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And by 'full-length', I mean 'Paw Tracks debut'.

Kevin H (Kevin H), Friday, 3 September 2004 03:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Everything on Paw Tracks is extremely lo-fi.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 3 September 2004 12:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't consider Here comes the indian to be *that lo-fi...

BbetaA, Friday, 3 September 2004 22:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

This is 8-track, not 4-track, dog.

sexyDancer, Friday, 3 September 2004 23:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sorry I meant everything on the Ariel Pink Paw Tracks release, not Paw Tracks as a whole.

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 4 September 2004 01:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
gotta revive for the upcoming Worn Copy release. anyone else feeling dis?

i fucking love it

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

everybody's going crazzzzzzzy fr this!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

reynolds, woebot, geeta... I'm down too!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think you'd like this, toby!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 March 2005 11:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought the Doldrums was way better. Worn Copy's really good but....too long and too scattered, or something. I'm still figuring out my feelings here.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

shuffle function serves Mr. Pink well.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

very, very, very good. very good. this is what i always wanted Gary Wilson to sound like. Search "Life in L.A."

poortheatre (poortheatre), Monday, 28 March 2005 12:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ariel Pink for president! Just think of the ecology! The electricity savings! The thrift!

Momus (Momus), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

Revive to profess my undying love for Worn Copy. Even though this was apparently released on a CD-R at one point, will this still count as a 2005 release?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 7 April 2005 07:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

REISSUE

jack cole (jackcole), Thursday, 7 April 2005 09:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

"House Arrest" is still by far his catchiest and most consistent album. I can't really get into worn copy much past the point where he declares that "mankind is a nazi"

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Apparently, the person who originally realeased House Arrest is not allowing Paw Tracks to reissue it.

mitch dub (ano ano), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

That blows. Between "Alisa", "West Coast Calamities", "Gettin' High in the Morning", and "Interesting Results" it's probably the best bedroom pop album this decade will see.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

word

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 7 April 2005 17:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

xypost: But that's just after the first few minutes!!!

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

I know. hopefully the rest of the album will grow on me at some point, but after listening to worn copy 6 or 7 times, the second half of trepanated earth is the only thing on it that i really like.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

"CREDIT"?

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 7 April 2005 18:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

The free track on the paw tracks website isn't a patch on anything on Doldrums

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

down at the creepshow...

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 April 2005 20:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...
This is an incredible bit of music. Absolutely baffling but all the more wonderful.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 11:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

It's like the music you hear in your head just as you're drifting out of consciousness with classic rock radio on.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:14 (9 years ago) Permalink

So... classic rock through a drainpipe, then, and then irritation that it's not LETTING you drift out of consciousness, and then silence?

I've still not heard 'Ariel Pink'.

The fact that 'lo-fi' has been used NINE ZILLION TIMES in this thread with barely any answers...

... doesn't appeal.

But perhaps I am KNEE JERKING?!

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

When I think of low-fi, I always think of stuff done on cheap instruments and played very badly on purpose. This is stuff played on good equipment, written and played beautifully and then recorded on the cheapest equipment possible.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:45 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yes but what are his INFLUENZAS!

Lucretia My Reflection (Lucretia My Reflection), Thursday, 5 May 2005 12:47 (9 years ago) Permalink

70s and 80s rock/pop. Lots of Roxy Music, Lennon, Bowie, Talking Heads, New Wave etc.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 5 May 2005 13:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

and R. Stevie Moore

naturemorte, Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Guided by Voices if they grew up listening to '80s pop radio instead of 60s and 70s classic rock. Plus he actually finishes the songs he writes.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

The Cure are his biggest influence

i like The Doldrums A LOT, Worn Copy though, i don't know. It's not as catchy maybe, except for ' Jules Lost His Jewels'

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 5 May 2005 14:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

dude, rizzx, you GOTTA get House Arrest. it's his best work to date.
also, dog latin, about the "played on good equipment" bit, when i saw him saturday night his keyboard player was playing a pretty shitty yamaha.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

ah i have that on my HD, together with another album, something with Lovers? Don't know, but I'll listen to House Arrest as soon as i get home. Pink's the man. not very listenable on car stereo though

rizzx (rizzx), Thursday, 5 May 2005 16:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

are all his CD-Rs going to be re-released eventually? He's got, like, 50+ or something, yes? Worn Copy is the shit..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 5 May 2005 17:25 (9 years ago) Permalink

upthread:
"Apparently, the person who originally realeased House Arrest is not allowing Paw Tracks to reissue it.

-- mitch dub (w!mbis...), April 7th, 2005."
im not aware of the 50+ though.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 5 May 2005 17:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

someone was probably exaggerating..

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 5 May 2005 17:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

It felt like 50+.

Andre Dawson (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 May 2005 18:03 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

not anymore.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 5 May 2005 19:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

oh yes I am.

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 9 May 2005 20:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...
House Arrest!

In LA Weekly article, he says he has "easily 200" cassettes lying around of albums and "masters".

fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Thursday, 12 January 2006 03:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'm sure his parents don't appreciate him leaving all those tapes around the house.

account settings (account), Thursday, 12 January 2006 03:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
So, has anyone seen him live yet?

He's playing Knitting Factory on Friday I think; just wondering what the hell he's gonna do with himself on stage.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 23 February 2006 01:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

haven't seen him live but "life in l.a." is truly one of my summer 2005 anthems.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 23 February 2006 01:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

Going in a few minutes. Interested to see how he works in his guest backing band.

Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

Plz report back, soldier.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 23 February 2006 03:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

im guna go see him at 14 below!

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 23 February 2006 04:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

In Seattle it was just him and his 8-track, apparently. I really wish he would get a competent live band going.

fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Thursday, 23 February 2006 07:00 (8 years ago) Permalink

I don't know if it's me that's changed, or Ariel that's changed, or...it's just that I listen to pom pom and feel nothing. I've never felt this about any other album of his.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 01:48 (1 week ago) Permalink

The filler on this has really exhausted itself for me. There are three stone cold classics - "Put Your Number in My Phone," "Black Ballerina," and "Dayzed Inn Daydreams."

Pentenema Karten, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 03:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

Why does the Spotify release sound about 1/2 as quiet and booming as the leak? (yes I have HQ streaming premium)

Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

Wait, it's only noticable on some songs, like Plastic Raincoats and Lipstick are really noticably quieter, but white frekles and four shadows are not

Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:15 (1 week ago) Permalink

Because the leaked version is brickwalled to shit

DDD, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 13:59 (1 week ago) Permalink

Why?

Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 14:24 (1 week ago) Permalink

xpost nah that doesn't make sense, b/c plastic raincoats is noticably quieter than white freckles

Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 14:25 (1 week ago) Permalink

Oh, now I get it. Sorry. You meant the leaked version is actually quieter than the Spotify version, right?

Judging by the leaked version, the Spotify version must sound terrible then

DDD, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 15:01 (1 week ago) Permalink

From Stereogum:

"raptor jesus | Posted on Nov 18th +10
Do you like joy Doris? Do you like to smile? Grin? Giggle?

As a comparison point, I’m constantly reminded of The Fiery Furnaces’ “Blueberry Boat” as another album I’ve heard that’s long, all over the place, joyous and maybe a little off-putting by the odd lyrics. I think “pom pom” is 100% more accessible than “Blueberry Boat” but they both have those moments in the songs where they flip the script and never look back.

The first time I listened to the album, I thought “Jell-O” and “Nude Beach A Go-Go” were jokes and filler tracks. Then days later, I found myself humming the melodies and singing the lyrics. Now, I consider them essential tracks and easily the most fun songs on the album. Every time “Jell-O” starts now, I scream right along with Ariel with that huge cartoonish “YEEEAAAHHHH!” Same with the “Yeah!” at the end of “Nude Beach A Go-Go” SO MUCH FUN!

But it’s not all FUN! “Four Shadows” / “Not Enough Violence” / “Picture Me Gone” invert the fun times, creating this beautiful balance between light and dark. I’m usually overwhelmed and exhausted after hearing “Not Enough Violence” but then “Put Your Number in my Phone” sweeps in and takes me back to a happy place.

How about that break down in “Sexual Athletics” where right when you think it’s going to break open, the TV channel gets switched and it’s like Ariel’s doing a Spiritualized verse with, one of my favorite lyrics, “All I wanted was a girlfriend all my life… but she’s too sexual.” Then the drums kick in and it’s like an Animal Collective song. Lots of covered ground in that song alone.

But really, there’s a quick litmus test, do you like “Black Ballerina”? Because I think it’s one of the best songs of 2014 easily. If not, then… I don’t know what to tell you. Also, if you aren’t smiling while listening to this album, something isn’t working."

Comparing pom pom to Blueberry Boat is o_O

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 15:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

xpost no I mean a selction of songs on the spotify are very quieter than the leak *and* the rest of the spotify songs. someone went in and did this to a selection of the songs but not all, my q is why?

Raccoon Tanuki, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:07 (1 week ago) Permalink

alright lets get this over with *rolls up ears*

i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 17:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

I like a lot of pink's music, have listened to his stuff for a long time, seen him live quite a bit etc etc and I don't like this album at all. To my ears, there's nothing that interesting sonically. At first it was weird how John maus-y this was but then I realized that it's probably what happens when you apply pink's aesthetic to a solo project

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 18:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

Although I was singing white freckles while making coffee this morning so who knows

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 18:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

i just A/B'd them tanooki, i'm not hearing it.

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 18:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

I like a lot of pink's music, have listened to his stuff for a long time, seen him live quite a bit etc etc and I don't like this album at all. To my ears, there's nothing that interesting sonically

totally agree. felt the same way about mature themes (liked that one at first but grew very tired of it almost immediately). just not very interesting.

marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 18:32 (1 week ago) Permalink

yeah I wasn't too into mature themes either but for whatever reason, for me, Live It Up really coheres into something that's instantly compelling

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 19:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

there's always been something, at the very least like one track in an album, that's made me go "holy shit!!!"

For whatever reason, he's been able to achieve, at times, a completely unique atmosphere that I actively want to exist in, but there's really nothing on pom pom that does that, and, to take it a step further, there's nothing on pom pom that seems like it would be rewarding if I were to stay with it in an attempt to understand what I'm not understanding

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 19:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

just listened to this album and it kinda blew away my expectations tbh. the kid is talented.

example (crüt), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:05 (6 days ago) Permalink

he's 36

have some respect

Number None, Friday, 21 November 2014 22:40 (6 days ago) Permalink

I feel similarly. I don't really feeling like revisiting this. I'm over the wacky Ariel stuff for the most part and the "good" songs don't hold a candle to something like "Among Dreams" or "Strange Fires."

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:49 (6 days ago) Permalink

It's interesting that Doldrums really isn't that silly at all. I'd like to see it get some recognition so many years on.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:50 (6 days ago) Permalink

It's too lo fi for that to happen

nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:26 (5 days ago) Permalink

the doldrums is his saddest record, there isn't anything like "hardcore pops are fun" or "jules lost his jewels" or "are you gonna look after my boys?" it's just straight up isolation sickness. the title track is one of my favorites and underrated i feel...

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:28 (5 days ago) Permalink

Yeah as I said i miss his more personal sincere stuff
But i got used to Pom Pom and I try not to compare those 2 different periods.
Both are great (though not perfect) imo, for different reasons.

nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:31 (5 days ago) Permalink

did anyone see him on his first apparently "disastrous" tours in 2004/2005?

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:34 (5 days ago) Permalink

Did he play live alone back then?

nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:48 (5 days ago) Permalink

i think it was a mix, but there's an LA Weekly feature from 2005 that says he played with a band that was under-rehearsed because he couldn't pay them

ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:50 (5 days ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6553-the-doldrums/

Different I said?
Amazing how most things didn't change..
Change the low score and remove some lo fi references and..magic!

nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:07 (5 days ago) Permalink

his band was really really good when I saw them in 2010

example (crüt), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:14 (5 days ago) Permalink

I saw him around 2006 (I think) and it was great! I've still got the super-faded t-shirt from that tour.

MikoMcha, Saturday, 22 November 2014 12:59 (5 days ago) Permalink

I got into him when I saw the video for "Kate I Wait" in 2005. Saw him a year or two later on the tour where he had a different band in every venue. At the show he alternated between having the band back him up and karaoke-ing to his backing tapes, using a Tascam 4-track on stage.

My friends in LA were at a show of his last night and I saw some clips and it was sort of the same. Mix of live band and backing tapes.

I listened back to Mature Themes and think the new one is WAY better. The production is better and the songwriting is too as a result. Songs that maybe started out as tangents are fleshed out with tighter vocal arrangements and stuff. Some songs on his old albums had a few good ideas but they were perhaps front-loaded and once the initial idea is spent sort of seem superfluous. The new record feels like maybe they used that approach for writing the material but the final mixes and arrangements are nailed down.

"Four Shadows" is my favorite song on this. I love that time signature change into the chorus, as well as those "Things that go bump in the night" backing vocals.

Does someone else sing a line on "Negativ Ed"? Sounds like a guest singer for a line or two...

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 22 November 2014 18:34 (5 days ago) Permalink

I really wanted to hate the new one, but it really is the best he's done in a long time. Before Today was boring, didn't even bother with Mature Themes.

Frederik B, Saturday, 22 November 2014 18:36 (5 days ago) Permalink

I mean, holy shit, this shit is awesome.

what_have_you, Sunday, 23 November 2014 05:14 (4 days ago) Permalink


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