Ned, let's talk about your 136 Albums of the 90s.

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"Black Metallic" was inexplicably played to death on US (East Coast) radio and MTV.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:32 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, I've resisted posting my 90s 100: this is your thread. Chainsaw Kittens?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

They're great!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

only 500? ;-)

i have 21 of 136.

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:36 (twenty years ago) link

But not Drivin' N' Cryin'?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:40 (twenty years ago) link

damn, I only have about fourteen of these.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:43 (twenty years ago) link

I have 62 - circa '98 I was totally a mini-Ned.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 31 October 2003 03:53 (twenty years ago) link

with the hair et al? we want pictures.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:00 (twenty years ago) link

Photoshoppers ahoy!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:02 (twenty years ago) link

I own 16 of Ned's ... plus a solid 5 or 6 that I've always been "meaning to pick up"...

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:04 (twenty years ago) link

The thing that suprised me about Ned's list when I read it was that there was fewer US indie rock records than I expected.

Considering some of his reviews at Allmusic and comments around here, I would have assumed some bands like the Jesus Lizard and Girls Against Boys would have been in the list.

― earlnash, Friday, 31 October 2003 04:08 (twenty years ago) link

Then Tim took my advice and took some E at a rave one night. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha yes! That is a true story sorta! One of the first thing I said to Ned was that I thought I needed to try some E to better enjoy dance music. And that's exactly what happened!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:41 (twenty years ago) link

Apropos of nothing in particular, I'd like to point out that my friend Mark once proposed that Firehose and the Butthole Surfers form a supergroup called, wait for it, "Butthose"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 31 October 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link

I own 18, I've heard and wish I owned about 20 more, and almost all the rest are things I want to check out. So rah, Ned!

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:12 (twenty years ago) link

I bought DI Go Pop when it came out, and it never clicked. I gave it more than it's fair share and now everyone seemingly rates it so highly. I would have to argue strongly for Buckley's Grace being in the top 10 if not 5.

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

In your top ten, sure. I will not have THAT pollute my list.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:34 (twenty years ago) link

So, Ned, are you saying you would prefer Gluey Porch Treatments or Ozma over Bullhead or Lysol?

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

Pollute? ouch. You cussed rascal. Pistols at dawn outside the Goat & Nun. At least he engenders strong opinions.

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:39 (twenty years ago) link

So, Ned, are you saying you would prefer Gluey Porch Treatments or Ozma over Bullhead or Lysol?

Er, no? Was I implying that?

At least he engenders strong opinions.

This is true.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:41 (twenty years ago) link

Tim Finney, you are immediately ten times more interesting to me, knowing that you weren't a dance fan until quite recently.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 October 2003 05:54 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, one more comment Ned,

TOO MUCH FUCKING SYNTHPOP

thank you

― qurslpis, Friday, 31 October 2003 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

TOO MUCH FUCKING SYNTHPOP

There can never be enough. Mm, getting sleepy, that's all for tonight on this thread from me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 06:14 (twenty years ago) link

Goo Goo Dolls rock!

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 31 October 2003 07:18 (twenty years ago) link

Ned has inexplicable bizarre dislikes such as Buckley and Elliott Smith which continue to bewilder me (well I understand teh Buckley dislike actually). But, I will say this, his list made me go back and actually purchase Mellon Collie which I derided for years as total crap after having heard it twice on a cross country drive, and I decided I actually like it (and, then, I decided I liked most of Adore also, particularly the last four or five songs). So, no-sideburns wearin', Jeff Buckley-hatin' Ned, I give you props for that.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 31 October 2003 07:41 (twenty years ago) link

Mellon Collie, doesn't that inhabit the whingecore genre, shudder

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 31 October 2003 08:39 (twenty years ago) link

"Tim Finney, you are immediately ten times more interesting to me, knowing that you weren't a dance fan until quite recently."

Well we're talking four and a half years ago now.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:11 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck, I've only got 5! There's a lot more I'd like, but still.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:17 (twenty years ago) link

I've got 26. Big props for mentioning the Veldt.

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:44 (twenty years ago) link

The Veldt remain my great 'what if' band from the nineties. They shoulda been huge.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:45 (twenty years ago) link

Oh my god. The Veldt! Suddenly it's 1991 all over again!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:07 (twenty years ago) link

I have 64 out of the 136.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:10 (twenty years ago) link

I have 47. I thought I had more...

― Nicolars (Nicole), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

I own exactly 50 of these. There were roughly 20 albums in this list I either hadn't heard of or bothered with.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:24 (twenty years ago) link

MBV, Slowdive, Boos, Ride, Cranes (yay) all present and CORRECT, but one question remains: whither Lush?

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

Lush is in the fuckin' used bins where they belong.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link

wow, i only have 41. when i first read the series, for some reason i was under the impression that i owned more. maybe because i've got 13 of the top 20.

― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

No Maxinquaye ! ? ! ? @ ~ ! !

*MASSIVELY* overrated. A couple of great songs, otherwise Pre-Millenial Tension rules in comparison.

Sorry Ned, but with all due respect you're utterly wrong. Maxinquaye was the best record of the decade. PMT, OTOH, is mostly a pile of poo.

― Freedom Dupont, Friday, 31 October 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

i only have 4 of these. and it's a good thing! ;-D

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

Sorry Ned, but with all due respect you're utterly wrong.

Look, I'm not getting into another argument of the objective validity of personal opinion! You think one way, I think another, life goes on. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:33 (twenty years ago) link

This won't be published when Pitchfork redoes its list, so, bombs away.

1. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
2. Jesus Lizard - Goat
3. Radiohead - OK Computer
4. DJ Shadow - Entroducing...
5. Portishead - Dummy
6. Slint - Spiderland
7. Flaming Lips - The Soft Bulletin
8. Bjork - Post
9. Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted
10. Breeders - Pod
11. Yo La Tengo - Painful
12. Lemonheads - It's a Shame About Ray
13. Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
14. Warlock Pinchers - Circusized Peanuts
15. Ride - Nowhere
16. Built to Spill - Perfect From Now On
17. Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do
18. Primal Scream - Screamedelica
19. Cocteau Twins - Heaven or Las Vegas
20. Bjork - Homogenic
21. Dinosaur Jr. - Green Mind
22. Nirvana - Nevermind
23. Mercury Rev - Yerself is Steam
24. Happy Mondays - Pills 'N' Thrills and Bellyaches
25. Sonic Youth - Goo
26. Tricky - Maxinquaye
27. Spiritualized - Pure Phase
28. Morrissey - Vauxhall and I
29. Jesus Lizard - Liar
30. Luna - Bewitched
31. Swell - 41
32. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
33. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works II
34. Screeching Weasel - My Brain Hurts
35. His Name is Alive - Stars on E.S.P.
36. Oval - 94diskont
37. Bedhead - Whatfunlifewas
38. Busta Rhymes - When Disaster Strikes
39. Built to Spill - There's Nothing Wrong With Love
40. Seefeel - Quique
41. Sinead O'Connor - I Do Not Want What I Havent Got
42. Burger/Ink - Las Vegas
43. Sunny Day Real Estate - LP2
44. Ride - Going Blank Again
45. Seam - The Problem With Me
46. Sonora Pine - II
47. PJ Harvey - Rid of Me
48. Codeine - Frigid Stars
49. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream
50. Swirlies - They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days...
51. Replacements - All Shook Down
52. Weezer - Blue
53. Karate - Karate
54. Pixies - Bossanova
55. Talk Talk - Laughing Stock
56. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
57. Chapterhouse - Whirlpool
58. Helmet - Meantime
59. Orbital - Orbital 2
60. Luna - Penthouse
61. Archers of Loaf - Vee Vee
62. U2 - Achtung Baby
63. Dinosaur Jr. - Where You Been?
64. Rage Against the Machine - The Battle of Los Angeles
65. Yo La Tengo - Electr-o-pura
66. Massive Attack - Mezzanine
67. Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I
68. Magnetic Fields - Holiday
69. Superchunk - On the Mouth
70. Dave Matthews Band - Under the Table and Dreaming
71. Swirlies - Blondertongueaudiobaton
72. Low - The Curtain Hits the Cast
73. Throwing Muses - The Real Ramona
74. Radiohead - The Bends
75. Melvins - Houdini
76. Sebadoh - III
77. Curve - Doppelganger
78. Peter Gabriel - Us
79. Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory?
80. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime
81. Codeine - The White Birch
82. Milf - Ha Ha Bus!
83. F.Y.P. - Finish Your Popcorn
84. Belle and Sebastian - Tigermilk
85. Quicksand - Slip
86. Mogwai - Come on Die Young
87. Guided By Voices - Alien Lanes
88. Strung Out - Suburban Teenage Wasteland Blues
89. Faint - Blank Wave Arcade
90. Suzanne Vega - 99.9F
91. Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
92. Liz Phair - Whip Smart
93. The The - Dusk
94. Bettie Seveert - Palomine
95. 18th Dye - Tribute to a Bus
96. Unrest - Imperial F.F.R.R.
97. Galaxie 500 - This is Our Music
98. Moby - Ambient
99. Prince - (Love Symbol Album)
100. Beat Happening - You Turn Me On

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

Lush is in the fuckin' used bins where they belong.

Huh, I wish. Then I could replace stolen copies.

― David Merryweather (DavidM), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

I have 17, and there's really only one or two that feels Ned's influence (MBV (which I'm still not *ducks* into), and DCD).

― Leee (Leee), Friday, 31 October 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

Jesus Christ. I have 67 of Ott's top 100 -- 18 of the top 20.

Good things: Seam getting some 'spect. Goat at #2. Seefeel (also seen on Ned's list). Drive lIke Jehu. The The's Dusk -- their best album, though no one will admit it.

Bad things: The lackluster Replacements album. They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days ranked higher than Blondertongueaudiobaton. Bossanova, but no Trompe le Monde. Moby's Ambient.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 31 October 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link

You sure do love you some indie rock.

― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:37 (twenty years ago) link

Any best-of-the-nineties list that does not include Swans The Great Annihilator is deficient ;)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:40 (twenty years ago) link

i have 10 of ned's list and 10 of ott's.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

I have exactly 1/4 of Ott's - 25. With another 6 or 7 in the "always meant to pick up" pile.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

only 40 Neddite albums.

― badgerminor (badgerminor), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:47 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't know Loveless was such a huge critical fave. How can you like an album with such a ridiculously awful tinny drum sound? You'd think with half-a-million pounds the band could've afforded some good production. Sigh. Spent too much money on those darn guitars.

― Mister Snrub (MisterSnrub), Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

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