The official bored-at-work cryptic crossword pass it on thread.

GOOGLE mayne, google!

Are these all done apart from #3 now?

Haha I used google on formosan aggression, then I still couldn't do it :(

Everyone agrees it's wrong to google when you're actually doing the thing, right?

'given in embarrassment'

quite simply- none of my dictionaries and none of my brain cells and none of my internets can suggest even a single half-plausible explanatino for the remaining piece of this clue

yeah googling is prob frowned upon while doing, tho perfectly acceptable after you've gotten it- else how d'you learn sure?

I really can't make #3 work, I can sort of make bits of the clue bit fit, but not the whole thing, and not convincingly.

i guess you must 'hate' as a necessary condition of 'having' the third one- ?

though i would be much happier with 'fear' over hate, and that's already in the clue so slapdash at best imo

ie you must hate *something* to have a phobia

I have learned the word "emderatology" today though, which is nice.

xpost you can have a phobia without hatred though, so misdefinition just to give a double non-cryptic clue is totally misleading and wrong. There must be more to it than that. Where's the rest of the contributors to this thread when you need them?

i google

araucaria or ximes had a quote about how the solver ought to be permitted 'a reasonable shelf of reference works'. eh. also, you know, sometimes you have PSALMANUGGLE or something and just need to go 'is this really the name of an extinct marsupial or am i wrong'

btw, cryptics are the one thing I miss since I stopped buying print newspapers, but not enough to actually buy a book of puzzles or print any off or whatever, so I do love this thread very much indeed.

i treat it like scrabble rules (at least the scrabble rules at my house)- it goes in, in ink, before you get to check. no further stabs if wrong, and it stands forever as admonition

http://www.irishtimes.com/games/crosswords/

ailsa, no excuses

<3

hmm wait it's asking for a login? never used to.

maybe i can get one.......

ACtually, the one I'm doing is kind of shit. but thanks, is good to get the practice back in.

there's one you can do without logging in

well ok, but there used to be a trove. i think a mate may have a login but mods may have issues with me posting it or not?

Off to bed now - thanks for the help! More tomorrow I fear.

Outstanding clues:

Writer's well after visit - Theo left to think positive (6)
Morbid fear one hates to have (6)
A singularly heavy blow given in embarrassment (4)

Answers:
vaxcbg
cubovn
bare

rot13er: http://www.faqintosh.com/risorse/en/othutil/webapps/rot13/

writer's well- obvious. theo's left to think positive- will work on this bit!

morbid fears- yeah, unsatisfactory answer but i think this is just a bad clue.

bare- the single strike (think conker here for me) is clear- i've also tried linking 'embarrassment' with the 'heavy duty' aspect of the word, but no dice there.

inkpot

theo's left to think positive

th ink eo pot

ok

the o's left to think positive

hmm maybe something there?

i'll just get a pencil shall i? :)

I've got as far as thINKPOsitive, but it's not really working out for me much after that.

Yeah, single strike fine on those grounds, but again, not so much thereafter for me either. Can't even work out where to start.

xposts, yeah, something like that.

araucaria or ximes had a quote about how the solver ought to be permitted 'a reasonable shelf of reference works'. eh. also, you know, sometimes you have PSALMANUGGLE or something and just need to go 'is this really the name of an extinct marsupial or am i wrong'

those kind of things should be kept for listener-type xwords imo. araucaria annoyed me today with a word for hartebeest which actually means wildebeest, except in some 200 year old taxonomy.

oh come on, who hasn't gotten wildebeest/hartebeest mixed up lately? hot topic imo

xxp you're forgetting the 'visit'.

to think positive - theo visit = inkpot.

leaves us with 'poe' from positive....

ha!

ok motivated to revisit the others now

(sterling work btw)

there a word for 'shame' with 'oner' in the middle?

i think the phobia = hate thing is right - e.g. xenophobia, homophobia, generally manifest as hate not fear.

dis oner

Well done ledge.

I have been failing to find synonyms for embarrassment with "oner" in the middle for some time now, but I totally misread the inkpot one, so I don't trust my own judgement any more.

i'm gonna investigate as to whether as 'oner' orginated as a debt of shame? seems the most promising lead (working backwards from onerous)

don't keep us in suspenders

i got nothing

Chambers gives 'a big lie' as a definition of 'oner': is that what's given in embarrassment?

bit of a stretch.

not as much as trying to make 'er' = embarrassment, granted

darra was maybe on the right track. from teh oed:

oner, v.

Obs.

Forms: lME onyr, lME-15 oner. [< classical Latin oner{amac}re ONERATE v. Compare EXONER v., ONERATE v.]

trans. To oppress or burden; to charge; spec. to levy a charge on.
a1500 W. LICHEFELD Complaint of God (Caius) 400 in Anglia (1911) 34 520 Full sore schulde thy enmyes be desesyd, And thou my{ygh}thtyst oner [c1450 Lamb. 853 ouer] them, as i onyr [c1450 Lamb. 853 ouer] the may. 1545 St. Papers Hen. VIII V. 409 Who be extreme in takinge of gressoms, and oneringe of rentes. 1545 G. JOYE Expos. Daniel (viii.) f. 145, Beholde withe how fewe single pure and easye institucions cryste orned & not onered his chirche. 1581 Protocol Bk. J. Scott (Edinb. Reg. House) f. 112, The landis of Ower Carinbie..is onerit and burdanit with ane {ygh}eirlie annuell rent [etc.]. a1600 (?c1535) tr. H. Boece Hist. Scotl. (1946) IV. iii. f.129, [The Romans] had neuer onerit thame with sic chargis as victouris mycht of resoun put to pepill vincust

but i can't find anything to link that to shame/embarrassment specifically, as opposed to just 'burden of debt'- all the stuff you'd expect about legal terms in filing for bankruptcy etc, but it still seems like we're stretching to me.

not as much as trying to make 'er' = embarrassment, granted

'Er' (ie 'errrrrrrr') as something spoken/given in embarassment feels ok, though - it's just I can't parse the clue to get the 'on'.

(These clues are horrible by the way - I'd be angry at them - messy, a bit confused.)

i'd have agreed with you on the clues until ledge pulled the rug under our feet with positive theo, now i'm wary

I knew ledge would come good. Shall I post more, or do people want to crack on with morbid fear/ given in embarassment?

no more fear and embarrassment for me (i wish)