101 reasons why punk sucks

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I am really, really, really bored by most punk rock these days.
I was way into punk in high school, but now so much of it sounds the same, the politics are bland and unconvincing, and the whole thing seems like a lame pose. Also, it's too fast most of the time. And recorded poorly.

ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

Most punk is dull and drunk and thuddy. I prefer taut and sinewy and volatile.

There's so much great punk stuff that fits both these bills, new and old. And both can be done badly or, er.... radly. Overall, the points about dismissing shit according to genre pretty much sum things up.

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

xpost Rabies/Matt..... I've also been curious about which new country stuff is great. I live in the UK, but it seems that many people who consider themselves country fans need to add a disclaimer about '....but none of this slick new stuff etc.'. It seems like one of the most (presumably unfairly) maligned musics out there. Which typically means there's load of great stuff going unnoticed!

gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

wrt new country stuff...most of my experience w/it is from a good friend of mine that only listens to country and he really keeps track of stuff, he doesn't really like "alt country" at all, so it's mostly mid to low level new country dudes from the south....here's the tracklist of a mix he made for me that i really enjoyed, might give you some stuff to seek out (obv a few you've probably heard of but most probably not)

Longfall - Lost Trailers
Out of Here Tonight Great Divide
Jar of Clay - Pinmonkey
Another Six Pack Under - Rick Trevino
Georgia Hard - Robbie Fulks
Hair of the Dog - Shooter Jennings
10 Years Pass - Sunny Sweeney
18 Wheels - Fred Eaglesmith
Empty Seat Behind Me - Chris Wall & Reckless Kelly
30 Years Crazy - Cisco & the Reasons Why
Houston - Doug Moreland
Showman's Life - Buddy Miller
Devil Behind the Wheel - Chris Knight
Really Never Loved Her Anyway - Trent Summar
I Hung My Head - Blue Highway
Vegas - Two Tons of Steel
Calling All Cars - Mike McClure
Different Today - Hacienda Brothers
State Line - Cooder Graw
Whiskey Wings - Dean Miller
Low Down - Hank Williams III

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

30 Years Crazy - Cisco & the Reasons Why

this song is so fucking great i love it.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

And recorded poorly.

that's pretty harsh coming from a siltbreeze fan!

Edward III, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

I stumbled across some thrashy punk record label from arizona on myspace recently and friended them. it's fun, like finding a stegosaurus in your rose bush.

Edward III, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Haha, I was reading the titles/artits backwards and I thought there was a Jars Of Clay song on there. M@tt, thanks, this should be awesome. I'm not really into alt-country either, so possibly his tastes and mine are somewhat aligned.

I am really, really, really bored by most punk rock these days.
I was way into punk in high school, but now so much of it sounds the same, the politics are bland and unconvincing, and the whole thing seems like a lame pose. Also, it's too fast most of the time. And recorded poorly.

-- ian, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 14:00 (2 hours ago) Link

I can't stomach most of the political soapboxing in punk so I avoid that stuff. There's a ton where that's completely non-existent so it's not an issue. I guess if you don't care for the fidelity that can be a problem, it's pretty much an intentional aesthetic a lot of the time... unless you're Turbo Negro (these days) or the Black Halos or something. And if you can distance yourself, which is pretty impossible sometimes, the lame pose is part of the appeal, part of the charm.

I went through a similar trial, I got into punk initially in high school (lol punk-o-rama), and like a lot of people I became disillusioned. You know, the big mistake of trying to take 19-year-old Ian MacKaye seriously, and, for me, getting out of my town of 4,000 and meeting "punks" did not help. It really took some years, and it took discovering some new bands (and bands that were new to me) to get back into it. Basically it was finding Killed By Death comps and termbo, and some of the weirder-flavored bands that sparked it again for me.

RabiesAngentleman, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

that should read, "titles/artists"

RabiesAngentleman, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

reason numba' one-oh-one: sid vicous's mum

t**t, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

punk's DIY philosophy = classic
punk rock = meh (for the most part)
punks = super duper dud

rockapads, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 17:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

Is rave now becoming part of the political and media establishment?

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 12:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

it? It is.

how's life, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks punk rock you did a good job and often still do

l0u1s j0rdan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

good posts in this thread, matt :)

flopson, Wednesday, 2 May 2012 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink


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