REVEALED-THE ILX TOP 75 FILMS OF THE 1950s

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53. Un Chant D’Amour
Jean Genet, 1950
POINTS: 72
VOTES: 2
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“Tosses the bouquet and swings the dick with the best of them.”

― Dr Morbius

“Are any even as satisfying as gay movies of porny qualities? I mean, sure, there's Un Chant d'amour and Pink Narcissus, but what else?”

― Eric H.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

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52. Some Like It Hot
Billy Wilder, 1959
POINTS: 72
VOTES: 5
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

Some Like It Hot: Classic, Dud or Something Inbetween?

BONUS FEATURE

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

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51. The African Queen
John Huston, 1951
POINTS: 73
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

"Romancing the Stone was an acknowledgement of what Raiders of the Lost Ark was missing: a credible or compelling romantic relationship at its center. Compared to Raiders, this adventure of whites in Africa pitting missionary and entrepreneur against Nazis seems mild as action and questionable as history, but somehow far more richly entertaining just by being a love story that gets Katherine Hepburn in wet clothes."

― Pete Scholtes

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The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I kinda thought Some Like It Hot wd be the only pure comedy on the list, just bcz of disposable comedy-adventures like The African Queen.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

and see Eric, you are not the anti-barometer re Genet erotica or Rossellini.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

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50. Shane
George Stevens, 1953
POINTS: 75
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“Jack Palance is so fucking awesome in Shane.”

― Alex in SF

“I was just now explaining Shane to someone who only knew him for City Slickers.”

― Ned Raggett

“Yeah, "Pick up the gun" is my favourite Palance quote too (anyone see Bill Hicks' "Revelations" when he compares that moment in Shane to the U.S. arming little nations, then attacking them because "See! He had a gun!"?)”

― shorty

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The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

a western for ppl who don't like westerns.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

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49. Plan 9 From Outer Space
Edward D. Wood Jr., 1959
POINTS: 78
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

ALL OF YOU ON EARTH ARE IDIOTS!

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The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost OK, this list is starting to get really bad.

Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

How is Imitation of Life THAT low?!

Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

+ I think Un Chant D’Amour was something like #2 on my list.

Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

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48. Rebel Without A Cause
Nicholas Ray, 1955
POINTS: 78
VOTES: 5
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“belle and sebastien are sal mineo in rebel w/o a cause”

― Fritz Wollner From If bands were characters from movies

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The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

luv me some Diabolique (damn I shoulda voted in this thing)

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Plan 9 < Glen or Glenda?

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I was going to vote but never got around to ordering my list, but I specifically excluded Plan 9 because I felt it didn't belogn on the list. Certainly not above Some like it Hot

Nomi Malone and Her Bloodstains (Stevie D), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

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47. La Strada
Federico Fellini, 1954
POINTS: 80
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

“There are films that quietly tell a story (La Strada, for instance) without feeling the need to 'show us what were really are,' or to lampoon the hypocrisy of modern life. Those are the ones I prefer.”

― andy --

“La Strada - I want to go back in time and impregnate Giulietta Masina.”

― Jeff-PTTL

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a strain of Right Directors/Wrong Films goin on...

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

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46. Night and The City
Jules Dassin, 1950
POINTS: 81
VOTES: 3
#1s: 0

COMMENTS:

RIP Jules Dassin

RIP Richard Widmark

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The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

...and that's it for today. Stay tuned for 45-31 tomorrow.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank God there are still 45 slots left!

Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, where will Bridge on the River Kwai turn up?

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

You'd be surprised...

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

oh I hope so.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

#1. Seven Samurai

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

My takes:

I hated La Strada, but that was 18 years ago. I felt trapped in the movie, and couldn't figure out why anyone (the characters, the audience) wouldn't want to get out. Anyone want to rhapsodize?

Shane felt a little canned, its vision of the kid a little cute ("Shane! Shane!"), but I know Western fans love it, and it has some exciting fights and romantic tension. I'd probably watch it again.

Rebel Without a Cause is Beautiful, and I'll keep going back to it (Invasion didn't make my Top 20 either), but its overt sociology is silly. I don't know when the first realistic depiction of American parents and teens hit a screen (maybe the American Family doc on PBS in the '70s?), but this one is laughable enough to throw me out of the film, no matter how good Dead is.

Imitation of Life is great, but it's all sacrifice, tragedy, and pain, where All That Heaven Allows involves a rebellion, which is so much more poignant. I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven.

I loved Night and the City, but didn't remember it well enough. The first wrestling noir?

I also loved Ed Wood, but couldn't sit through Plan 9.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, I meant Dean, not Dead.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Shane ... I know Western fans love it

hmmm, not cineaste western fans. It's by GEORGE STEVENS, for God's sake. Big fans of it should get an enforced Boetticher/ Mann oater marathon.

(not only are those 2 not gonna show up on this list, we're gonna get High Noon too, right?)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Rebel Without a Cause is a melodrama; what's silly about it is just as silly in Imitation of Life.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Sal Mineo in Rebel is rather proto-Emo. Its kind of odd that Emo kids never picked up on the mismatched socks.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven.

The rest of this unfinished sentence sure as hell better not be something along the lines of "works better than either."

Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

(x-post)

On the same tip, was there ever a confirmation that Natalie Wood lost her virginity to Nick Ray?

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link

if i had voted i likely would have gone with 'on dangerous ground' for #1, but i didn't

omar little, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw that recently. I liked it, but felt it came off like two halves of better movies that got glued together.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard rumor that Ray had Dean, Wood, Mineo.

I watched Ray's Bitter Victory again last night. Like a lot, but Curt Jurgens' character is too transparently craven, and Burton baldly enunciates the theme several times.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

without the divide it would never have worked

omar little, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

It's pretty packed for 80 minutes. No waste at all.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

"I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven." = I think that's why you find the combination in Far from Heaven.

I LOVE melodrama, but do you really think teens in the '50s were suffering from too LITTLE parental authority? The whole weak-father trope in Rebel Without a Cause is the thing I find laughable. Maybe that's just one part of the film, but the structure truly feels like a cautionary tale, where Imitation of Life isn't quite so neat. I didn't vote for either film, though...

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Gawd what a depressing run of films!

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Plan 9 < Glen or Glenda?

OTM. And Morbs waaaaaaaaaaay OTM about Shane. You just KNOW High Noon and Seven Samurai are coming up. But please spare us Kwai.

P.S. For the record, I placed Imitation of Life at number one.

P.P.S. James Dead. Ouch.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:58 (fifteen years ago) link

It's pretty packed for 80 minutes.

The UK version of Bitter Victory, which finally got put out on disc, is 103 minutes. So there is some waste, and like in Strangers on a Train much of it is named Ruth Roman.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Have to admit I found Imitation Of Life irritating, despite its many charms. Just couldn't feel for the main characters like I did in All That Heaven Allows

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Shane eased me into Westerns, and not just because of that wonderfully ambiguous ending. There are themes in that film that are actually in a lot of westerns, but when I was younger, I had never noticed them before in other ones. I know it's about as cliché as "hey let us compare John Ford/John Wayne westerns through three decades", but it's still a good stepping stone into what is now one of my favourite genres. I seem to remember Ebert's Great Movies entry being pretty good: Shane

As hokey as Rebel is, there is something about James Dean that is so captivating that I can forgive it. I much prefer his performance in Giant, however, so that should be where the James Dean recognition should go.

Roman Holiday is still great, but I love Audrey and Gregory.

Wish Smiles of a Summer Night was higher. The moment where the statue lever is hit and the bed moves into the other room is simply perfection.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, Elevator the Gallows is overrated.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

everything in Giant except Dean is pretty mediocre to terrible!

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"I think that's why the combination in Far from Heaven." = I think that's why you find the combination in Far from Heaven.

OK, I can accept that (even though I'm pretty sure I actually hate Far From Heaven in retrospect).

Eric H., Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

ha - Liz is actually in character for once!

I never understood Lola Montes and Johnny Guitar's reputations. And wtf High Society?!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Which is why it is the real testament to Dean's abilities! Watching Rebel, you can understand why his early death meant the loss of an icon. Watching Giant, you can see that the real tragedy is the loss of a really good actor. Dude made a 3-hour slog really quite enjoyable to watch.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost, btw

Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I always felt Johnny Guitar's reputation had more to do with the crowing on of the Cahiers set than anything. Only saw the movie once, years ago, and don't really remember it though.

Gukbe, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link


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