Really ought to give Norbit a try, given I even liked Murphy's fat schtick in the second Nutty Prof.
― rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:43 (thirteen years ago) link
I love his fat schtick but Nutty Professor looks like Lubitsch next to Norbit.
― Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link
(Lubitsch means nothing to you, of course)
Means not as funny as There Will Be Blood.
― rim this, fuck that (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Fat schtick is the worst, you guys.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Raging Bull is the worst kind of sports film, an insult to true art like Mighty Ducks 3.
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
It's been a while since I saw it, but I think that Armond White is right and that columnist wrong about the scene from Metropolitan. I mean, Eigeman's character says the lines the columnist says he says, but the point is that the toys ARE the protagonist's childhood toys abandoned by his father. Great movie, but far from the best scene in it.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 04:51 (thirteen years ago) link
The older article linked w/in that one is also amazing, w/ AW's 'top ten' quotes.
He was totally OTM re Chameleon Street, which I saw him introduce at AMMI in Astoria.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I do think it is fair to say that Roger Ebert destroyed film criticism. Because of the wide and far reach of television, he became an example of what a film critic does for too many people. And what he did simply was not criticism. It was simply blather. And it was a kind of purposefully dishonest enthusiasm for product, not real criticism at all…I think he does NOT have the training. I think he simply had the position. I think he does NOT have the training. I’VE got the training. And frankly, I don’t care how that sounds, but the fact is, I’ve got the training. I’m a pedigreed film critic. I’ve studied it. I know it. And I know many other people who’ve studied it as well, studied it seriously. Ebert just simply happened to have the job. And he’s had the job for a long time. He does not have the foundation. He simply got the job. And if you’ve ever seen any of his shows, and ever watched his shows on at least a two-week basis, then you surely saw how he would review, let’s say, eight movies a week and every week liked probably six of them. And that is just simply inherently dishonest. That’s what’s called being a shill. And it’s a tragic thing that that became the example of what a film critic does for too many people. Often he wasn’t practicing criticism at all. Often he would point out gaffes or mistakes in continuity. That’s not criticism. That’s really a pea-brained kind of fan gibberish.
Armond discusses the state of film criticism on the slashfilmcast
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
complete bullshit, as per ush.
david effing bordwell did the preface for ebert's most recent collection. willing to bet he's more 'pedigreed' than armond white.
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link
the internet has stolen the impact and prestige and effect that traditional professional film criticism used to have.
ha gimme a fuckin break. "traditional professional" yeah sorry, that never existed.
― goole, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link
someone broke Armondbot
― he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
He's like the Spencer Pratt of film crit.
― ô_o (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
lol armond is a trained and pedigreed film critic. congratufuckinglations.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:45 (thirteen years ago) link
bet he had a small stroke Richard Roeper took over from Siskel.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link
Taking his argument at face value: Does he really think that there are no "pedigreed" film critics in the US other than himself? There are plenty of other film professors in the world, and many of them write about film in some way or another, and many of them are over 30! But he can't even name one of them to pay lip service to? Terrible.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
oh man I wish they'd replaced Siskel with Armond...
― Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:52 (thirteen years ago) link
polyphonic, you are missing the point, which is that Armond White is a raging egomaniac with terrible taste
― he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:53 (thirteen years ago) link
i like the conclusion of that article, "he's not a troll, just an attention whore"
― goole, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"i've got the training" lol
― al-goreda (s1ocki), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link
he trained for years, eating popcorn, sitting on his ass, making shit up...
― Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't really agree that he has terrible taste. I just think his tastes are too narrow. His favorite films are all good films, in my experience.
Definitely a raging egomaniac, though.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't know what he lists as his favorite films but he gave a very positive review to "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and he is not 10.
― he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I guarantee you that he will never watch that movie a second time.
― no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ejohnson/critics/white.html
I take back the "terrible taste" comment; the good far outweighs the terrible on these lists.
still gonna be "lol he liked the Transformers sequel" though
― he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Armond BlackandWhite.
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link
08. Out of Sight (Steven Spielberg)
lol
― Major Lolzer (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:14 (thirteen years ago) link
i think that's the website's type, and not armond's. hope so anyway.
― goole, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
those lists don't capture the sheer joy he gets out of big-upping terrible movies just because everyone else is panning them.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
typO
xp
He also hadn't yet wrapped his vagina around Pismol Beach in 1998.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Pismo
― Eric H., Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
01. Saving Private Ryan (Steven Spielberg)
my man
― de jong and the restless (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:30 (thirteen years ago) link
09. Mr. 3000 (Charles Stone III)
god i hope i can find the review of this
― de jong and the restless (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link
It's actually really good imo.
― Eric H., Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Ebert a couple of days ago.
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link
mr. 3000 or armond's review of mr. 3000?
― de jong and the restless (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Andre 3000's review of Armond.
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:42 (thirteen years ago) link
― he does NOT have the training (HI DERE), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 20:01 (56 minutes ago)
The problem with the positive review for transformers 2 is the negative review for transformers 1, which is better in all ways. I fucking love giant robots fighting, and transformers 1 is just definitively a better giant robot movie.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link
he genuinely loves Norbit and considers it one of the high points of African American culture.
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
It is. That and Arthur Lee.
― Sensational Howard (admrl), Tuesday, 20 July 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
And Armond White
― orakle-krake (Gukbe), Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:04 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
Def. a low point for chinese-american culture.
Rasputia: What... the...? What just fell on my car? Mr. Wong: Not what - who! Who just fell on your car? Ching chong ching chong!
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also: the Japanese title for Norbit is "Mad Fat Wife"
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 20 July 2010 22:23 (thirteen years ago) link
You guys' obsession w/ Armond-bashing is as tiresome as your finding Christopher Nolan's blitzkriegs the most fascinating films of our time.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
if only i could think of something else tiresome
― be told and get high on coconut (gbx), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Threads aren't revived because of obsessions -- it's fun!
― Would love to hear Bam babble about this (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 02:54 (thirteen years ago) link
you surely saw how he would review, let’s say, eight movies a week and every week liked probably six of them.
Yeah, I don't think so. Ebert will call shit for being shit, always has.
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Whoever you read, hold them to a standard, and don’t simply enjoy a critic because they say what you want to hear. But read as many people as you care to, but ask yourself: Are they REALLY talking about what’s on the screen? Do they know the history of this form? Do they have any political awareness? Do they have any spiritual, or moral, or religious awareness even?
This from a man who loves THE CAT IN THE HAT. Has anyone else here seen THE CAT IN THE HAT?
― Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Ebert is an intelligent, readable hack who had admitted he dumbed himself down on TV.
― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
please, more critics with religious awareness
― u dad (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 July 2010 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link