Tony Wilson, RIP.

marcello, brilliant as ever; http://cookham.blogspot.com/2007/08/liberation-doesnt-have-to-hurt-tony.html

I'd refer him to my comment re Blue Monday losing money above, if he were here, but hey.

and he'd probably tell you not to fucking try it.

happy days.

that's a fantastic piece by marcello. i've just skimmed it there; i shall read it properly anon. thank you for the link, acrobat.

i miss marcello round these parts. hey ho.

I don't.

LOL at him seeing the Sex Pistols on So It Goes while on a "childhood holiday" in the Granada broadcast region. Prepostrous Tales in the life of Marcello Carlin.

4 MARCELLO

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5162/eazy2ll7.jpg

Apparently the coffin was labeled FAC 501 - the last FAC number

So right.

And I love details like these:

Hooky pointed out that the invite-only memorial was "pretty boring" compared to Rob's free-for-all. Others bemoaned the use of 'Atmosphere' when Wilson had wanted 'Ceremony'.

Ha! Good lord, that's a good quote.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/

"In celebration of the late great Tony Wilson, Pete Tong and Mike Pickering present a special essential mix of Factory Records and Hacienda classics."

listenagain-able for the rest of the week

I keep clicking back here hoping for news on BBC4's comprehensive tribute.

Or something similar.

so who enjoyed the Factory documentary?

BBC Four, Friday 21st September 2007
http://www.bbc.co.uk/musictv/factory/

Oh tell us afterwards! Thanks a bunch!

Right: IT'S BEING REPEATED AT 02:20 UK TIME!!!!

re: Oh tell us afterwards! Thanks a bunch!

hang on ! I plugged it on my blog earlier this week !

blogs are nice, but they are not "this thread"

No worries anyway, there's hardly anyone here at the moment.

Sigh, I know I will lose with the goddamn time zone differences once again.

I can't bear to read all that right now. Can't I just see the documentary like so many others? So much to ask. Oh well, if anyone has a link directly to the damn thing, let me know. :)

Stephen Morris: the surprise star of the show! Esp the Rob Gretton impressions.

Shaun Ryder's 'London record label wanker poshboy' voice a close second.

OTM re: Stephen Morris and Shaun Ryder.

I thought the voice-over narration was a bit weak, though; I know they felt they needed a Manc to do it, but couldn't they have got someone who doesn't sound so, I dunno, cheery?

Thirded re. Stephen and Shaun! Shaun's hat-over-ears look was, um, yeah. Poor Tony's voice sounded awful weedy for a loudmouth. The whole programme made me *extremely* homesick for Manchester.

It also reminded me of those bloody posts around the dancefloo in the Hacienda, which were exactly at groin height.

Tony was overdoing the swearing a bit. In contrast, I think Stephen Morris said "bloody" once then look dead embarrassed about it. The New Order lads were all "top" and "sorted". Shaun Ryder's poshboy voice was ace. Also Paul Ryder's story about Shaun stealing chairs from Eddy Grant's studio to give the local crackheads something to sit on.

good to hear from tony that the happy mondays invented acid house.

You expect the truth from Tony Wilson!??!?!

I liked it when Vini Reilly called Hooky a cheeky bugger too.

good point tom.

vini looks like a middle aged lady.

What was John Robb doing on it? He's from Blackpool, isn't he? Why is John Robb on anything tho? I've never seen a more ill-at-ease person on telly ever... 'cept maybe John Tindall, the old NF/BNP guy

He also uttered the phrase "spokesperson for his generation".

Why is John Robb on anything tho alive?

What's John Robb doing on anything?

I watched it from 30 mins onwards. The bit I liked most ws when Ryder ws describing the battle of the bands event they had. The Mondays came last but Wilson announced that they came first.

"Who gives a fuck what they think?"

xp

haha I only read it from Tom's first question.

I missed this show but I need to see it over the weekend. Did they have Shaun and Paul in the same studio? I've been watching Youtube clips of pre-Pills'n'Thrills Mondays this morning and they're still completely thrilling and kinda sad to see them so young and (relatively) un-fucked-up.

No, they were almost all individual interviews.

No one ws in the same room, I think. That goes for any members of the Mondays as for members of New Order. (xp)

Another good one ws when Mike Pickering guy ws describing the end of the Hacienda as the all the helicopters flew over and just at that moment you heard the sound of a plane as he ws talking.

Shaun was fairly lucid and un-fucked-up in this.

Bernard Sumner slowly transmorgifying into Rowley Birkin w/ his drinker's red cheeks and nose.

Paul Ryder going on about how he liked going to a virtually dead Hacienda as a way of getting away from the crowds and "Balloon-heads".

cocks: i missed this. fuck. been overdosing a bit on factory stuff recently, mind -- the barney book and then re-watching 24HPP twice (second time with the wilson commentary) so ... heh, maybe just as well.

that said, i'm searching for a trrnt of it now ... if anyone knows of one and can link me up, that'd be great.

Just checked my DVD recorder..

Now, what I have to do is to programme my TV to come on at 02:20 am, off at 03:50 and get the recorder to do likewise.

Funnily enough, it worked!

Will watch it tonight.

fucking thing doesn't appear to be out there anywhere :(

ah, good ... two more repeats, both on BBC4 (again):

monday 24th 9pm
wednesday 25th 1.30am

hurrah.

also: madchen, i'm thinking about hoying back to MCR/the north-west for a weekend of japery at some point (including a visit to club clique). we should organise this PROPERLY. a convoy, or something.

Beware of repeats early in the morning on BBC4 - unless you like watching someone signing - and of course you may be deaf so fair-dos.

Agree to everything so far written. I was feeling pretty depressed when I sat down to it and thought this isn't going to do me any good at all - Curtis, Gretton, Hannett, Wilson all gone. Tony's condition reminding me of my dad in his last few days but it actually had the opposite effect (rather as watching 24hpp does) - it was great to see Wilson still being "Tony Wilson" and I could have watched Steve Morris all night.

And despite his dyed hair Vini Reilly actually looked better than when I last saw him when he looked very down on his luck sitting in a coffee shop. I nearly gave him some money.

Beware of repeats early in the morning on BBC4 - unless you like watching someone signing - and of course you may be deaf so fair-dos.

pardon? sorry, son, you'll have to speak up.

©1993 shit internet jokes inc

Mine seems OK

Just watched this - absolutely great. Quite sad to see Tony Wilson obviously on the way out.

Shaun Ryder's 'London record label wanker poshboy' voice - fantastic!

What was John Robb doing on it?...I've never seen a more ill-at-ease person on telly ever - never mind ill at ease, he just looks like a twat. That's got to be the worst haircut ever. I saw him at some service station near Bristol last month: there was this brief moment when we made eye-contact and I recognised him but couldn't remember who he was or why I knew him and I nearly said 'hello', but didn't. That's a great story that needs a bit of work on it.

John Robb "yeah, it was the pivotal moment in UK music history for us! (ok, I wasn't actually there but anyway..)

Tony came across like he'd been told yesterday he didn't have long.

Only thing wrong was that it could have been another hour long, and covered more bands (even if as footnotes).

Oh, I did see that Joy Division's "Love will tear us apart" has been reissued in "facsimile" 7" and "not the same" CD single, "For AHW" marked on the 7" a-side label.