Journalists one is nice. Quite like the 4-5 too.
Crucial for #1: peach = betray, accuse
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:20 (thirteen years ago) link
^ my new thing learned for the day
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link
^ !
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Ohhhh.. #2: double def, front sight of a gun
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, I just looked up peach on thesaurus.com - still couldn't make it fit into an answer, right enough.
― ailsa, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link
this is total new word def day for me. Wait! Very!
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link
still can't get #2 to parse but friday evening settling in at this stage
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Ey thanks and kudos to GP for this shot in the arm btw
Cor, also did not know about bead = sight on a gun. This is very informative (and pretty obscure) stuff all round.
― ailsa, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Can someone explain 'lately indebted'? I get #1 and the 'bang' one now, thanks guys.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
and i'd like to thank the makers of the chambers iphone app for helping me find these ridic words
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Lately indebted basically other way of saying overdue, no?
― ailsa, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:28 (thirteen years ago) link
I think it's just an &lit: 'lately indebted' = late on your debts = arrears
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:29 (thirteen years ago) link
that was xp
I knew bead = sight on gun, but didn't click.
yeah arrears just late on debt
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
'wearer of a necklace' not really sure bout this part though
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:32 (thirteen years ago) link
necklaces have beads. sometimes. this is the weakest thing yet imo.
― ledge, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:33 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah the rest of that batch are pretty solid clues tho
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
How does the 'council' one work?
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
you pay rates based on the value of your house as determined by the council, right?
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
so if they 'don't appreciate' etc- underrated
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Ah, right, right. Good work everyone!
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:47 (thirteen years ago) link
well, it is actually, but thanks
― "It's far from 'lol' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Friday, 30 July 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I'll try and paste the last batch of these sometime next week.
― Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 30 July 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
V works in council housing section fyi V
dawn broke in not so poor a way as this (9)
i have the answer, can post in rot-13, but for the life of me the dawn broke part is as well to be a random addition.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:02 (thirteen years ago) link
aye, rot-13 it because I can't figure it, but might be able to figure it back?
― ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link
i will be impressed
comin up
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:16 (thirteen years ago) link
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― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
OK, nothing leaping out at me. I can see the use of "broke", I can see "not so poor as way as this", but can't see how they would fit together at all?
Would put good money on ledge cracking it though.
― ailsa, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
dawn, i mean wtf?
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 22:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Just stared at this for a whole episode of family guy. I got nuthin.
― ledge, Monday, 9 August 2010 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link
as long as it's not just me and my bro tbh
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Monday, 9 August 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, nothing here, and I tried it just after watching Sherlock, which should have given me the deductive skills to get it. Keep thinking the 'dawn' has to be an allusion of some kind.
o crap, wait, I sort of see - is it misdirecting then flagging up its own misdirection? ie dawn is *just* there to mislead on the sense of 'broke' (which serves as the definition, despite being mid-clue), then telling you 'the answer ≈ broke, but in another sense to do with poverty'.
That's an unacceptable clue by UK crossword standards imo.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 09:53 (thirteen years ago) link
that reading would be as strange for crosaire as it would anywhere else though.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:13 (thirteen years ago) link
re: mid clue definitions though, tis an interesting point. it is possible to construct legitimate clues that way, and some barred-grid setters use them. you just have to try and stick the def inbetween two bits of wordplay (e.g. anag fodder, anag indicator), like so:
hero's a nag, when upset (5)
― ledge, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link
well that's legit, but it's a hell of a jump from that (also 'a nag' deliberate or not?) to throwing in a random word with a sketchy indication to ignore it.
i don't think it's a runner in this instance, based on 15 odd years with these particular crosswords.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link
but why dawn? if it's just there as misdirection, then that's not on.
xpost
― ailsa, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:27 (thirteen years ago) link
dawn broke in not so poor a way as this
destitute
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:30 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean you'd be looking for 'dawn broke' as the puzzle piece to go along with the 'poor state' straight definition, it's as simple as that. just not.
― "It's far from 'loi' you were reared, boy" (darraghmac), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:31 (thirteen years ago) link
agree that dawn-as-misdirection is an obscenity, but I just can't see any other way to account for it. But I'm not really convinced myself, & wld be happier if we found a poem by Thomas Moore about the Undestitute Sunrise or something.
& re mid-clue defs, yes that doesn't feel too bad if it's fairly easy & used in moderation, but I'm not used to it & frankly fear a world where defs can be anywhere and letter jumbles are separated from anagram indicators.
― tetrahedron of space (woof), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Jagger and Johnson get Ailsa in a state (9)
― au secours madison (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
louisiana
― Not the real Village People, Sunday, 29 August 2010 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
something i hastily constructed for a birthday card for my dad. not tricky, just a bit of fun.
1___21|_|_|_| |_|X|_|3|_|_|_|
Across1 Hill start leads to hesitation and sound of motor spinning (3)3 Irishman is apt to be confused (3)
Down1 It's hard work to jump (3)2 Join up in home town (3)
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link
ack, should be 'joined up'
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link
humoepat
― koogs, Friday, 10 September 2010 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link
otm
― ledge, Friday, 10 September 2010 11:28 (thirteen years ago) link
no shortage at the baker's ball (9)
soft one to get it rollin again
― illiterate mods are killing ilx (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
ho ho
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/17216/17216-h/images/020-04.png
altho they look more like potatoes imo
― ledge, Thursday, 16 September 2010 16:00 (thirteen years ago) link