Pearl Jam - No Code

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I like this album for the same reason I like the last Blink 182 album; overambitious showboat drummer gets let loose to wank all over what might have been much less interesting (to me) otherwise.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Well now I DEFINITELY have to play this tomorrow.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link

and I can definitely see the Durst/Vedder logic. Both reached their apex on their band's third album ("Bugs" = Ben Stiller)

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

haha ok come back to the thread and share your reactions! the album's almost over so I'm running out of things to say. (xp)

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link

ok now I have to take the Durst/Vedder parallel to its extreme and turn this into a PICTURE THREAD

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/p/Pearl_Jam/sq-vedder-free-concert-92-mtv.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

http://silencio.weblog.com.pt/images/EddieVedder_blue.gif

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/398944.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Vedder entry in Wikipedia

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

WEIRD AL YANKOVIC LYRICS
"My Baby's In Love With Eddie Vedder"

Oh, my baby, my baby she don't want me no more
Ever since she saw his poster in that record store
She says the way he grinds his molars is really sexy
She thinks he's so darn dysfunctional and "Generation X"y
She likes his brooding angst and his wild-eyed stare
Yeah, he's her very favorite slacker multi-millionaire

Well, my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
She's all crazy 'bout that Eddie Vedder
Once she was mine, but now I better just forget her
'Cause my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder

Now, every time I see him, well, he looks so grim
I guess it really must suck to be a rock star like him
What a pain in the butt to have so much success
Spending all his time moping and avoiding the press
But my girl can't get enough of his sullen demeanor
Like he's some big tortured genious and I'm some kinda wiener

Well, my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
She's got a thing for that Eddie Vedder
Tell me, what can he do that I can't do better
Now my baby's in love with
I said I said I said my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
Head over heels for that Eddie Vedder
I cant believe it, now she's knitting him a sweater
'Cause my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder

I knew we were headin' for disaster
When she caught me hangin' out at the Ticketmaster
Now she's got an unrequited adoratioon
For the frustrated, agitated, designated alienated
Spokesman for the disaffected grunge generation

Well, I don't wear Doc MArtens and I don't wear flannel
And I don't boycott the music video channel
And I just can't compete with all that money and fame
But I know two can play at this game
Yeah, well, let's just see how jealous she'll get
When I start stalking Alanis Morissette

Well, my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
She's all crazy 'bout that Eddie Vedder
Once she was mine but now I better just forget her
'Cause my baby's in love with
I said I said I said my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder
Why'd she have to fall for that Eddie Vedder
If she wants to leave me, I guess I better let her
'Cause my baby's in love with Eddie Vedder

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I loved this album as a twelve year old. I don't listen to it much anymore (last time was probably a few years ago), but I doubt I'll ever sell it.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

http://images.quizilla.com/T/Teabeard/1046458216_dsensitive.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.98rock.com/timages/page/eddie_vedder_GI.jpg

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

2xpost, dear god bring in the white lions.

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

actually a rutger hauer joke would have been better there.

f--gg (gcannon), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I was just spending the last 15 minutes cataloguing maps and thinking about all the crazy hair-styles vedder has had! eerie.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish I could find more Vedder mohawk pictures besides ones from the RnR Hall of Fame induction of the Ramones. I remember one time seeing a great picture of him with the mohawk playing a ukelele.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link

wasn't he supposed to keep the mohawk till there was peace, Johnny "Man In Black" Cash style?

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago) link

pearl jam's second best album!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I dunno I never heard that but that's awesome (xp)

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

what's the 1st?

albums I'd consider No Code being maybe 2nd to: Vitalogy, and um...maybe Yield...maybe Vs.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

OH THOSE FABULOUS PHILLIES

Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

haha yeah that caught my eye too

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry so eddy, but Local H's "Eddie Vedder" >> Pearl Jam

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I almost posted the lyrics to that before I found the Yankovic lyrics.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

except maybe "Jeremy." I'll know the the lyrics to that one when I'm 80. How could I forget...

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

vitalogy's first!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

good call!

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i thought for the longest time the lyrics to 'jeremy' were "jeremy spokane / class today". cuz they're from seattle.

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~rmleyden/Music_files/image003.gif

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

THE SERPENT WAS SUBTLE

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

THE SERPENT WAS SUBTIL

one thing I remember seeming novel (when I was 12, bear with me) about Vedder was that bellow. I'd never heard anyone so emotional, so involved in the singing. I have to assume it will be at least 20 years before a 12 year old can say that again.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

and i thought til just now the lyrics went "from the black hole"!

j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oh shit I knew it was spelled like "subtil" or something like that

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago) link

holy shit me and Al are on mindmeld mode here.

(x-post yet again)

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i think its safe to say he was the most influential rock singer of the 90s. i have to imagine he's not happy about it.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

he seems to be more pissed about people biting Layne Staley's style: http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858492607

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

although that song is a hidden track on Lost Dogs at the end of "Bee Girl", so it's kind of a split tribute to Layne Staley and the girl from the Blind Melon video.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 13 March 2005 23:59 (nineteen years ago) link

haha first google hit for "the serpent was subtil" is a Pitchfork review of the best-of.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I used to really like this album. I'm listening to it again for the first time in umpteen years. I have the nine-cards version. Apparently which cards you got was just random. Anyone got a theory about the artwork?
Random thoughts:

- The first track is great and I remember learning the simple guitar part as one of the first tunes I learnt to play. Hail, Hail kinda ruins the effect and I always skip that song.

- Tracks like Who You Are and I'm Open along with a lot of what was on Vitalogy really make me wonder why Pearl Jam have gone down in history as the "safe" AOR alternative to Nirvana who were wild and crazy. Nirvana rocked for sure but after the first two albums Pearl Jam were making some pretty odd recordings. Who Are You is NOT a grunge song for fucks sake. It's barely even a rock song.

- Off He Goes does sound like Bruce Springsteen. Very maudling.

- Red Mosquito used to be used as the background music for Talk Radio.

- Lukin is PROPER ROCKING!!!

- Around The Bend is Pearl Jam's All The Time In The World

- I'm Open is cringeworthy but I thought it was cool when I was 15.

errr... and those are my rubbish notes.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 14 March 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

oh yeah, this is my favorite pj record too. have fond memories of driving to the middle of nowhere w/ this as a soundtrack.

sometimes -> smile is great. dead spots = "i'm open" and the last two or three trax.

never saw why pearl jam were considered a third-rate nirvana--they always sounded much more like a third-rate neil young + crazy horse to me.

fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

When I finally heard it I thought it quite good. I've only heard it the once, though. (Like every PJ album after the first two.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link

This and "Vitalogy" are their best. "Off He Goes," "Hail Hail," and "Present Tense" may give the PJ haters some pause.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone got a theory about the artwork

I'm sure you realized this, but if you fold the cardboard digipak so it lays flat, you can see the outline of a pyramid with an eye in the middle.

Jeff Reguilon (Talent Explosion), Monday, 14 March 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i never ever listen to this album but i really dig my vinyl copy. the packaging is amazing with all the weird color photos on thick glossy paper. musta cost them a pretty penny to make. and i bought mine new for, like, 2 bucks.they had a zillion of them at the old 3rd street jazz store for some reason.(same place i bought multiple original sealed copies of kain's blue guerilla album for a dollar apiece. they had boxes of them for some reason.) i've probably only played it twice, but i've often shown people the cool graphics.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I like this one but Yield and Vitalogy are better. Also, I heart Binaural. (but not Riot Act. Ugh.)

Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah Binaural was solid but Riot Act was pretty dire.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't snooze on Riot Act!!!! Matt Cameron songs are not to be denied!

Man, I'm really surprised about the Vitalogy luv, as, from what I recall, there were a few stunt tracks ("Bugs", "foxymophandlefivedollars") that perved the rest of the batch. And "Nothingman" did no damn thang for moi. But, yeah, most of it is nice.

I'm a Yield / Binaural man, myself (w/ Binaural as the better album, but Yield being my fave), & No Code is close behind. Bless you, Al.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 14 March 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys who like the twangy acoustic stuff must love the "Down" disc of the Rearviewmirror comp, huh? I always got annoyed when they'd release songs like "Off He Goes" and "Nothing As It Seems" as singles, although some of that stuff is my favorite songs too.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

The hits defintely stopped coming after Vitalogy.

Didn't "Last Kiss" go to #1?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" was kind of a fluke. I mean it was a hit, but basically what happened was it was on their Xmas single one year, then some DJs picked up on it, and they decided to release it as a retail single and donate the proceeds to charity, and it shot right up the charts because of that. so I could be wrong, but I think it might have just gone to #1 on the single sales chart, like those Bright Eyes singles.

Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

"Last Kiss" is easily my least favorite PJ song (that I've heard). At least "Glorified G" and "W.M.A." are funny.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm kind of surprised to know that Betterman was their biggest hit (mainstream rock chart), considering it wasn't even a single. I always thought that Last Kiss was their biggest hit.

buck van smack (Buck Van Smack), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"last kiss" crossed over to ac - pj's biggest hit. crossing over to ac = the story of rock for almost ten years now.

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

i don't care what anyone says, 'who you are' is godawful. you'd think they'd never picked up a guitar before, and that's probably the point - this band loves to play the self-indulgent card.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Every time I find myself at Best Buy, I'm tempted to buy the last PJ album.

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:02 (sixteen years ago) link

probably don't worry about it

'red mosquito' is great, actually

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 04:14 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:02 (sixteen years ago) link

"Lakini's Juice" - C or D? (297 new answers)
-- miccio (miccio), Monday, March 14, 2005 8:13 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

still hilarious

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

also even though I'm obviously a big advocate for post-megastardom Pearl Jam, I have to say that Riot Act and especially the self-titled album are pretty awful records.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:17 (sixteen years ago) link

'in hiding' is a good pj song as far as the more (relatively) recent stuff goes.

the ballads haven't been good since vitalogy

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 05:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

No one was as shocked as I was. But it shouldn't have been, as they've improved with each album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I love the first track on No Code, but it's all ruined by the second one which comes in with all the welcomness of an irritating alarm clock.

the next grozart, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 12:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The last PJ album is actually really good, despite its terrible cover art.

Ha - I actually prefer the cover art to the actual album (which has decent enough songs, but Eddie and/or the production just fucks 'em all up).

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah his vocal performances on that album are easily the worst of his career. beyond a couple decent singles I don't understand any of the love for s/t.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mankind" is the reason I once almost considered buying the Stone Gossard solo album.

:)

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:04 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever seen al so excited about anything ever

strongohulkington, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah I don't know what I was on that day.

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link

aw come on

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

haha I meant the day I started this thread, not the day I considered buying a Stone Gossard album. is it good? should I?

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I have no idea! I don't think I've gotten within light years of any Pearl Jam side project. All my drinking money these days gets spent on keeping up with members of Veruca Salt.

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw a Brad music video on 120 Minutes once. It was a gentle AC piano ballad with Shawn Smith asking you to think what makes you laugh and think what makes you sing. Stone was putting some sparse wacka-chicka on it.

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

All I remember about the Mad Season song they'd play on the radio is jesus christ I hate Layne Stanley.

da croupier, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

RIVER OF DECEIT

oh fuck you miccio

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

"the only direction to go is down"

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

David R., Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember a Brad song with lots of slap-bass.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

haha yeah I think Stone had to get his funk jones elsewhere once Pearl Jam banished its wah wah pedal/touring with RHCP/"Dirty Frank" beginnings post-Vs..

Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

still a great record!!

ian, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

they were on an episode of Austin City Limits recently, and Eddie did "Lukin" ACOUSTIC WITH A STRING SECTION and they also played "Red Mosquito" w/ Ben Harper on slide guitar, it was like the whole thing was geared toward No Code geeks like me.

some dude, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link

weird that probably my 2 most enthusiastic threads ever (this & Philadelphia Freeway) were revived on the same day.

some dude, Friday, 18 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"Smile" sounds great.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 March 2011 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link


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