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I want THE OTHER KOGAN to post. Or did Frank just make him up?

the pinefox, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Meta-question (can't find apter thread):

??? Where is Dr C ???

the pinefox, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

almost-thirty mostly-online journo-editor type who likes to use dashes. proud of writing for respected underground magazines in multiple genres, but none lately. ex-pat american living in london, for now. my favourite album today is his name is alive's 'someday my blues will cover the earth', but the most recently listened to is the richard pryor box set.

embarassing firsts: show - billy joel album i made mom buy for me - 'hot trax' tv compilation featuring styx. album bought on my own - neil young, which wouldn't be too bad, except that it was the NY & the bluenotes album.

bucky wunderlick, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

HOWDY!
I'm David (30) from the UK!!

Been here ages but no matter what they put me through I'll STILL believe in love.

DavidM, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jay 30 lawyer Columbus, Ohio USA obsessed with Captain Beefheart lacking in fashion sense appreciative of taste waiting for the love of a good woman currently reminiscing with Eric B & Rakim

Jay, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Some kinds of ice cream taste really good.

[my conscience: "don't waste your one shot at glory on the 'introduce yourselves' thread talking about ice cream! there will be other opportunities to talk about ice cream! say something about music!"]

I'm 20 yrs old, quite fond but not in love with [band I: a 5-piece from Glasgow] and [band II: a 2-piece from Paris], in love with [band III: a defunct 5 (not 6!)-piece from Stockton] and brackets, not naming the bands because they're pretty much interchangeable with a bunch of other bands, into old movies, a lapsed anarcho-socialist, a (slowly) recovering cool junkie, shy, too eager for value commitment, thirsty, I'll stop now.

Nick Bramble, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh, shit, I just found this thread. Right after discovering the 'Recent Answers' button.

I'm Curt, 48, but I'm still prettier than any of you. I'm a graphic designer living in Michigan. I remember when Elvis was new. Not that I thought at age 3, "This means a big change for pop music," or anything, but I remember the commotion around the house. My older brothers were entering their teens. One was a huge Jerry Lee Lewis fan with a big rebel DA. I grew up on my brothers' singles and their box record players like every kid in America had at the time. Elvis, Jerry Lee, Everlys, Chuck Berry - I get a rush seeing the sleeves now. My first records, and my first fave, was Ricky Nelson. Lonesome Town. Because he was on TV, I guess.

I remember the 60s, of course, but I don't have anything new to say about it.

I stopped listening to pop records for about two years in the mid-70s. I got into classical. Nothing weird, just Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and those boys. In '77, punk called me back. Actually, it was Cheap Trick that first made me want to listen again. The next few years were a third golden era.

I sat out another stretch later, roughly 1989 to 1997, when I bought next to nothing that was current. The ony contemporary pop CDs I recall getting were:

Charlatans Some Friendly (my 1st CD purchase)

Monie Love Down to Earth

Talk Talk Laughing Stock

Concrete Blonde Bloodletting WHY??

Breeders Last Splash

Morphine Cure for Pain

Until the End of the World Soundtrack

Crime and the City Solution Paradise Discotheque

It started when I quit buying new vinyl before i even had a CD player. Then, with the price of CDs, I spent my money on sure things, old rootsy catalog releases that had never been available before. Lots of old jazz, blues, 60s ska boxes, pre-rock adult pop, as well as pre-'89 rock. So I missed out on grunge. More like, grunge came knocking and I said go fuck yourself, dude, I'll take Count Basie. I felt like the culture of youth rebellion was hopelessly beyond played out, and I wanted no part of its attitude in music, art, fashion, anything.

Eventually, I felt like I'd go insane if I heard another saxaphone solo. Some other factors came together, too. Different friends with different interests, one with a record store. More interesting new music - electronic, ambient, all variety of stuff with more pop input. Record guides, especially All Music, the Internet, used CD stores, CD burners., oh, my head!

I dropped in on ama from time to time but always found it hard to follow. Now, I've read all of the ilm archives, and I wish you'd all wrap up your ile hippie chitchat and get your sorry asses back over here.

Curt, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Damian,going on 23.Fresh out of University of Auckland,NZ.Likes and loves - Radiohead,2001 - A Space Odyssey,Stereolab,Idaho (the band,not the state),Faust,Brian Eno (singing and non-singing),Joy Division,MBV,Kraftwerk,Neu!,some prog.Will never succeed in hating Pink Floyd again.

Damian, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"I've read all of the ilm archives" = Purple Heart.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

27, in Dallas. I won't waste any time: I need a band. Reference points would be Ruins, Debussy, Beach Boys. Anyways, I've already noticed people I know in this thread, but if you're near me and want to play, sign up today!

Re:ILM, I too made the mistake of discovering this thread after I'd already posted a few. How's that for a first impression?

dleone, Wednesday, 5 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

is it rude of me to introduce myself now when i've been posting here for months?

i'm di. i am 22. i love music. some current faves are bikini kill, sleater-kinney, bratmobile, king loser, the kinks, the rolling stones, the aesthetics, now i'm getting stuck and i wish i had my record collection with me so i could remember what bands i like but you know, there's heaps and i guess you guys will probably find out while i am posting. i play guitar and sing in a band called LD50 in Dunedin, NZ , and in the daytime i am an assistant in the Music Department at a local high school. and yes, my nickname is a dumb joke about a certain dead princess. whaddaya gunna do?

di, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My name is Ronan, at the time I was born (1983) this name was blissfully unknown in the world of pop. I live in Dublin. My favourite bands are(to name a few) Mogwai Spiritualized, Spacemen 3, Ryan Adams, Whiskeytown, Will Oldham, Jim White, Chemical Brothers, Beastie Boys, Primal Scream, Doves, and many many more...........oh yeah and I fucking hate Aphex Twin. Sorry I had to get that in there

Ronan, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i'm young, but i feel old i'm grey, but i dye my hair red

i find it almost impossible to list what kind of music i like - bjork, kylie, old manics, showtunes (not lloyd webber), punk where you can hear the words, singer songwrittery stuff that is not too general (read Blood On The Tracks rather than Tapestry), pop!, tv themetunes, george formby, old skool hip-hop, nasty electro beeps music, anything(almost) not in english...

whatever

bounder, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think you've got an alarming amount in common with me, Bounder ...

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 18 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hey all. I'm Justyn, from Tucson, Arizona, the most boring city this side of Aberdeen. I'm a hopeless guitar player along the lines of Richey Manic. A would-be poet who thinks most poetry written today is crap, including my own. I'm madly in love with Winona Ryder. I'm 19 and a college student. I lead a very boring life matched only by the hero of Sartre's "Nausea."

Favorite artists include Billie Holiday, Syd Barrett, The Beatles, Le Tigre, The Clash, Bikini Kill, Manic Street Preachers (up till 95), McCarthy, X-Ray Spex, Public Enemy, Sex Pistols, Marvin Gaye, Stone Roses, Pulp, Suede, the Pixies, Sleater-Kinney, Kenickie, the Ronettes, and Subway Sect. My favorite single of all time is "One Chord Wonders" by the Adverts.

Favorite writers - Salinger, Philip Larkin, Ballard, Burroughs, Greil Marcus, Allen Ginsberg, Albert Camus, and Gore Vidal. My favorite film is "Taxi Driver." The two books that changed my life, when I was 15, were Catcher In The Rye and Nik Cohn's Rock From The Beginning. I've spent much of the following four years obsessively reading the rock press - Christgau and Bangs and the rest are like old friends to me, but I've recently gotten into the U.K. crowd like Reynolds and Roberts and Penman, who are pretty hard to find here outside of the pages of UNCUT. My favorite magazine, although I recognize its mediocrity compared to the greatness of NME and Melody Maker in the Eighties. I've been reading this forum for months and it only recently occured to me to post anything. Hope to get to know you all soon enough...

Justyn Dillingham, Thursday, 27 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

For some reason I considered reading the entirety of this thread (in one sitting, no less) an absolute pre-requisite to posting about myself. About 1/4th of the way through, someone already wrote that he thought it unlikely that anyone would read his introduction given the already enormous number of posts. Where does that leave me? I'm hoping that the fact that I most definitely read your introduction will be enough to motivate you to read mine. This is, by the way, my first post.

I used to tell people that I listened to every kind of music, except the kind that "they" play on the radio. Then, and perhaps eternal favorites would probably be Joy Division, PIL, Gang of Four, and Pere Ubu (which probably makes me sounds like some boring, self-absorbed asshole, who wears black, goes on at length about "transgressive culture" and Marxist politics, and does whatever it is that Pere Ubu fans do... which isn't [entirely] the truth) Then I joined the Peace Corps and moved to Kazakhstan (which will be my home for another year, unless events occurring a couple hundred miles south of here get hot enough to require Peace Corps's withdrawal from Central Asia). Whoever has previously claimed to be living in the middle of nowhere has obviously never been to Kazakhstan. This move basically cut off any connection I once had to all of the realities I once enjoyed, including the resources that allowed me to listen to music other than what "they" play on the radio. By resources, I mean not only access to stores that sell non-commercial music, but the money with which to buy it (those of you who already find it hard to scrape together enough money to "feed your addiction" should try living on 100 dollars a month).

I mention this because I think I have a slightly different history than most of you when it comes to a personal relationship with mainstream, "pop music." Which is to say, I started listening to it not out of a) dissatisfaction/frustration with the underground/non- Top 40/indie music scene or b) my own self-willed recognition/revelation that mainstream music is not necessarily absolute crap. No. I started listening to mainstream music because I had no choice. I could either resign myself to the retro-hell of listening incessently to the same CDs from the (admittedly large) cache I lugged here from America (a fate which I know that those of you who share my sickness, ie probably all of you, would never willfully endure) and hope for the kindness of mix-tape making friends (In the year I've been here, I've recieved exactly one package from America containing mix-tapes. There were, admittedly, seven tapes, but that was over 9 months ago...) - OR - I could suck it up and start listening to what is available here. I should mention, just in case anyone thinks I'm actually complaining here, that I am glad that circumstances forced to me broaden my horizons a bit - in hindsight, I was starting to slip into a rather predictable funk. But I think this gives me a slightly warped perspective on things - I am an avid listener of pop music who has yet to be entirely sold on the pop aesthetic. At least, it feels warped.

So my current batch of favorites include, in addition to the Russian pop music that is played incessently over here (and was I hallucinating, or did someone on ILM mention Tattoo and Detsl?!), Aaliyah, Missy E, Nelly, Outkast, Radiohead, Eve, DMX, Jay-Z, Destiny's Child, Daft Punk, Basement Jaxx... And after consuming a large ammount alcohol, I've been known to admit to liking some Britney. All of these are available (in bootleg format, of course) at the local kiosk for the cost of a bottle of vodka. I should mention that the only two from this list that I would have bought had I been living in America this last year are Outkast and Radiohead.

The seven mix-tapes I mentioned above were all death metal/harcore/out-of-controlcore like At the Gates, Refused, Cave-In, Dillinger Escape Plan, Today is the Day, Converge, Coalesce, Deadguy, Cavity. This has been another recent revelation - metal does not always suck.

Guess I should include... Name: Matthew Cohen. Age: 24. Graduated from a small liberal arts college with a BA in Political Science. Planning on going back to school for a PhD in same. Speak Russian, but not fluently (what does "fluent" mean, really?)...

I should also mention my propensity to go on and on at length (interspersing my writing with parenthetical remarks that are often longer than the senteces they are intended to supplement).

Matthew Cohen, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My name is Dickon Edwards. I was reluctantly born in Ipswich, Suffolk shortly after they outlawed shillings, two events from which I still have not fully recovered. I share my birthday with the anniversay of the outbreak of World War Two. I have tried, at various points over the last six years, to be anyone other than myself in a vain attempt to understand Other People, but no one was convinced and I just ended up making even more enemies than when I was actually being myself. So now I am resigned to waltzing around North London with an air of fatuous affability, baiting schoolboys, and maintaining my appearance so that my friends can spot me in a crowd and my enemies can see me coming. www.fosca.com

Dickon Edwards, Monday, 1 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Idea for a thread (though I'm too busy to start one): "What is it that Pere Ubu fans do?" Here's an answer: They (well, one of them, at any rate) think, the first time they hear it, that there's a line in "30 Seconds Over Tokyo" that goes "Intellectual dragon locked in time."

"So, Frank, how would you describe yourself?"

"I'm an intellectual dragon, locked in time."

(Pause). "Oh."

Frank Kogan, Wednesday, 3 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Never got around to actually doing this, so I guess it's about time I do. Real name's Vinnie Prabhu but I go by Palpable for just about everything online. I'm a 19 year-old student at Virginia Tech studying computer engineering. Some of my favorite artists: XTC, Bjork, Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Orb, Orbital, Barenaked Ladies, New Order, Cure, Smiths, Underworld. Outkast and Blur are also moving quickly up in the ranks. I also have a crappy website (http://palpable.dhs.org) with album reviews, movie reviews, and my journal.

palpable, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Me Brian. Me 29. Me almost 30.

I used to be now FT editor Ned Raggett's roommate, until I moved here to Seattle in February 2001. Like Ned, I was a college radio DJ at KUCI in Orange County for several years. Occupation: video game programmer. Favorite bands of the moment: Pinback, Hochenkeit, Buckfunk 3000, Pell Mell...

Side interests: Making music... indie/droney stuff and electronic stuff. Also DJing all sorts of dance music.. hip hop/experimental/weirder techy house/80s/whatevah

No personal home page... but here's a recent mix CD I made, as well as a couple of electronic tracks I did for some tributes. And here's what I look like...

I should have done this a long time ago. Sorry.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

..and just so other IL*'ers won't give me grief about it. Yes... the goatee is now gone.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 10 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I've made a few contributions in the last couple of months but only just discovered this thread. I'm 30 years old and living in Amsterdam. Happily married since last May. I am what's possibly called a contributing editor at OOR, which is a bimonthly music magazine here in the Netherlands. I cover mainly hip-hop and dance music. My other job (I have two) is doing a weekly two-hour radio show on VPRO Radio 3FM late on Saturday nights. It's called Elementaal and I'm very proud of it. It is archived in Real Audio here. If you look around on the site, you'll see I also do three different, weekly one-hour internet-only shows.

JoB, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

im boring. and i make mix tapes. A picture of little ol me question the existential nature of life. ~chameleon

chameleon, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh yah. im 18 and a painter/photographer, and i love cats. hemingway, london, yolen, piers anthony, old mccaffery, and eliot rock my world.

chameleon, Wednesday, 17 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

38, SWF from Brooklyn, now living in Hoboken NJ. Grew up reading NME, listening to punk/post-punk stuff, going to clubs Hurrah, Mudd Club, Peppermint Lounge, the Ritz. I read and enjoy ILM and ILE everyday! St. Etienne, Teenage Fanclub and the Kinks I've liked the most for the longest stretch of time. Recent listening: Le Tigre, Clinic, Tuesday Weld, King Tubby, John Cooper Clarke, Goldfrapp, Francoise Hardy, Mary J. Recent reading: Sarah by J.T. LeRoy.

Lesley Higgins, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Wow, Lesley. Let me know if you ever want to go to a show in the city. We could get Arthur to come!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Unfortunately, Tracer, I live in Los Angeles. But I hope to be back in NYC for good next summer. And I'd love to tag along--sounds like Lesley and I have a lot in common. Isn't Sarah great?

Arthur, Thursday, 18 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tracer- There's great stuff at the Knitting Factory soon, and Ludacris at S.O.B.'s! I saw him last winter, he was fun.

Arthur-I love Sarah's solo work as well as St. Etienne. Hope to meet you when you get back to NYC

lesley higgins, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'm 27, about to start on masters program, FL International Univ, Miami, FL. I like pretty much everything....as long as you don't bother me with a lot of stupid show-off rap like Jay-Z. I'm mostly into dance music, though I still proudly display everything I was into in years past. but now.....right off the top of my head I'm spinning: Orbital, New Order, Placebo, Radiohead, Sigur Ros, Deep Dish, Danny Howells, Steve Lawler, or any other Global Underground DJ......along with a lot of other stuff I can't be bothered to list right now

patrick, Saturday, 20 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I suppose, given that I've posted a bit, that I should contribute to this thread:

Charles, 19, Sydney, Australia. Media student (wanker). Longtime lurker. Comm. radio host (2ser.com; Osmosis). Occasional writer. Bands: fixation with Austin (Bedhead, American Analog Set, Super XX Man, Trail of Dead). Usual indie blah (twee as well). Destiny's Child. Auselectronica (Pilfernators, Bloody Fist label). People Under The Stairs. I heart Freaky Trigger, and the boards; they've changed how I listen to music...

charles, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Interesting selection of bands, Charles. I'm intrigued to know what you think of ILM Listening Chamber No.10

Oh, me? Jeff. 36. Currently living and working in Brussels, Belgium, but originally from England (London/Home Counties). Found IL* through Ned and Brian's advertising it on a Stereolab e-mail list to which I belong. So it's all their fault.

What I like:

"Classical" - JS Bach motets, Beethoven late string quartets and Symphony No.9, Schubert songs and late works, Tchaikovsky orchestral works, Debussy piano préludes, Bartok "Music For Strings Percussion and Celeste", Shostakovich symphonies, Herbert Howells church music, most any Berio, Feldman, George Crumb or Steve Reich

"Popular" - among my faves are records by Throwing Muses, Bernie Green and his orchestra, Public Enemy, A Certain Ratio, Orbital, Yes, Saint Etienne, Aphex Twin, Sister Sledge, The Waitresses, Beach Boys, Talking Heads, Marvin Gaye, Huggy Bear, Marumari, Kate Bush, Low, France Gall, Pink Floyd and Scritti Politti.

Jeff, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Since I've been posting here and there lately, thought this was appropriate. Not sure how I came upon ILM .. possibly through Bitchpork, that unofficial, dark-mirror-reflection of the Pitchfork web-board .. but it has already enriched my workdays quite a bit. To find a place where music in general is treated seriously, rather than canonically or callously ... I feel at home.

my tastes evolve through the diurnal and seasonal cycles .. in the morning, on the way to work, I'll want something hushed like Songs: Ohia or Aixx Em Klemm .. in the afternoon, when the sun is bright, I want liveliness .. some John Coltrane or the Clash, some Miles Davis Quintet or Pavement, Led Zep or Jethro Tull .. in the evening, I need dark, lush sounds, preferably with deep bass or intricate electronic textures. Likewise, in the spring I find myself more in the mood for upbeat pop, in the summer -- aggressive rawk .. now that it's the fall I'm digging out my old Cure and Depeche Mode tapes for driving, the Smiths, Joy Division, etc ... and in the winter I expect to be listening to polarities, both minimalist ambient and experimental noize, romantic-period 'classical' and industrial/synthpop ..

like the forum, I love music. Unfortunately, I don't play any instruments, though I entertain this mild fantasy of buying a dual-cd mixer and DJ'ing indie/electronica dance tunes sometime in the future. But I do enjoy writing music reviews for a site you may have heard of, Pitchforkmedia.com. Otherwise, I'm 24 as of autumn 2001, and live in a little basement apartment in Takoma Park, Maryland, just outside of D.C. I work in the city just two blocks from the White House, and have been making great efforts to restrain my paranoia and avoid holding my breath as I walk the streets and commute from the metro cars. Moving here from Florida seemed like such a great idea, two years ago..

Other interests include film, literature, politics, foreign policy, liberalism, comic books, nightclubbing, video games, and attempts to reconcile the communitarian/lefty/activist/ascetic side of my nature with the decadent, narcissistic pleasure-seeking devil on my other shoulder. The devil wins, more often than not. Can't quite blame it on me being a Gemini.

If you live in the area, or just want to reply to some obnoxious thing I've said in the forums, don't hesitate to comment. I love meeting new people, conversations, writing, etc.

cheers. chris.

Dare, Monday, 22 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am Lord Custos. You are not "cleared" to know more than that.

Lord Custos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh here it is. i should have posted here before but couldnt find it

ok i should be working on a take-home midterm...how am i always online here when i have work to do? so to make this short, i am 21 and am in los angeles enduring college but am not from here. i am a cliche since i am a "film student." i like lots of things but my favorites are tricky, (pre-2000)pj harvey and madonna. i am always reading music criticism of bands i have never heard in real life before, i really han't heard many of the things often talked about here. i am not an indie kid. i am into astrology. i know ally from before somewhere online, but i think she'll deny knowing me around here..

in other words, i am pretty pathetic, but i guess you figured that already.

i am uncircumcised

Vic, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oh yeah, as if you couldn't tell, i am extremely isolated and my life reads like an unlyrical and chaotic textbook-picture -snapshot on alienation, i am totally clining to the last vestiges of hope at this moment and i am addicted to the internet even though it has perpetually let me down in its function as a "lifeline," ..

as if you "couldn't" tell, ha.

Vic, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"oh yeah, as if you couldn't tell, i am extremely isolated and my life reads like an unlyrical and chaotic textbook-picture -snapshot on alienation, i am totally clining to the last vestiges of hope at this moment and i am addicted to the internet even though it has perpetually let me down in its function as a "lifeline," ..

you record emo music, right?

A portable model of,

Dare, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, then you certainly picked the right town to live in, Vic!

Arthur, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't know who is actually going to read through all these responses. I started, but even I am not that committed to wasting time online. However, I will still introduce myself, or my musical self.

I'm from the U.S. Grew up listening to what was on the radio and whatever records we had at home: mostly rock, R&B, soul, disco. Sesame Street songs. Church music. In 6th or 7th grade I dabbled with listening to jazz on the radio. Also around this (77/78) time I used to go to the rehearsals for a "punk" (using the word pretty loosely--some of what they covered was not punk at all, but they did play some Ramones and Clash songs, as well as early Elvis Costello "I'm Not Angry", but even that is stretching it) cover band whose leader was one of my brother's friends.

Around this time, my family moved and I discovered a college radio station I had never listened to before, and suddenly I was exposed to all sorts of music that was totally new to me: punk/new wave/industrial, reggae, free jazz, avant-garde/modern classical/experimental, electronic music, unfamiliar progressive bands (mostly European), traditional music from around the world, Medieval music, and perhaps a few things that don't fit into any of those categories. It was an education. (Around this time I was also very rapidly discovering modern poetry, something very exciting to me for several years after, but not, for the most part, something I enjoy currently.) The station became much less eclectic around 1990 (and I was listening to it less by then anyway), but by that point I already had been made aware of these sometimes invisible forms of music, so I knew what names to try to keep track of.

I was initially intrigued by acid house/techno (etc.) after becoming aware of it via Psychic TV around 1988. (I remember looking at a PTV disc with the words "Turn on/Tune in/The Acid House" with a friend, and both of us debating about whether it meant anything, and if so what.) Saw them eight times and don't regret it, although 99% of the recordings they released are crap. Psychic TV was kind of a 20's thing for me, and I am very ambivalent about how wrapped up I was in their work at the time. (Maybe I was really the victim of subliminal messages in their recordings?) I ended up becoming very turned off by most techno, and the various, related, mutating forms of electronic dance music (but I admit that there must be a lot of it I have not heard). Maybe if I had tried E, but I'm not interested in that now. (I have only one psychedelic experience to my credit, and it was not at a rave.) I also listened to a lot of hip-hop between 1988 and about 1992/93, but I got a bit tired of the homophobia, misogyny, anti-semitism, anti-white, pro-random-violence themes in much of the music. I still check in with it now and then, however.

Around 1993 I "discovered" Arabic music, which is not something I remember hearing on the radio (at least not the classically based popular music I have in mind). This has become some of my very music. I am thinking of individuals such as Oum Kalthoum, Riad el-Sonbatti (mostly known as a composer), Asmahan, Farid el Atrash, Fairouz, Said Mekawy, Mohammed Abdo, plus lesser lights such as Samira Tewfic, Milhem Barakat, Saleh Abdel Gafor, etc. I love this music for its expressiveness; its modal/microtonal approach; its complex rhythms; its often brilliant vocal technique; the color and texture of traditional instruments such as the oud, the ney, and the kanun; the emphasis on improvisation in much of it; and the fact that I can listen to the same piece repeatedly, but still hear something new.

And for the last four years I've been salsa dancing, with increasing seriousness (though I have been out for a while with a knee injury and am currently recovering from minor knee surgery), which has turned me on to salsa, and led me to discover some other Latin musical forms.

Listening to Arabic and Latin music intensively has altered my taste a lot, to the point where it's very hard for me to find new things closer to home, culturally speaking, that I really enjoy. I have more trouble making allowances for singers who can't sing, for one thing. I _have_ been listening to increasing amounts of Sun Ra over the past couple years, too, and he has gone from being just one eccentric artist I was aware of, to being one of my favorites.

I will never have enough money to buy all the CDs I want. Oum Kalthoum alone recorded hundreds of songs, many of them stretching out for a half hour to seventy-five minutes in live performances.

np: Kirsty MacColl "Tropical Brainstorm" (Nice bonus tracks only available on the U.S. release--ha!)

DeRayMi, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Well, then you certainly picked the right town to live in, Vic! "

to be uncircumcised in? hehe LA is such a wasteland. how long have you been here?

no i don't record any music, except i'm so graceful when i walk that the angels look down below make music when they see me coming

Vic, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

i am bob and i'm new - Hi! i'm 29 i live in london and make peanuts co-managing a couple of guitar shops. you may notice my postings as either very vague (ie no point) or flippant or inflammatory (no, actually not inflammatory at all). i like annoying asthma inhaler style music of all styles & am eqully at home with art gallery sound installion up its own arse music as i am with cheese pop i still race home for Top Of The Pops on friday night. I have a nasty exzema problem at the moment. I like pokemon. I like W S Burroughs, Haruki Murakami, PK Dick, gore vidal, ben marcus, will self etc book wise. film wise - well i used to have a major david lynch fixation but these days i really don't think he cuts it when compared to power rangers lost galaxy return of the magna defender for instance. i have a musical appreciation history of (roughly chronological) elo, jeff wayne's war of the worlds, jean michel jarre & vangelis, level 42 (yes, sorry), metallica, various metal & uk / us punk & "hard core" , industrial goth/ metal,butthole surfers & sonic youth & big black etc, free jazz, techno, experimental shit & daphne & celeste. is it that simple? what else do you need to know???

bob snoom, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My actual first name is Julia. I'm not admitting my age because I'm in a certain amount of denial, but every once I while I get carded buying alcohol. I'm a copyeditor and associate producer for music at the dot-com wing of a fairly well-known newspaper conglomerate.

Last CD acquired: The Dismemberment Plan, "Change" (but I'm underwhelmed with what I've heard so far). Favorite artists (active division): Firewater, Girls Against Boys, Mike Doughty. Favorites (RIP division): Afghan Whigs, Soul Coughing, Scarce, Jawbox, Long Fin Killie (rather disappointed with Bows). Rather curious about: Q and Not U, older D-Plan, the Standard. Loathe: nu-metal, female singers who are more about T&A and studio effects than vocal technique, bling-bling hip-hop. Suspect that bluegrass and alt-country and its offshoots are better than I'm willing to credit, but haven't taken the time to explore either.

I live in Washington, DC; I'm not attached and can't seem to attract any man's eye right now. Between this and people not following up to my posts in this and other forums, I sometimes wonder whether I really exist. If I truly have no existence outside of some fantasist's mind, I hope he or she enjoys my life a lot more than I do.

j.lu, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I was born somewhere in the lower right-hand corner of Michigan and have lived within that region since my birth in 1976. Apart from getting married in 2000, I have skillfully avoided most things. Occupationally, I divide my time between sorting things, correcting things, adding things, and making things up. I enjoy making things up so much that I occasionally do it in my spare time. The it in this case is Permafrost.

Andy, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

allmusic.com,hm

are you an amg writer ? who

Vic, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Di Ray Mi,

I've wanted to listen to more arabic music. Where would you recommend starting and where are the best sources? I've found a couple of websites dealing with but they seem to be a bit more on the 'poppier side' than I might like.

[quote]"Between this and people not following up to my posts in this and other forums, I sometimes wonder whether I really exist. If I truly have no existence outside of some fantasist's mind, I hope he or she enjoys my life a lot more than I do." Julia[/quote]

Whoah. Even scarier that I relate immediately to what your saying...

Myself, I'm mainly a lurker, coming here to find recommendations for music that I can (in theory) download off of the net. I have gone through periods of my life when I spent waayy too much on music, and, can't realistically keep that up. I would love CD prices to drop. Listening to music either seems to consume my life or be in it very little at all. I'm in the latter stage at the moment, no music at work, no time at home, it's beginning to piss me off. To console myself I need I think of the thousands upon thousands of years we humans didn't have any recorded music at all. What would they have had to speak to people about on message boards?

I love these 'intro' things. So many people willing to offer up snippets of there lives, so trustingly...(that came off sounding slightly psychopathic for some reason) Myself, I'm a cartoonist, making a living working at an ISP in rural Ontario. Actually in the town that is "the most perfect example of suburban/rural community in Canada" (I still remember this from school.) Have a fantasy that I one day lose my sight and have to discover my hidden musical talent that I've been to lazy to cultivate for the last 29 years. Constantly aspire to the level of confidence and happiness I felt when I was 10. Have also had a disturbing ongoing 'fantasy' (or nightmare I guess) that our entire civilization is on the verge of being destroyed by some terrible disaster. I suspect this has something to do with sept 11th, but also suspect that it's a very real possiblity.

Currently listening to a mixed bag of stuff that I've downloaded, including Wire, Nina Simone, Jackie Wilson, Tim Buckley, Air, Rufus Wainwright and I actually quite enjoy the new Depeche Mode, which I downloaded for my sister. Favourite album? Maybe "Here My Dear" mainly for the first 5 minutes, which always, without fail, makes me cry. I think it's a deeply profound album. When I do I get a chance to put on music I often listen to Cosmic Slop online, which has just the right mix of funkiness, obscurity and wierdness on which I thrive.

Okay, enuf sharing.

Alan Hunt, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

having read every posting on this thread in one sitting, kicked offline 3 times in the process, I am the WINNER of internet time-wasting!

Male, first-year law student with art history degree(?), I worship music. been a musician for about 15 years and have managed to craft about 3-4 songs that are not complete shite. it's nice to see such a diversity of input on this board.

my music: Sloan, Kruder & Dorfmeister, Detroit Cobras, Afghan Whigs, Dag Nasty, the Make-Up, Curtis Mayfield, Big Star, Beth Orton, Beta Band, James Brown, Doves, St. Germain, Mellow, Sea and Cake, Miles, Ivy.

Most recent disc purchased: Sloan-Pretty Together (rocks) Most recently wished I hadn't purchased: Arab Strap-red thread (pap)

Found this board through Momus. Probably underqualified to converse with some of you existentialist-philosopher types but too impatient not to post. If anyone knows of a good online mixtape exchange please point me in the right direction--I thirst for undiscovered music with an unholy burning lust.

Ian M, Wednesday, 14 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Living in London via most my life in Manchester.

Got too many Lou Barlow, Sonic youth, Ween and The Frogs records. I like Slayer and I like Lambchop.

I am excited by Boedekka, The Coral and the Moldy Peaches

Never really got into hip hop, but my first ever gig was LL Cool J... my second was The Macc Lads

Sonicred, Monday, 3 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three weeks pass...
hi, my name is todd burns and i run a website at http://www.o-h-j.com

i like nearly all kinds of music, but focus in on IDM, indie, and classical, for the most part.

feel free to email me if you're interested in writing music reviews for the website that i run, we're always "hiring" for volunteers.

todd burns, Sunday, 30 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

hi, i like this forum a lot. music: i like a lot of sparkly disco, nu- dancehall, glitch dub, dirty south electro crunk funk, cyborg-soul, machine warrior pop, and raging speedhorn. this be the website that i co- author. peace.

jack cable, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

HelenFordsdale: As most musicians, I steal from the best and then mix up those elements to come up with a strange derivative hybrid. I hide under the rubble, sniff out Richard Hell bootlegs while trying to cover up my scratchy Wham! records. The no wave screetching guitars send me up the walls.

helenfordsdale, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am obsessed with music, that should be all you need to know.

Chris Noble, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link


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