It's the inevitable and long-awaited DAVID LYNCH POLL

even more sadly the subseqent scene where billy ray cyrus joined them for a threesome in a paint-filled hot tub weren't even filmed:-/

it was going to be a musical sequence over the end credits, a la Inland Empire

anyway, does it really matter how much of these were unresolved threads from the pilot or not? in the end it only matters what the final edit conveys, and i think lynch mostly knew what he was doing by leaving those threads in there. even if it was in that intuitive, "happy accident" way kind of way in which he likes to work.

Funny, I just looked up the script for "Fire Walk With Me" to find out what Gerard the One-Armed-Man was shouting at Leland in the smoking RV scene, and, among other things, he shouts "THE THREAD WILL BE TORN, MR. PALMER, THE THREAD WILL BE TORN!"
The only other mention of "thread" in the script is in the "Blue Rose" code scene with the red-headed woman. Stanley notices the different-colored thread in her dress, which Chet notes is Gordon's code for drugs. Thread - Alteration - Editing - Masking - Codes - Drugs - Death: these things all linked

this thread must have started as a pilot!

I'm starting to think the "quinoa" short on the IE DVD may be Lynch's most revealing work, esp. with respect to TP: FWWM. He basically making Garmonbozia (Pain and Suffering). The cigarettes, the attention to timing and mixing and material and darkness. The way he tells his assistant to tell him when to do things (paradox).

The Quinoa thing is great - I like that whenever he makes a gesture towards trying to show something to the viewer (like how much water to put in, or what the correct consistency is) it is actually not visible in the shot.

I like the ones without an id-like bad guy, so I like Mulholland Drive and The Straight Story.

I think Mulholland Drive was a good pilot and that the second season would have sucked.

I like the ones without an id-like bad guy, so I like Mulholland Drive and The Straight Story.

is there an id-like bad guy in Inland Empire...? There are various threatening figures, but that doesn't seem like the same thing.

Haven't seen it yet.

The bad guy in The Straight Story is Alvin Straight! He says it many times!

part of the film's irony is that this genial old coot was a fucking monster as a younger man.

The bad guy in Mullholland Drive is Naomi Watts! She's a hard, cold killer and crazy to boot!

I was gonna bitch about Eraserhead not getting enough love but then I rememberd mark s is repping for it so let the hollywood meta retreads with midgets get all yr love, whatevs.

the baby in Eraserhead=scariest thing ever

the phantom is the bad guy in inland empire, duhr

i just remembered the cowboy in mulholland drive and love that guy

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

the phantom? who the hell is that?

surprised Inland Empire ranked so low here, given the posts

http://www.uneeda-audio.com/phantom/phantom5.jpg

Billy Zane was not the vilian, he's a cool dude.

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2001_Zoolander/Thumb/2001_Zoolander_207.jpg

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=phantom+inland+empire

shakey talking with authority all over this thread and doesn't even know who the phantom is! ha!

ha! ha!

oh gimme a break I saw the film once and I don't recall anyone being repeatedly referred to as "The Phantom" in it sooooo sorry. wtf

well, he's the phantom

also not aware of any "talking with authority" I may have done on this thread (outside of expressing my own personal preferences, I didn't offer much) but whatevs

blame Reagan.

yeah that's what i meant, personal preferences ;)

Understand why Mulholland Drive & Blue Velvet won, surprised by the margin. Voted for Eraserhead, tempted to go with Inland Empire.

I knew it would be either MD or BV, and I'm totally happy it was the former.

Shasta's prediction was true. Psychic!

So glad I got in a vote for Eraserhead at the last minute, the relative lack of votes for it is an outrage.

wonder who FWWM fan is, i applaud you

I hovered over FWWM briefly when I couldn't decide between MD and IE.

I haven't seen Inland Empire. I just put it on my queue.
Mulholland Drive is my touchstone.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pbkhNabG3po

not enough hallways u_u

hahah

i didn't see this but i vote eraserhead over blue velvet, just
i need to see inland empire again to rate it properly

had i voted it prob. would've gone to IE

can someone explain to me exactly what they get out of mullholland dr? i mean, i want to like it or at least get *something* out of it since lots of smart people seem to think highly of it, but i thought it was maddeningly pointless.

mullholland drive had amazing naomi watts lesbian scene performance. the part where she's auditioning is pretty great. where has naomi watts acted better?

xpost: And you liked Lynch's other work? Personally, I love MD most for its impressionistic dream logic. It isn't totally surrealistic, but it is off just enough that the tension lurking underneath is really jarring when it surfaces. There's plenty to love about the film, though, IMO, but if you plain don't like Lynch's style, then I can see why you'd want to shop elsewhere.

J.D. - also thought it was maddeningly pointless.

(and yeah, I plain don't like Lynch's style fwiw)

No, that would be Inland Empire.

(Terry Gross Voice) That was really great.

yeah that scene is sort of the thesis statement. it's a movie about movies. there's other stuff jumbled up in there too, but if you're looking for a "point," it's about how art works (and movie art in particular). "don't play it for real until it becomes real." "no hay banda." the singer lip-synching a song about crying, with a tear painted on her face, but rendering the song in a way that inspires actual tears in the audience. the necessity of artifice in breaking through to something actual.

like in this scene, just try to keep track of the layers and reversals of meaning, how much it does with so few moves in just a minute and a half.