100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

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bit on the emo side today are we jess

(kidding kidding please don't yell at me)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:31 (twenty years ago) link

I sense bitterness.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

I had to say something

no you didn't

There's no law against him intruding into 'your' thread. I like it when people ignore the petty strictures of thread makers. You can always edit out his comment when/if you revise your web page if you think it spoils the 'momentum' (oh and because his post didn't have a number, let's not forget that).

― David (David), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

bit on the emo side today are we David

(not actually kidding, my response to Dan was in the spirit fun, not the fun-free dour game yer bringin' - also, this stopped being my thread at #100 if not before, and I uploaded last night)

(ps please number your contributions, thanks)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

I said if you update it. Some of the numbered posts above 100 are a lot better than some of the earlier ones.

― David (David), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:40 (twenty years ago) link

Once I saw the thread had gone up on the website I felt much less guilt about saying something. Then I thought to myself, "Why the hell should I feel guilt about expressing my feelings on this song?"

In the spirit of the thread I'll say one positive thing:

122. The song doesn't go on for 20 minutes.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:45 (twenty years ago) link

123) The "check it out!" - we're having fun in the verses, but here comes that chorus again!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

The song doesn't go on for 20 minutes.

124) but the version I just finished putting together in AcidPro does and is winging its way toward your inbox even as we speak

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

125) just kidding

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

126. The song inspires much Darn1elle comedy at my expense.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

127) music makes the people come together

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

128) Dan you know I love you & besides anything I ever say against you is only 'cause I'm jealous that you've got a harvard.edu address

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

129) not actually being sarcastic there, neither

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

Time for the '100 Reasons the '100 Reasons' Thread Is So Damned Great' thread --

*Jess beats Ned down*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

128. I mean, freakin weekend? finally. Like so what I'm drunk. I just had some shitty time, around tuesday, there was like one thousand plus people outside the courthouse and I thought, oh um, damn, and how can I get outta this, am I getting outta this. Wednesday afternoon a fed ex came, fed-exed, saw a copy of the videotape, why did I make that goddamn videotape, and it was hot, but, you know. why. and thursday met with lawyers, whole team of them bleedin me dry, goddamn, they bleedin me dry, and will get me off, will get me off. and friday the deposition did not go well DID NOT GO WELL, so I came home and ironed creases into my jeans and popped in a 5 carat stone into my ear ($50,000), and hit the ride, and hit the poolside, and hit the coke and rum, and hit the bitches (remind me of my Lexus), and hit the bar, and now here I am in the lobby, and oh yeah like so what I'm drunk.

― scott m (mcd), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:13 (twenty years ago) link

130) that drum, that drum, dear god that drum. Everything dance music has to teach (soul) about quickening the pulse, in one second.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:16 (twenty years ago) link

131. What drum? THERE IS NO DRUM; this is one of my main gripes with the song.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:18 (twenty years ago) link

132) Scott that was so, so good, God bless you

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:20 (twenty years ago) link

133) "we just thuggin this out", as blatantly false a statement as you are likely to find this year.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:22 (twenty years ago) link

134) and where, exactly, are we just thuggin' this out? oh yeah: "on the reeeeemix"

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

Also, for such an allegedly-catchy song I'm having a really difficult time remembering how it goes.

134. I haven't heard this song in a few weeks (I want to listen to it now!) but reading through this thread brings the whole beautiful thing back. (Also, as someone who's only recently started listening to Top 40 radio again, that's how I knew it was a good song: after I heard it once, it was in my head all the damn time.)

135. I was just singing it a few minutes ago with a 21-year-old African-American girl I work with. She sang most of it; I did some bass harmony on "after party" and "hotel lobby."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link

...this thread IS meant as a sarcastic joke, isn't it...? Isn't it?

Sheesh - the wit, wonder and wisdom of R Kelly?

Please..........

― russ t, Monday, 16 June 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

137) "we just thuggin this out" is 2003's "dancin, yeah, real hardcore" from the dodger's "rewind"...hardman sentiments pressed into the service of the soppiest mid-tempo fluff of the year, crooned in ultra-sucrose swingbeat style

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:28 (twenty years ago) link

What drum?

138. (oh alright then). Dan he means (I think) those periodic beefy snare rolls that, as well as giving an exciting lift at various points, also serve to fill in the gap between 'and' and 'somebody' on the last line of the last verse).

― David (David), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

139) the same subtle dancehall inflection informs both kelly's vocal on this track and c david's on "rewind"...coincidence?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

140) also, "rewind" had the benefit of being one of the first "out front" singles of a New! Now! genre...kelly's single is a total genre-exercise (on the surface, anyway) making his victory that much sweeter, since he's not got the subtly-avant-garde/underground angle to work

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:35 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be delighted if this format were adopted for other great singles, you know.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:37 (twenty years ago) link

141) also the drum repeat (not snares) in the murder she wrote verse. The first lines have no drums, so the next two are doubled.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

142) plus: craig david never pissed on any 14 year old girls. that i know of.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

143) it would certainly make him more interesting since he's basically got the personality of a boiled cabbage.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:42 (twenty years ago) link

144) it's pretty clear that we're living in the end times of a crumbling, decadent empire, and i can't imagine smokey robinson peeing on 14 yr old girls anymore than i can imagine him naming himself after a shoe brandname. but, if we ARE living in the end times of a crumbling, decadent empire, we could do a lot worse for a house songwriter - from a sheer technical proficiency standpoint - than r kelly.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

you people are all barking mad, you really are.... you truly ARE discussing the supposed merits of R Kelly.

Oh dear......

― russ t, Monday, 16 June 2003 14:49 (twenty years ago) link

145. better than discussing the merits of indie assholes like morrissey.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

Have you heard the track, Russ? I too had a heart full of hate for r. kelly, but this is really genuinely fanstatic.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:55 (twenty years ago) link

146. Morrissey of late (where by "of late" I mean "for the vast majority of his solo career") is as much of a worthless throwaway as this R. Kelly song is.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:56 (twenty years ago) link

147. Julio "Everyday Is Like Sunday" is the perfect indie companion to this song (there are two days in a freakin' weekend after all)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

148. dan perry in being completely wrong again shockah!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 14:59 (twenty years ago) link

149. Tico that could be true in yr universe.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:01 (twenty years ago) link

150. Solo Morrissey has produced exactly as many good songs as R. Kelly (ie, three).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:11 (twenty years ago) link

151. I have heard v little by either. the 'score' is: r kelly 1 really great song (+video), morrissey solo 0 (haven't seen any videos).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

152. Dan that "Morrissey solo has only got three good songs" is mentalism of a very high order

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

Dan Perry, it is very unfortunate that you don't like the song. I'm sorry. You're totally missing out. But do you have to try to wreck this thread with your whining and weak attempts at critique and humor? This is about LOVING the song. Start another 100 Reasons thread about why you hate it if you've got to, but leave this be.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link

153. It is my sole mission in life to wreck this thread for Matthew Perpetua.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

Dan's critiques are at least actual critiques based on listening to the song, unlike comedy bogglement that anyone could even be discussing it or one-line dismissals.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

yes on ILM there have been these kind of threads ('reasons to hate/love song/artist x) on ILM before and there are ppl who do put in the opposite view (I did that when there was some similar thing on reasons people hate the doors but that was a long time ago) and that's fine.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

154. This thread has now gone to 154 reasons.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 16 June 2003 16:00 (twenty years ago) link

155. and 154 is the name of a wire record.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 16 June 2003 16:01 (twenty years ago) link

156. 57 more balloons than Nena had.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 16 June 2003 16:02 (twenty years ago) link

157. this thread made me download a whole bunch of R Kelley songs. the best part of all of them is in "I Wish" when he's talking about this guy who'll "always be his nigga" and he goes "radio don't take the 'nigga' out this song'

― JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 16 June 2003 17:47 (twenty years ago) link

I've been defending this song for about two months now. Thanks.

btw: The "murder she wrote" line requires reference to the dancehall original. Chaka Demus and Pliers sing 'bout hot gal wit di angel face and di devil heart. Dem gal act "flirty flirty" when dem "character dutty."

I think this is the kind of chick Mr. Kelly is talkin' about.

Oh, and that lazy fall into the chorus. Heavenly.

I don't, however, really feel the dancehall here...it's WAY too slow and lazy. It's got more of that Club Med reggae vibe. If it was over something like the diwali (see Wayne Marshall's "No Letting Go"), I might be willing to agree. Even then, dancehall deejays are anything but lazy and that's the charm of this tune.

― cybele (cybele), Monday, 16 June 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

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