Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

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Oscar the Grouch might be a good compromise - a little raw and rough without being too Cookie Monster.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

or if he sang like Bert and went out on another solo tour. Wait, then he'd be....

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread could use a couple thousand more posts.

deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Is being dull worse than being bad? Just wondering what the difinitive ILM opinion is on this. I'd rather listen to bad than dull...

"Bad" is a thousand times more preferrable than "dull".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

just wondering--how many pages into a "Dave Matthews Band" google search does it take to get to this thread?


by the way, i just want to say that i'm still fairly new to the board and feel deeply grateful for the fact that many of you have lumped DMB together with other mediocre and annoying bands i hate like Pearl Jam, Counting Crows, Phish, John Mayer, Hootie and Blowfish and U2...it's not everyday that i get to meet such great people such as yourselves.....*sniff*

okay, now i'm getting emotional.....

waxyjax (waxyjax), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 00:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I honestly don't understand how it can be perceived as dull. Are we speaking post Crash?

Allison (Allison), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

EVERYONE LISTEN TO BOREDOMS AND SELL ME DRUGS

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:07 (nineteen years ago) link

just wondering--how many pages into a "Dave Matthews Band" google search does it take to get to this thread?

I searched for -Dave Matthews Band- and could not find this thread in the results.

Then I searched -I Love Dave Matthews Band- and still did not find it.

I then searched -Dave Matthews Band hated- and only found some references to this thread, but not the thread itself.

Finally, searching -"Dave Matthews Band : Name your reasons"- and found four tenuous references to this thread, but not the thread itself.

This thread does not exist. Please delete.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Any funny crap?

GET TO THA' (PRICE) CHOPPA!!!!!!!! ROFFLE!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i did a quick search under "dave matthews hate"

nothing too funny, but i found an interesting review on one of his albums...here are some quotes:

http://www.ironminds.com/ironminds/issues/010321/tunes.shtml
For these reasons, the Dave Matthews Band has been successfully filling a niche that’s existed just as long as indistinguishable radio pop — Earnest Rock. And although this niche can make you rich, fat and happy, it’s much more distressing than anything ’NSync could think up.
Earnest Rock was the great unwritten-about musical trend of the ’90s — mostly because rock critics couldn’t summon the interest to dissect such blindingly mediocre records. Earnest Rock, as performed by groups like Hootie and the Blowfish and Counting Crows, thrives as a reaction to the overblown tendencies of the musical extremes elsewhere in the marketplace. While this brand of music might be more “meaningful” than, say, Destiny’s Child, it’s also achingly dull in comparison to the catharsis and passion fueling a Nirvana or a PJ Harvey (or a Le Tigre or a Yo La Tengo)....

...It can’t even be discussed on its own merits because, really, it can’t exist by itself. It’s Plan B. It’s just there. Which is worse, much worse, than sucking.

waxyjax (waxyjax), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

"At its worst, Earnest Rock congratulates itself for its sober, conventional feel and presents its timid predictability as a mark of authenticity. It’s for people scared of Moby."

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I searched "Dave Matthews hate", and found this thread's parallel universe sibling:


Subject: RE: Dave Matthews Obsession
From: Dave is AMAZING
Date: 09-Oct-03
Message: ok, first of all, a lot of you people who are dave bashing all are hypocritical asses. Don't give me that crap about dave matthews being a racist and not having any talent. Why don't you get your damn facts straight before YOU start sounding IGNORANT...oh...wait...i think it's a little too late for that. Dave was born in south africa and like most of the normal people on this message board said....dave's music comes from the experience of hearing the music of south africa. and what's the crap about having all his "black" members stand behind him on stage...well..let me give you a little wake up call......go to a dave concert asses and take a look. he steps away and lets boyd (the guy on the electric fiddle) take the stage. So YET AGAIN you are WRONG. I am not going to bash marilyn manson or whatever music you listen to. What i am going to say is Dave is a brillian musician, and songwriter. Ever listen to his lyrics? they have so much MEANING to them....got that... M E A N I N G! So take a chance and listen to his music before you go and start with the dave hate.....cut the crap.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

.. with relatively few grammar & spelling mistakes.

Alas, this thread shall never die when we are belssed by the likes of:
"go to a dave concert asses and take a look."

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 13 May 2004 11:07 (nineteen years ago) link

you forgot to include "faget" in there.

waxyjax (waxyjax), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ICP IS THE BEST BANF

Chris 'The Velvet Bingo' V (Chris V), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"Ever listen to his lyrics? they have so much MEANING to them....got that... M E A N I N G!"

briania, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I suppose "AntiChrist Superstar", or whatever music I listen to, has no M E A N I N G .?

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

HIPPIES RULE, DMB is awesome, you all that "hate" DMB are just jealous that he is a successful musician, and made something out of his life unlike you.

Ihatepeoplethataresorryforthemselves, Thursday, 13 May 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought hippies were supposed to be all passive, peace-loving and non-judgemental! Wow...I'm so disillusioned now.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link

So wait if people hate on us by telling us that we hate DMB because we're jealous then that means that they're hating on us because they're jealous, right? They are convicted by their own logic, you are Colly Cibber and I claim my five pounds

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Things I am Clearly Just Jealous of:

1) Dave Matthews Band
2) Sexually Transmitted Diseases
3) Pitchforkmedia (This one might actually be true)
4) The weather in Chicago
5) Jeff Probst
6) Middle English
7) The thieves that broke into my car and stole 10 recently purchased indie rock CDs with almost no resale value

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i do like ICP more than DMB.

tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link

and they ARE the best BANF, apparently

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Friday, 14 May 2004 03:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex wins.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 14 May 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Things I am Clearly Just Jealous of:
1) Dave Matthews Band
2) Sexually Transmitted Diseases
3) Pitchforkmedia (This one might actually be true)
4) The weather in Chicago
5) Jeff Probst
6) Middle English
7) The thieves that broke into my car and stole 10 recently purchased indie rock CDs with almost no resale value

at 6:51 am
i LOL'd @ this.

and thought 'damn, this thread shall NERVER die!'

wait...nerver, neevren, noovren, nevren...
shit.

i hate hate.
where's my coffee?

eedd, Saturday, 15 May 2004 09:53 (nineteen years ago) link

everyone gets so caught up in being different that they stop liking music based on what appeals to them. If bands like kittie really tickled your fancy and you found the latest justin timberlake song really appealing, you may be hesitant to express your feelings about the song. I really hate when people are so insecure with themselves that they have to pretend to be some1 else to save their image. so in all honesty, are you saying that you hate dmb because you genuinley dislike his music, or just to be different from all the 'yuppies'.


HOWEVER- if you are looking for some songs to download, do these-
nething by ani defranco, creedence clearwater revival, led zepplin
taylor/rodeo clowns-jack johnson
i believe in a thing called love- the darkness
meant to live- switchfoot
so much to say- dmb
so good- better than ezra (FUCKMEYEAHTHATSAGOODBAND)

haha- those are like my favorite bands and i dont care if u love them or hate them- those bands are what i love to listen to

erin, Monday, 17 May 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Our musical tastes may not match, but our musical attitudes do. Yay Erin!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 May 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG PLEEEEEASE tell me more about this band "The Darkness" has ne1 herd of them?

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"are you saying that you hate dmb because you genuinley dislike his music"

Yes, they are unexcusably bland and uninteresting to my ears.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"Yes, they are unexcusably bland and uninteresting to my ears."

are u basing this on songs you have heard on the radio, or have you actually taken the time to listen to one of his cds?

'OMG PLEEEEEASE tell me more about this band "The Darkness"'

they are britsh. haha, the music videos are kinda sketchy but i heart their music. if you like them then also go for 'the dandy warhols' and rhcp... maybe even sublime

erin, Monday, 17 May 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Erin, bless your incredibly trusting heart.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, erin's complete, dewy-eyed faith in humankind has completely converted me. I'm going to go buy "Permission to Land" and "Remember Two Things" right now. Seriously.

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Be bold, sir.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

are u basing this on songs you have heard on the radio, or have you actually taken the time to listen to one of his cds?

Trying again, I got halfway through Everyday and promptly fell asleep.

I can't get over how uninteresting they've become. I remember thinking there was at least something interesting there the first time I heard anything from Under the Table....

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

o boy, you ppl are mean. im an optimist... kill me. you dont HAVE to like dmb! may i just add (at the risk of being ridiculed by dieblucasdue) that this thread should have never have lasted this long! some ppl like dmb, and others dont... MOVE ON TO SOMETHING A BIT MORE INTELLECTUALLY STIMULATING!!!

erin, Monday, 17 May 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Now I'm just confused. You thought I was being nice when I was being mean, and being mean when I was being nice. Seriously, I applaud your optimism.

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

iraqi abuse scandal, ne1?


Dieblucasdie- i am not the most intuitive person and i have problems determining srcasm from sincerity thru tone of type!

erin, Monday, 17 May 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Erin asked:
are u basing this on songs you have heard on the radio, or have you actually taken the time to listen to one of his cds?

Erin, I'm going to re-post a statement of mine from wa-hey back in 2003 (last June) that addresses your question:

Should it require more than a few CDs and singles to form an opinion of this band? If their readily available material (presumably the music the band felt most satisfied with to represent them) fails to create a favorable impression, why do you have such a seemingly damn hard time fathoming how -- for even a nanosecond -- that you may actually indeed be mistaken in your assertion that the DMB's music is anything other than bog-fucking-standard?

-- Alex in NYC ( vassifer@earthlink.net ), June 14th, 2003.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:22 (nineteen years ago) link

alex- o i am sry, i didnt read that! maybe because i havent been responding to one thread for almost a year now.

erin, Monday, 17 May 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a dang long thread, Erin, no need for apologies. Moreover, you really shouldn't be taking any of this particularly seriously. I catch massive amounts of grief for much of the stuff like (well, one band in particular). Listen to what you like, and don't worry about it. I don't necessarily lament the DMB, just their idiotic fans who suggest that they re-invented the wheel.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

haha! thanks, you're right too. i love dmb but the ppl that "woo" really loudly when they hear their name really piss me off. BUT i do want to say that they do put on the best concert that i have ever seen. just imagine how cool it would have been if i had neting better than a lawn seat.


and because i have left like 20 messages today i feel like i need to explain. i am home alone and sick. i finished alphabetizing our refrigerator (achooo) and i started searching for dmb mp3s, this popped up.

erin, Monday, 17 May 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Did you find this thread via google or a DMB message board?
Try clicking 'New Answers' at the top of the page for more interesting threads, Erin.

Mr Google, Monday, 17 May 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

ok. let's settle this once and for all. Dave matthews? he kicks ass. anyone who disagrees can shut up and go listen to some crappy music of their choosing. listen to crash, the whole album, straight through, and u'll understand why dmb kicks ass in every way. thank you for your cooperation.

drew, Monday, 17 May 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

ok. let's settle this once and for all. Dave matthews? he kicks ass.

Whew. Now I can quit reading this thread.

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 17 May 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex, you know you're big when someone will spend an hour in Photoshop just to piss you off.

dieblucasdie (dieblucasdie), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a template

24 hours with the King of Snake. (SNAKE!) (ex machina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

ok. let's settle this once and for all. Dave matthews? he kicks ass.

thank you God, thank you God, thank you God - I knew if I waited long enough this thread would give me a really hard case of the giggles again

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 01:14 (nineteen years ago) link

That's the best improbable Olsen recommendation yet.

ferg (Ferg), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link


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