come anticipate the BBC's iPlayer with me

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i thought it was real!

not 'for a second', but till alba questioned its realness.

You get all the bbc on demand stuff with cable telly, as well as channel 4 and some cable owned channels' stuff. There was a trial of ITV for a while too before Sky bought a share in ITV and Virgin Media fell out with Sky.

To be honest, it was the shonky-looking typesetting, not the headline's improbability, that alerted me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6245062.stm

Ricky Gervais singled out as an enemy of open source.

sorry but 4od BLOWS

... as does the iPlayer. It installs but won't let me upgrade my Media Player security settings. According to the message boards this is a common problem but I can't seem to find a way around it.

Anyone got this to work? Downloaded the software, went to download a prog and it comes up with message download iplayer library software which I'd just downloaded. Rebooting the pc didn't help either.

sorry but 4od BLOWS

how so? the only downside i can tell is the terrible 'pitter patter' menu music.

yeh i got this working.
too many hoops to jump through to set it up, but it works pretty well once you do. downloads are P2P and very fast.
pity its so tied to windows media player.

Finally got it working after looking through the BBC iplayer message boards.

If anyone has the same problem this is the workaround which worked for me:

Update to the latest version of IE7
Update WMP
Uninstall I-player (again)
before I re-installed it I went into internet options and deleted history/cookies/temp files.
Went into the security tab, clicked on custom level then scrolled down to enable the axtive-x options detailed earlier in this thread.

I then went into c/program files and deleted the kservice & dkservice folders which were from previous installations of sky anytime and 4OD that I had removed some time ago, I think this was the main problem and something i totally forgot to check.

I then re-installed the i-player as instructed in my original email and it seems to have started d/loading okay, just hope they play okay. Hope this is of some help.

My problem is that when I try to download something, it tells me I need to update by DRM settings/licenses and offers me the option of doing so. If I click yes, nothing happens. At all. The computer doesn't crash, it just refuses to let me say yes. Hugely annoying.

Anyone know a way around this? I must get this working before the start of the football season.

Also it's a good job they're doing this with only a limited number of users because it would be a disaster if they'd gone mass market with it already.

fuck me. this sounds like the biggest heap of shit ever. well done, the BBC. as usual.

This is making me enormously annoyed now. I've located where my DRM folder is, and selected 'show hidden files' and for some reason my Windows XP refuses to actually show it. I know it's there (because Windows won't let me make a folder called DRM in that place) but I can't actually see it.

Anyone got any ideas as to how I might actually be able to access this folder?

haha get a mac lol

o wait

> Anyone got any ideas as to how I might actually be able to access this folder?

command line?

knoppix 8)

It won't let me in through the command line either. Hugely annoying.

try threats

It works now! And it's great.

"Downloading 0% (0MB)"

It's been saying that for 15 minutes, I could have stolen Still Game via other sources by now. It doesn't work and it's not great.

I had that as well. I signed out and then in again, and it started downloading.

wake me up when this a) works b) on a mac c) with something (other than still game or family guy) i might actually want to watch on BBC TV.

Now working in Mac and linux via flash:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/

What it needs is a standalone option that can float over your other windows, otherwise, seems good.

Everyone is off watching telly now, aren't they?

cool, now i can watch last week's Top Gear repeats on a 13" screen device that cost 4 times as much as a television.

oh, wait, i can't because i don't have broadband 8)

My excitement about this faded totally when I realised it wasn't carrying Match of the Day. Ah well, might be good for catching up on missed episodes of Doctor Who I suppose.

Ed it can do full-screen, which is basically the same thing. Full-screen Flash is kind of a high-end option, though. My old iBook struggles with it.

Matt yeah the rights issues are a nightmare with sport. :/

Virgin's On Demand thing doesn't carry sport either. I end up using ukn0v4 for MOTD most weeks.

It was okay once I got it working, but the iPlayer is never going to be a satisfactory substitute for ukn0v@ unless they get a decent selection of shows available. The last time I looked they were carrying just two programs from BBC4, neither of which was what I was looking for. Rubbish!

For BBC Four I see

- George Melly's Last Stand
- Brasil Brasil
- Love Soup
- Pop Go the Sixties
- Mark Lawson Talks to David Renwick
- Legends
- Bulgaria' Abandoned Children
- Watching the Russians
- The Late Edition
- The Sky At Night
- Flying Visits
- The History of the World Backwards
- Brasil Brasil: A Tale of Four Cities
- Brasil Brasil: The Tropicalia Revolution
- Brasil Brasil: From Samba to Bossa

It is sort of dumb that you can't begin by choosing a channel - you have to look at a certain day first or do a keyword search, and THEN filter by channel.

i forgot to install this

b-b-but the point is that now you don't have to install anything!

> It is sort of dumb that you can't begin by choosing a channel

it is. maybe they are trying to get away from the idea of channels given that traditionally channels were only there because it was the only way of having a choice at any given time, you had to physically switch between the channels. but i think the channels as genre / brand thing still works.

(still no 64 bit flash for linux btw. can wrap the 32 bit version with a netscape plugin but...)

if anything they're trying to brand and distinguish their channels more than ever. somewhat foolishly imo.

BBC has always been about branding and distinguishing their channels, even when there were only two of them.

I challenge anyone to point out a meaningful difference between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4 though.

OK, now finally no nonsense about downloading codexes and DRM. It is now officially actually good! Only took them six months!

ITVs

1: coronation street
2: X factor behind the scenes shit
3: poirot
4: police camera action with alastair "one for the road" stewart

I've just looked and yeah the iPlayer actually IS now a lot better. Also, convenient link to the radio stuff as well.

Do you still need to download to go full-screen though? I refuse to watch telly in tiny windows.

I am in the role of Beeb apologist here I realise, but I just want to point out that it's not like they just thought of this (Flash). Flash video simply took too long to encode and also is pretty CPU-intensive on the client side. With the new Flash encoding tools (which include H.264) this is better. Also the BBC has felt for years that the Flash audio codecs are not up to snuff, so a lot of the wait has been negotiating better ones with Adobe.

Matt if you DL and install the latest version of Flash player, it will do full screen (it's the little icon in the extreme bottom right).

I challenge anyone to point out a meaningful difference between ITV1, 2, 3 and 4 though

I am not aware of the differences but neither do I see it as a real problem (OK this is partly because there's hardly anything on them worth the watch but still 'the Beeb' retains the most value as a brand term itself, despite all the compartmentalism). Note that The South Bank Show remains defiantly on ITV1 tho at a day and time you wouldn't expect anyone else to think was a good idea, and hasn't been shunted off to a 'arts programming for the sniffy elitists' digital alcove. So it's interesting that ITV don't see the need to divide subjects/markets up like that. Maybe it would make more commercial sense to do so, even more demographic sense to do so but I like that they haven't.

did they make the radio streams higher quality, too? the radio 3 one is pretty acceptable now (only 65kbps, it says, but it sounds a better than that to me).

booo geolocation

I'm wearing NATO schwag around my neck right now I should be fucking allowed to watch The Mighty Boosh

I watched the George Melly documentary via flash streaming yesterday evening. The picture quality is only barely acceptable in full-screen mode.

http://www.twindx.com/node/276

This is amazing - hopefully this loophole never gets closed.

lily allen was outsung by the ting tings

Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only

boooo!

Anyone know how to get around that (UK only)?

you could try sending a check for 135 pounds to the uk tv licensing agency

A UK based VPN tunnel or a UK based proxy. VPN is probably easiest, you just need a mate with a decent upload to create the endpoint.

I don't see why they couldn't arrange something like that.

135 a year, less if your computer is black and white :)

Well yes, I could just pay for it. I'm prepared to pay it here in UK now, so why shouldn't I pay it over in DC next year if I like UK TV so very much...
But will also ask my savvy programmer brother about VPN.

have just noticed the --type itv flag for get_iplayer which gives you access to all their "itv-catch-up" shows. which includes 11 episodes of Press Gang, 17 episodes of Joe 90, all the gerry anderson stuff from itv4, the prisoner x 13, catweazle(!), metal mickey...

they are all 320x240 asf files, which is less than good, but ok for watching on the tube

ipad version will be out on thursday

US version in the summer

hmm i assume that would be developed in conjunction with Worldwide and be a paid app - first step towards PPV BBC content outside the UK i guess?

new TV version of iPlayer out today. a big step up i think.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2011/08/bbc_iplayer_connected_tv.html

i might just be a weirdo but i have a ps3 and never watch iplayer on my telly. always on the computer.

heh yes i think that is a bit weird!

Sunday Morning Live is the weirdest show on TV:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b013yypb/Sunday_Morning_Live_Series_2_Episode_9/

"John Bird, Andrew Stone, Jon Gaunt and Julie Bindel debate: Should we get rid of the human rights act? Should women stay at home and look after the kids?"

What's not to like?

This is great

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/playlister

The new BBC Playlister music player - rumours abound

haha sorry- I keep doing that!

iplayer (radio version) seems to have moved to using radioplayer thing.

looks superficially similar but

a) doesn't remember volume settings and defaults to LOUDEST whereas i normally listen on 2/10
(except radio 3 which isn't run through the optimod so is much quieter than the others)

b) doesn't remember position in show so i have to write it down if i'm splitting listening between days

c) (minor) no choice of hi / lo quality stream - sometimes when the live stream died you could switch quality and it'd come back.

bbc has apparently cracked down on vpn / dns shenanigans for ppl outside the uk watching iplayer. anyone know of something that works?

tryna watch that bake off too huh

I use Private Internet Access, iPlayer seems to work if I choose a UK-based server.

I believe VPNs are harder to block than the DNS changing sites.

thanks milo i'll take a look

i'm using unlocator and chose uk-2

works like a charm

odd, unlocator is what recently stopped working for me.

My Private Network working for me

trying to watch the winter olympics on iPlayer is immensely frustrating. How could they have cocked this up so badly? Why not make little groups of videos for each sport? Instead we've got these massive 3.5 hour chunks of coverage to scrub through, the descriptions will reference a few sports covered, but aren't exhaustive, and the titles of the chunks all begin with "Winter Olympics 2018 - Day 8 - ..." so on a phone you can't tell the difference between any of them because the title gets truncated. From what I understand it's all been handled by BBC Sport which is an online-first proposition, so I'm confused how they could have made such a hash of this.

Agreed, you have to sift through a lot of curling to get to something with watching. It’s worse on AppleTV because scrubbing through shows is so painful.

Olympics aside the search function is atrocious, it can’t find words within titles most of the time.

Huh search works p well for me - maybe the Apple TV build is different somehow

They do have these 2-3 minute highlight clips of big moments but I want to see the whole event. And just that event, without other stuff sandwiched around it that I have to fight through. It's bizarre that you can't just dial up "Women's Super-G Final".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/insidethebbc/howwework/accountability/consultations/bbc-iplayer-public-interest

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Question 2: What do you think about the benefit to consumers who will use the
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ha whoops. well, the email link is in the above URL