AV Club gives this an A-.
― Don Homer (kingfish), Thursday, 15 July 2010 00:56 (2 years ago) Permalink
sitting through Gamer all i could think was how much academics could and would have a field day with it. awful stuff though.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Wednesday, July 14, 2010 4:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― latebloomer, Thursday, 15 July 2010 08:57 (2 years ago) Permalink
going for midnight tonight, on not-IMAX. Stoked.
― Simon H., Thursday, 15 July 2010 18:33 (2 years ago) Permalink
this is raadddddddd
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 03:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
there are a couple things that dont work and a huge (i think) plot hole but d-d-d-d-damn mostly it is just sweet
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 03:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
Watched Gamer and Law Abiding Citizen back to back with a friend one night. Incredibly masochistic, but pretty glad I did it. I thought the one thing Gamer did get right was the internet - an amalgamation of facebook, counter-strike and porn.
Actually also watched the opening sequence at uni - for a Sound Design class.
― lowwave (S-), Friday, 16 July 2010 04:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
still dont "get" the whole "limbo" thing? if you can just get out of it by killing yourself, why did leo and marion stay there for like 50 years? or did they never leave????????????
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 05:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
just got back. this was awesome. amazed I followed so well at this early in the a.m. and already being exhausted. loved the surreal nature of it...must see this again as I think it'll uncover more things.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
dude help me figure out the limbo thing
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
@max -- I think the concept behind "limbo" was that it was raw mental activity, and you don't necessarily know right away that you're in it. Which makes sense as to why Leo's character had to 'plant' the thought in his wife's mind that the world wasn't real.
My interpretation is that Marion and Leo did leave. but, the Japanese guy was then in limbo since he then died before the "kick". they never showed him offing Leo, so whether they actually woke up at the end is debatable, as evidenced by them not showing whether the top stopped spinning.
Good lord I'm going crosseyed.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah i think that's where im at too--it was confusing as to whether or not ppl understood they were in limbo. and yeah the sense i got was the leo didnt leave at the end, cf the whole "you never know how you got to the place where you are in dreams" thing
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
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Agreed. It took me thinking for a full half hour on this, but I interpreted that they didn't know they were in limbo, or they did know, but limbo was so "blissful" in comparison to regular dreams, that nobody dared want to return. I'm leaning towards the latter now.
Just wow though.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
this film was fuckin nuts
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yea. I'm glad I had a 40 something ounce soda to pump caffeine into me, because once ounce of fatigue, and I would have fallen too far behind to catch up.
Man that kid that used to be on Third Rock from the Sun was pretty awesome too
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:28 (2 years ago) Permalink
gf was swooning over him the whole movie
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:29 (2 years ago) Permalink
was it just me or did it seem like ellen page brought her own wardrobe to the set, it was like everyone dressed in these perfect retro suits and shirts and then theres fuckin JUNO in her g-damn bandana
heh I did notice that.
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(not really but I'm being safe)
It is kind of amusing to think that sans about 5 minutes, all of the action in the movie happened in a dream.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
i liked this but it had the potential to be more.
it was mostly good though!
― San Te, Friday, July 16, 2010 7:28 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
seriously! he was really good.
― latebloomer, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
I've decided I ain't going to sleep. I have to be up in 3 hours to get ready for work. maybe a 1.5 hour nap. Ugh this movie! I'm going to go find me a totem now.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 07:55 (2 years ago) Permalink
This wasn't about dreams as much as it was about navigating the rules of created worlds (the dream landscapes in the movie are even called levels like in video games. Not a spoiler.) It's basically a bigger, explodey-er, less squicky re-imagining of Cronenberg's eXistenZ as a heist movie.
The emotional beats felt kinda flat to be honest, but the spectacle was exhilarating.
― latebloomer, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
yeah emotions were totally empty
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
nolan doesnt really give a shit about emotions as far as i can tell. everything in this movie is about bodies moving around in space--even ideas are given literal embodiment. tons and tons of machines doing machine-y things.
― max, Friday, 16 July 2010 09:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
score is all loud n shit
the surrealism works quite in its favor though.
btw guys my dreams were FUCKED UP -- I got maybe 2.5 hours of sleep and I pretty much dreamed I was doing what the characters in the movie were doing.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 13:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
just can't bring myself to roll the dice on this
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 July 2010 13:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
do we have a leo dicaprio: c or d thread
― kim jong-ill (cozen), Friday, 16 July 2010 13:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
This wasn't about dreams as much as it was about navigating the rules of created worlds
When Leo was teaching Juno how to make dreamscapes it seemed a lot like teaching someone how to make films. Create an immersive and realistic world but without directly ripping off something else, plant ideas in it for the audience to work out themselves without realising you're manipulating them, and don't mess around with the laws of physics too much because it'll make people want to physically hurt you.
― 8 (88), Friday, 16 July 2010 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm really looking forward to seeing this again, to see what else might be gleaned from a repeat viewing.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
― rent, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:04 (2 years ago) Permalink
this was amazing
I'm glad to hear some ilxors fawning, because it seems more and more negative reviews are rolling out over the past two days.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
NPR hated it.
Some of the press I take with a grain of salt. Namely these gems:
"None of this prattling drivel adds up to one iota of cogent or convincing logic. You never know who anyone is, what their goals are, who they work for or what they're doing.--Rex Reed
Uhm, I'm not exactly the best at keeping up with fast-developing movies, and I understood what was going on and had a vested interest in it. Talk about a smug "I didn't get it, so nobody will" review.
"Inception may have been directed by Christopher Nolan, but Nolan's dreams are apparently directed by Michael Bay.
Ahh, yes, because all surreal action sequences=Michael Bay.
With that being said, I do understand to a degree why some don't like it. It really depends on how you feel about emotionally detached, mechanical cinema. Most of the critique I see targets the stunted emotional content, which is a fair point (just not one that I personally cared about).
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
sorry that second review was from Salon.com
great costumes in this
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Friday, 16 July 2010 17:21 (2 years ago) Permalink
I'm at work right now and all I can think of is the last 30 minutes of this movie. that does it, I gotta go again tonight. I'm not a big "see movies multiple times" in the theatre guy, but Nolan seems to have that effect on me.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
a lot of the complaints seem to be that it has no heart/is all cerebral sleight-of-hand. the scene near the end (or, at the bottom?) between leo and [his memory of] his wife, where he rejects his own projection of her, reminds her that they did grow old together (but is really talking to and maybe forgiving himself) was pretty moving...the stuff with the kids felt a little unreal throughout, which in retrospect makes sense.
this could have been a disaster many times over, but i felt like i was watching someone at the very top of their game operating with complete comfort and even flair in areas where a wrong move in any direction could topple the whole house of cards, which was pretty exhilarating. so many good scenes!
― rent, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
yea really the emotional center of the movie is Leo, and the other players really revolve around him and his aenema. I'm fine with that too.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 17:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
it was all kinda
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Friday, 16 July 2010 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink
Thoroughly enjoyed it. Lots to think about. Would definitely want to see it again reasonably soon.
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― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
Or not of.
this was pretty great. haters to the left.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:52 (2 years ago) Permalink
Henry, please explain that picture reference to us philistines.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 19:53 (2 years ago) Permalink
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I'm torn on whether the top fell. At least three times it buckled as if it was going to, but then didn't. The look on Leo's face when he returned to his house and saw his kids hinted that it might not have -- he seemed confused and disoriented, although that could also be attributed to seeing your kids for the first time in years.
In addition, he looked surprised when he woke up, as if he didn't know how he got there...which was different than the reactions of everyone else when they woke up (ie, their eyes opened, and they looked alert and relatively calm).
As far as how much of it was real, I'm pretty convinced that it was mostly real, but who can tell, really? Since the movie was playing on the "reality is what you know" theme (which has been done frequently), if you wanted to get real analytical, you could assume that the *rules* Leo explained were in the dream rather than reality, and then none of it was real!
I tend to go for the literal approach and assume it was all real except for possibly the reunion with his children, and of course the dream within dream sequences.
God I can't wait to see this again.
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, the last 45 minutes were nothing if not zero gravity D.W. Griffith.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 July 2010 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink
hey guyz what if the movie iznt real?
― San Te, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
Zero-gravity JGL is all-time great. That fight scene was astonishing, and played so low-key in so many ways, too.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
This thread should be renamed Incept-SPOILER SPOILERS SPOIILLLLLLEERSS
― Cunga, Friday, 16 July 2010 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILERXXXXXXXXXAt one point quite early on, when I registered the top and that it was Mal's, I wondered whether maybe everything was Cobb inside her dream.
I'm convinced that Juno's name in the film is toomsignificant her her to be anything but a subconscious projection. DiCaprio as Theseus, Cotillard as Minotaur.
― Captain Ostensible (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 16 July 2010 20:12 (2 years ago) Permalink