This is a thread about CASABLANCA because it is utterly awesome and the best black and white film ever.

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"This is a thread about LES DEMOISELLES D'AVIGNON because it is utterly awesome and the best oil painting ever."

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:49 (nineteen years ago) link

haha "ladcrit"--that's great.

my old college roommate once told me "yeah, i saw 'citizen kane' and i liked it. it seemed really cool, not like those other black and white movies at all." i still don't know whether to be touched or appalled.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 05:50 (nineteen years ago) link

"Maybe the problems of two people don't amount to a hill of beans. But this is *our* hill. And these are *our* beans." - Lt. Frank Drebin

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Friday, 7 January 2005 06:39 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost
shall we have a vote?

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 7 January 2005 07:42 (nineteen years ago) link

ten more b&w films that are superior (and i love casablanca)

through a glass darkly
tokyo story
ordet
battleship potemkin
vivre sa vie
shadows
cleo from 5 to 7
ikiru
city lights
earth

casablanca has a great screenplay, but it is just your typical hollywood film of the time. it is not ground-breaking, it is not amazing.

― t0dd swiss, Friday, 7 January 2005 08:13 (nineteen years ago) link

"but it is just your typical hollywood film of the time"

how many hollywood films of the time have ingrid bergman and humphrey bogart?!?!?!?!?!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 08:48 (nineteen years ago) link

slocki the devil's candy is a much better book than bonfire of the vanities. i haven't seen the movie in ages; i'm watching it tomorrow. i'm excited.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I am very keen on 'Carrotblanca' on disc 2.

― Puddin'Head Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

For green films, early 2-strip Technicolor is pretty much orange and green.

The Marseillaise scene always gets me too.

Somebody wrote a volume of short stories 10-15 years ago about the fates of Great Movie Characters after the films ended. Never read it, but reviews said his "Casablanca" sequel had Rick and Renault becoming lovers, and Ilsa dying in the plane crash with Dag Hammarskjold...

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Quai des Brumes
Les Visiteurs du Soir
Les Enfants du Paradis

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Also better than Casablanca is the now hard-to-see Argentinean film Casa Rosada, a dark tango melodrama starring Eva Peron's nemesis Libertad Lamarque, directed by the great Leopoldo Flores Nilsson.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

"Play it again, Sam"

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr. Morbius, the book is David Thomson's Suspects.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost:
"Play it,Steve!"

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

guys it's obv not the best b&w film, we don't have to keep proving it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

s1ocki otm, it's not even like the 27th best b&w film (that's Harvey)

― Allyzay Needs Legs More (allyzay), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

s1ocki, I made that shiznit up about the movie from Argentina, just to amuse myself.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

How sub-borgesian of you, Ken.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"Play it again, Sam"

why the quotes?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 7 January 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Probably because: IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY APPEAR IN THE MOVE AS WRITTEN.
The correct quote is ...

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Pretty hard to be super-Borgesian, Miguel.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

>Dr. Morbius, the book is David Thomson's Suspects

Ha! I never imagined... Is it any less arbitrary and peculiar than his criticism?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Bogart: "Pretty hard to be super-Borgesian, Miguel."
Bergman: "Whay are you calling me Miguel?"

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago) link

those black and white films, all alike

― fauxhemian (fauxhemian), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

God, now I have an image in my head of Super Borges flying around and righting literary wrongs or something.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

http://blogs.salon.com/0002153/images/2003/08/29/SnoopDoggLeashes.jpg

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoah! That's way to Borges for me, amateurist. You win.

xpost:
By day, he is a mild blind librarian...

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

those black and white films, all alike
All black and white films are alike, each color film is in color in its own way.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

"Some one spoke of the domination of the films by business men interested only in profits. "Yes, I know, I've been told about that before," Tolstoy replied. "The films have fallen into the clutches of business men and art is weeping! But where aren't there business men?" And he proceeded to relate one of those delightful little parables for which he is famous.
"A little while ago I was standing; on the banks of our pond. It was noon of a hot day, and butterflies of all colors and sizes were circling! around, bathing and darting In the I sunlight, fluttering among the flow-era through their short-their very short-lives, for -with the setting of the sun they would die.
"But there on the shore near the reeds I saw an insect with little lavender spots on its wings. It, too, was circling around. It would flutter about, obstinately, and its circles became smaller and smaller. I glanced over there. In among the reeds sat a great green toad with staring eyes on each aide of his flat head, breathing quickly with his greenish-white, glistening throat. The toad did not look at the butterfly, but the butterfly kept flying over him as though she wished to be seen. What happened? The toad looked up, opened his mouth wide and - remarkable! - the butterfly flew in of her own accord! The toad snapped his jaws shut quickly, and the butterfly disappeared.
"Then I remembered that thus the insect reaches the stomach of the toad, leaves its seed there to develop and again appear on God's earth, become a larva, a chrysalis. The chrysalis becomes a caterpillar, and out of the caterpillar springs a new butterfly. And then the playing in the sun, the bathing in the light, and the creating of new life, I begin all over again.
"Thus it is with the cinema. In the reeds of film art sits the toad - the business man. Above him hovers the insect-the artist. A glance, and the jaws of the business man devour the artist. But that doesn't, mean destruction. It is only one of the methods of procreation, of propagating the race; in the belly of the business man is carried on the process of impregnation and the development of the seeds of the future. These seeds will come out on God's earth and will begin their beautiful, brilliant lives all over again."

Not a champion lepidopterist, eh?

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago) link

For that we would have to wait for Vladimir Vladimirovich.

"Count Alexey Kirillovitch Vronsky, auteur of Showgirls"

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

What's Black and White And Read All Over? A History of Movie Journalism by Henri Beyle

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't he also write Chartreuse and Prosciutto. A History of Hollywood Food Fads.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes! Apparently he also did some uncredited script-doctoring on I Heart Napoleon Dynamite.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I vaguely recall from What's Black and White And Read All Over? A History of Movie Journalism that one of the critics was very partial to julienne of dock.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link

My favorite b&w films are Wilder's One Two Three, the Wadja war trilogy, Teh Third Man, and Le Doulos

Casablanca is still great though!

― roit gaer, Friday, 7 January 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Good for you for seeing more than one b&w film "roit" You should have brought CC72 along with you to see them. Or maybe you did do that?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

we shared a popcorn

― roit gar!, Friday, 7 January 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

But how can two people share one popcorn?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Sounds erotik!

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

he kept grabbing for my business which made things awkward

― roit gere!, Friday, 7 January 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

did this take place at a drive-in?

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

because in that case, i might like to AUgment Michael's post with four more letters, if that is not TOo much to ask.

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

yep and it is a dark memory

― roit jar!, Friday, 7 January 2005 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Guten Tag! My name is Otto Erotik. Velcome to my drive-in.

― Michael White (Hereward), Friday, 7 January 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Tonight's feature The Spy With My Face, in which Napoleon Solo is kidnapped and replaced by a doppelgänger. His only hope? - and the world's- his partner, ILLYA KURYAKIN.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Tomorrow: Written On The Winding Sheet Dir. Tod Moody, but I can't remember whether that's in black and white or glorious Technicolor.

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago) link

TS Snoop Borgy Borges vs. Bizorges Markie

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 8 January 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr M: I found DT to be a little too preoccupied with incest.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 8 January 2005 03:04 (nineteen years ago) link

The American (and, cf Calum, 'Avant-Garde') writer Robert Coover also wrote a short story/sexual fantasia abt Casablanca (I luv luv D. Thomson's non-fic crit, but have always struggled to read more than abt 10 pages of his fic)

Dario Argento and Mario Bava are not so much 'avant-garde' as incapable of telling a story in 'classical Hollywood cinema'-style - this is both their strength and weakness, obv ('Suspiria ' is frightening at least partly because it so swiftly flees from narrative 'common-sense')

― oldlib, Saturday, 8 January 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

srsly haters, if you don't tear up at the Marseillaise scene, u probly like Joe Biden.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 28 August 2008 18:46 (fifteen years ago) link

good job on the calum revive

― gabbneb, Thursday, 28 August 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

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