Tarot cards? TAROT CARDS?!?!??! arrarghghghghgghhg Benjamin why do you do this to me. Can you get this version in the UK? This is deliberately to torture me and make me buy more than once copy since I had to pre-order the normal one to get into the secret gig.
This is not fair. I want those tarot cards.
mutter mutter mutter
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Monday, 12 July 2010 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW which version I am getting. I checked the order and it says a signed copy. It does not say which version. I am gonna hope that this means that it's a special limited edition but if it isn't waah wah wah I'm gonna do a sad obsessive fan cry all the way home.
I want me those tarot cards.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Monday, 12 July 2010 20:14 (2 years ago) Permalink
Tarot cards, tarot phenomenonTarot Cards domestic HAaaaaands!!!
― Mark G, Monday, 12 July 2010 20:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
Relax, you only get seven tarot cards, not a full deck. You can't make predictions with them or anything.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 July 2010 21:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't care how many of them there are, I still want them. Sheesh.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 09:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
If it were my band, I would create an entire deck.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 09:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
It's not like I haven't offered to do one for them!
Oh wait. I can't even finish mine own tarot deck beyond about seven cards so it's not like I would actually have the time to do a full one for someone else.
Is the deck, well, *them* as tarot cards? Or is it just interpretations of their favourites?
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 09:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
Something like this, I imagine:
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 10:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
Um, the "tarot cards" are just the lyrics printed on cards.
Further digging re the bonus disc leads me to conclude it's the same bonus CD that came with the deluxe edition of Alpinisms. So you may already have it if you're a long-time SVIIB fan.
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 10:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
The dream is better.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 10:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
Went home sick from work. The box was waiting. They are indeed lyric sheets with images on them. Lovely indeed. The box is beautiful, the album artwork looks a lot better as a screen print or whatever it is than as a gif.
(no bonus disc, though. But I didn't get the deluxe version of Alpinisms because I was unemployed and poor when it came out.)
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 11:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
Their pic, not mine, but looks like this:
http://twitpic.com/24pfi2
So so so glad I have the stream for now, none of the stores I stopped at this morning had this. Oddly enough, my local indie store "decided there wasn't enough good releases this week to get anything in until next week's shipment". I've said this in other threads, but if you are an independent record store and want to stay in business, STOCK RECORDS TO SELL. I mean, they didn't even have the new M.I.A. in which seems fairly stupid in a college town.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:16 (2 years ago) Permalink
satisfied customer so far.
― Enter nothing in the dialog and click 'OK' (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 July 2010 16:20 (2 years ago) Permalink
This album is even better than I was expecting on so many levels. It's so beautiful.
But the only thing that marrs it for me is I L U which has that really irritating sort of 80s soft rock rhythm section which so distracts me from the rest of the track that I can't concentrate on it. There's just something so "mid 80s John Hughes teen movie soundtrack" about that song, even despite the big woozy MBV guitar groans.
I'm sure that kind of thing has its fans, and it's time and place, but it is just jarring for me.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 09:25 (2 years ago) Permalink
I really liked what I heard of this the other evening - my problem with the first was mostly the production, it sounded really flat and lifeless all the way through, this one sounds so much richer. Think the drums are a big part of that.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 09:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
That's odd, because Benjamin was originally a drummer. I think part of why this sounds so different is that they got someone else to mix this - so the drums sound bigger and everything sounds clearer and more "in its right place" - but unfortunately it does make some songs have that 80s Teen Soundtrack problem. I'd love to hear an alternate "closet mix" of this album, mind you.
But I mean, when it's good, it's AMAZING. Which is most of it. Babelonia gets me every time, as does Joviann. This version of Camarilla makes me so so SOOOO happy.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 09:37 (2 years ago) Permalink
Not a complaint, mind you but... there are times when it's mixed a little *too* politely for my dirty dronerock ways. There are definitely times that I want to tell them TURN THOSE BLOODY GUITARS UP! Give me NOOOIIIIZZZZEWEEEEEEE
But that could just be because I've become used to the way these songs sound live.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 09:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yeah the drumming (drum programming?) is very 80s and the whole thing is very tastefully produced. The album brought to my mind All About Eve actually!
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 10:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
This is a very special bit of writing. The first two paragraphs appear to have come from a review of a different record all together.
http://drownedinsound.com/releases/15507/reviews/4140447
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:06 (2 years ago) Permalink
Wow.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
this record needs more guitars and heaviness
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:11 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's super mannered and suffers for it imo
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:12 (2 years ago) Permalink
Their current live show takes all those "super mannered" traits, shits on them from a great height, throws them onto a bonfire and strikes a fucking match. GO SEE THIS BAND LIVE PEOPLE
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:18 (2 years ago) Permalink
Is that a review or is that someone's thesis statement of an art degree from, like, Camberwell College or something?
There are bad reviews, and there are incomprehensible ones. It's like dude scribbled that on his laptop while smoking dope and was just looking for a record to pin it on without any attention to the music involved.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
What ilxor said. I enjoy their studio work, but it's the live performances that are the clincher.
As for that review. Uh.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:19 (2 years ago) Permalink
If you're going to pull back that far for your way in to a record you might as well just start with "Webster's dictionary defines music as the science or art of ordering tones or sounds in succession, in combination, and in temporal relationships to produce a composition having unity and continuity".
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
That would actually have made some kind of sense. That DiS review was far more garbled than that.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:24 (2 years ago) Permalink
dying @ that review
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:26 (2 years ago) Permalink
it is one hell of a review
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
A sort of theological reversal of postmodernity, where instead of the inherited fragment there is now something growing from the pile - a global culture, that no longer refers to its antecedents, no longer comes from anywhere, but proliferates like a remix of remixes.
Dude's going to be a hit at grad school.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's kind of like when lindsay lohan kept misusing the word "adequate", i'm just super-curious as to what he thinks all those words mean
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
His review of Wildbirds and Peacedrums features the winning line: "Reviewing this as I am from a narrowboat on a welsh canal, I can’t help but notice that watery metaphors abound." Doesn't anyone ever get edited anymore?
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:42 (2 years ago) Permalink
hahah what was she using "adequate" to mean?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
Never heard the first album and playing the new one for the first time -- it's a really peculiar listen. Reminiscent of A Sunny Day in Glasgow's Ashes Grammar instrumentally and the vocals have a world/foreign tinge even though there's no accent. Something's just OFF in the melodies and chord progressions but those weird moments make it more interesting. If they can pull this off live I'm sure it's amazing.
― skip, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
His review of Wildbirds and Peacedrums features the winning line: "Reviewing this as I am from a narrowboat on a welsh canal, I can’t help but notice that watery metaphors abound."
loooooooool
― ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink
xpost -- They do pull off the performances of that live very well, it's how the sound is so much more full live, for lack of a better word. That said it seems to depend on the venue as well, the more close (claustrophobic?) a venue, the bigger the impact.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
i did see them live--thought they desperately needed a drummer which i guess they have now?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:46 (2 years ago) Permalink
Yup
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
Ally Deheza often seems to stress sung words on odd syllables. I don't know if this is deliberate, or if it's just to force rhymes to fit the musical meter, but I find it a really interesting and charming vocal tic. It often makes you think about the meaning and intention of word choice, and about what she's choosing to stress, and if that alters the meaning.
It sometimes reminds me of Kristin Hersch - although their voices sound nothing alike, that odd quirk of vocal intonation makes the work of both take on a different dimension.
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:47 (2 years ago) Permalink
The one useful point I took from that review is that Disconnect from Desire sounds a bit like Curve, which hadn't struck me before - it has the same stadium-shoegaze quality. He should have left it at that.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:48 (2 years ago) Permalink
But the song I L U is one of the songs that really *doesn't* sound particularly like Curve!
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
Lord, I never thought they sounded like Curve -- much different vocal quality/emphasis.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:49 (2 years ago) Permalink
a few years ago she signed off a drunken open letter to hollywood, sent from her blackberry, "be adequite" (sic). to which the world responded "be literite".
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 15:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
I was thinking more of Heart Is Strange - just the early 90s indie-dance beat, the gothisms and the sheer scale of it rather than a precise similarity.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:00 (2 years ago) Permalink
Might have leapt out at me as a comparison if they were closer in time to that band but there's something different about them that (granted the similarities you note) I can't fully put my finger on. And live I tended to think more of Loop!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:01 (2 years ago) Permalink
The whole dancey beats plus goth plus shoegaze atmospherics (with female vocals) is totally Curve-like. (if it were male vocals, it would be Chapterhouse's second album.)
NOTHING like Loop. Are you mad, Raggett?
― Cow Bingo (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink
I love the fact that drum sound is so dated - you don't really hear that anymore so it takes me right back to my teens.
― Haunted Clocks For Sale (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:07 (2 years ago) Permalink
it's like lush-ious jackson IMO
― hot dub grime machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink
xxpost -- I ascribe it to Ben fully there, first time through I saw 'em. Huge pulses of feedback throb etc. etc.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 16:09 (2 years ago) Permalink