "NWO," "Jesus Built My Hotrod" and "Just One Fix" - are much, much better in their longer 12"/CD single versions.

I've actually managed to listen to Cannibal Song many, many times. AMIATTTT is peak Ministry imo.

I would like to hear the half-assed Killing Joke melodic bit in the chorus rescued from this song and put in a better one.

From the cheap laughs department:

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Top-rated YouTube commenter on 99 Percenters bringing harsh truths:

Wow.... Just.... Wow. Been a fan through all incarnations since '86. Seen them live a ton of times.. Probably my favorite band of all time. After watching this, ... I'm getting off the crazy train. I thought there were some good tracks on the album, but this just comes off as sheer fucking laziness. It was a great run Al, but please stay true to your word and put this band to bed. Fuck, I never thought I'd join the haters... But this does suck.

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I have a copy of that doc that came out, "Fix" or "Fixed" or w/e...part of me is curious but the rest of me kinda knows this is a thing I probably don't need to watch

A lot of mid-80s industrial is pretty hard to listen to - not because it's too harsh or gritty in the intended way, but because it uses lame mid-80s drum machines and transposed, key-triggered samples.

It sounds like a lot of these bands thought they sounded edgy and counter-cultural, but in retrospect it all sounds like Anne Dudley playing hookey with Ferris Bueller.

what drum machines should they have been using instead? drum machines from the future?

uhhhh Land Of Rape And Honey still pummels me in the face with "lame mid-80's drum machines" also 2) that's not the problem and b) RONG

i LOVE lame mid 80s drum machines.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ministry-guitarist-mike-scaccia-dies-after-onstage-collapse-20121223

r.i.p.

Aww man. RIP. I was actually a fan of Rigor Mortis well before he joined Ministry, dude was pretty speedy.

After not having paid any attention to a Ministry album since Psalm 69 turned me off for good I was mildly curious to hear the new (supposedly last ever) album after reading Al saying that parts of it were inspired by Adrian Sherwood and would put King Tubby to shame on the dub front. Needless to say King Tubby can rest in his grave without having to worry that his techniques have been usurped by Al and Sherwood must be chuckling into his mixing desk at how bad it is. The "dub" bits make No Doubt seem like Prince Far I at his heaviest in comparison. Cod dub!

haha at you falling for it and checking it out!

There is never any compelling reason to listen to anything Ministry released after 1989.

yup, what a sucker! at least i maintain my *cough*youthful*cough* optimism / naiveté. xp

put King Tubby to shame on the dub front

this is just a shameful thing for anyone to claim

Well, King Tubby is dead, so maybe it's just a matter of parsing tense.

Had no idea this was completed or released but man, some harrowing (heroin) stuff:

http://vimeo.com/91347991

No matter how tempted you are, do not try and read Al's book.

Thanks for the warning. I'm always on the lookout for a good trashy drug band bio. What's bad about it?

Yeah, it's bad. I can't even remember enough about it to pick it apart, but it was just...dull.

It's dull because it's full of bullshit stories (some of which are patently not true) only told to make Al the greatest bestest drug taker ever. An awful lot of them have something "nearly" happen and there's a preponderance of casual racism, homophobia and rape culture that is sometimes glorified but at a minimum glossed over and excused with another anecdote where he has a token gay or black friend (invariably who he never mentions again).

i kind of almost enjoyed it even though i was fully aware it was BS. his treatise on economics at the end was complete and utter nonsense though; he patently thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is or maybe he has genuinely fried his brain. i read chris connelly's book immediately after which is way better.

Yeah, I read Chris Connelly's first but it seemed so skewed to making out Al was a complete dick that I thought I'd read this for balance. Instead it reinforces some of the conclusions you make from the other book.

everyone otm

So this week, Ministry (via Cleopatra Records) posted a previously unreleased live album on Bandcamp. It's called Live Necronomicon, and it's about 85 minutes long - there's a double vinyl edition that may already be sold out, and then a digital version. No CDs. Anyway, according to this piece on Slicing Up Eyeballs, it's basically the raw tapes from In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up, with a few Jello Biafra spoken-word bits and a version of Revolting Cocks' "Stainless Steel Providers" excised. Note that In Case... had a lot of studio overdubs, which are absent here, making the music much more overtly metallic and placing the vocals a lot higher in the mix. The set list includes their covers of Public Image Ltd.'s "Public Image" and Skinny Puppy's "Smothered Hope," and versions of Pailhead's "No Bunny" and "Man Should Surrender" and Lard's "The Power of Lard" and "Hellfudge." It's really good, and worth your nine bucks.

Chris Connelly lives by me. I see him all the time with his family, in full suburban dad mode.

Search: With Sympathy

Ministry Visual History Book
Ministry: Prescripture Announced Today

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Out December 6, Read About the Book via Rolling Stone

Includes 7 inch of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)

The book features an introduction by Jello Biafra and exclusive quotes from members of Smashing Pumpkins, ZZ Top, Cheap Trick, NWA, Ramones, Nine Inch Nails, Tool, Megadeth, AFI, Slayer, Jane’s Addiction, Rammstein, The Flaming Lips, Devo, Butthole Surfers, Static-X, Anthrax, White Zombie, Death Grips, Bauhaus, Killing Joke, High on Fire, GWAR, Einstürzende Neubauten, Revolting Cocks, and many more!

Various packages available for pre-order include copies autographed by Al Jourgensen and the author, Aaron Tanner and a 7” of the studio version of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)!

LIMITED-RUN OF 2000
9" X 9" casebound, pages TBD
PUBLISHED: December 6, 2019
PRE-ORDER: September 18, 2019
ISBN: 978-0-578-56212-4

Includes 7 inch of "(Every Day Is) Halloween (Acoustic)” featuring Dave Navarro (Jane’s Addiction)

that's a "no" from me, dawg

^ otm

only $150

Al finally makes his peace with

....With Sympathy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU6-uMVECRE