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Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link

England played really well for one competitive game under Steve McClaren as well.

not away from home against the top seed tho

Then there's Bosnia-Herzegovina's 7-0 walloping of Estonia

not a big surprise at all

blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost

I don't know, but I doubt whether those teams would play QUITE as negatively as Andorra, who had no desire to even attempt to score a lucky goal on the break or from a set piece. I've never seen anything like it. And they were then proud of their performance? They should be thrown out of football. It was despicable.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Saturday, 06 September 2008
FIFA World Cup European Qualifying

Liechtenstein 0-6 Germany
Malta 0-4 Portugal

jesus...andorra are worse than either of those too and in any case, a win is a win against a team that sets out for a 0-0.

if you really want to believe England are shit, even after last night's performance, then go ahead! I'm not even English, you'd swear half of you look forward to the post-knockout anti-prem rants...

Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Croatia did score 13 goals in 2 games against Andorra in the last campaign so no excuse for England really - but will be interesting to see if they can do the same this time (probably)

Garda is correct re Cole

blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know, but I doubt whether those teams would play QUITE as negatively as Andorra, who had no desire to even attempt to score a lucky goal on the break or from a set piece. I've never seen anything like it.

You've never seen anything like it? Are you serious? All of those teams play the same.

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Not even leaving one man up? playing with five in the six-yard box and the other five in the penalty area?

It took pointless, hopeless negativity to new levels.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

They didn't set out for a 0-0, they set out to minimise how many they lost by. BAN ANDORRA.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Well they only lost 2-0, so it wasn't pointless or hopeless. San Marino losing 13-0 to Germany, that's hopeless!

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Poland only 2-0 in San Marino. Romania only 1-0 vs Faroe Islands. someone else will go to these places and score 7 or 8 tho. there's still easy games, just not as much of the time.

blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1420000/images/_1424849_green_300.jpg

THEY SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF FOOTBALL. IT'S DESPICABLE.

^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, fair enough, but it offends my notions of sportsmanship (and now I sound like Louis).

Did anyone else actually watch the game?

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I watched it, I didn't find Andorra that objectionable, I've seen worse

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:45 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the result of the night has to be plucky team of defensive thugs andorra actually scoring a goal. just think of the joy on his face!

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Rangers v Fiorentina. UEFA Cup semi-final. April 24th, 2008.

... I did something I've never ever done before while watching a football game, I fell asleep

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link

how convenient

blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean obviously yay luxembourg woo walcott coo er jermaine jenas and all that but mario pujol will probably, and deservedly, be given a Pyrenee now

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Was it a penalty?

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Google tells me that of course it was!

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

People need to stop hating on anti-football. Catenaccio is a lot more interesting than 99.999% of other football styles. The football historian and critic Gianni Brera said the perfect game of football would end 0-0.

If you really need a 00's album I'd say go for 'in rainbows'., Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Tom - But Rangers at least had a vague plan to take it to penalties.

Anyway, I'm not sure about Joe Cole - he was pretty ineffectual last night before going off. I think we might end up with Walcott on the left and Gerrard on the right if everyone's fit. (Walcott is genuinely two-footed and played on the left wing for our youth team.)

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Fabio Capello's faith in Theo Walcott transformed England's weather-beaten canvas into a lustrous work of art

English footballer was a low rent porno until Capello wiped the encrusted jizz from its plastic box and projected it across the London skyline in a daring Hirst like coup de grace.

seriously fucking ban richard williams

Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Being boring because you're too shite to do anything else is less bad than..... oh hold on, that covers Rangers too

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:56 (fifteen years ago) link

English football was a two bit trance tune fronted by a robotic hollow diva, until Capello's picked up the Walcott trumpet and blasted colourful Charlie Parker style tones through the grey corporate world of football. BEPOP BEEDDADADADDA SKIBABABABABABABABABA

Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

People need to stop hating on anti-football. Catenaccio is a lot more interesting than 99.999% of other football styles. The football historian and critic Gianni Brera said the perfect game of football would end 0-0.

3 points for a win. 1 for a draw. 1 for scoring, even if you lose. That would sort it out - maybe.

(So a win = 4 points, a score draw = 2 points, a scoring loss = 1 point, a 0-0 draw = 1 point, and a loss without scoring = 0 points)

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

joe cole >>>> gerrard as far as england is concerned, he plays well and contributes regular goalscoring

and yeah if richard williams wrote that he's even more of a self-absorbed prick than i suspected

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

if in doot, cheetyerwee oot

Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Joe Cole was ineffectual partly because they had apparently been instructed to put it out wide right to Walcott at every opportunity.

FiveLive was speculating that could have been the last ever Beckham cap last night, for old time's sake.

^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Charlie Parker on trumpet?!?!??!

^ an ILM pedant writes

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Typical England, always playing jazz musicians out of position.

^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

English football was a "visuals artist" in a Shoreditch bedsit, back from a three day binge at a rave where he looped 1950s footage of old people, until Capello cut off the ear that is Michael Carrick and daubed magnificent sunflowers across Slaven Bilic's vulgar earringed face...

Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

lol matt (and ronan)

jamie, bring that about and ppl wd settle for scoring draws if it was 1-1 or whatever

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

my favourite antifootball moment of the year was when Greece passed the ball between their back four against Sweden for about five minutes, and Jim Beglin's heart nearly exploded at the affront to the Way The Game Should Be Played, despite his initial attempts to adopt a faux-gracious "you have to give them credit, it works" stance

Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:00 (fifteen years ago) link

English football is now a "supergroup" featuring Billy Corgan, John Lennon, Miles Davis, and Liam Gallagher on one fingered piano.

Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

actually wait, no, because 4 points for a win

look it just sounds stupid THE CLOSED-MINDED TABLOID PUBLIC WILL NEVER KOW-TOW TO YOUR SCHEMES

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Also if a team only needed a point to win the leg they'd throw 11 men forward in the first 10 minutes until they got a goal then fuck off doing the victory lap for the rest of the game, paying no heed to their now irrelvant goal difference being annihilated

that'd be fucking amazing though

Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i like Bilic even more now that he's been punched by morris dancers and had a fry-up dropped down his beige trousers.

blueski, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

quick somebody make a joke about winning the leg

Glans Christian Andersen (MPx4A), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link

English football is now a "supergroup" featuring Billy Corgan, John Lennon, Miles Davis, and Liam Gallagher on one fingered piano.

And still Bobby "Boaby" Gillespie awaits George Burley's phone call

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:03 (fifteen years ago) link

ps antifootball is now an ILX meme, to be used upon killjoys and point-missers alike

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

England's football victory transformed Richard Williams weather beaten canvas into a Laura Barton work of art.

Local Garda, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

England's football victory transformed Richard Williams weather beaten face into a Joey Barton work of art.

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:08 (fifteen years ago) link

ps antifootball is now an ILX meme, to be used upon killjoys and point-missers alike YEE-HAWS

fickshed

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Antifootball is a failed meme in the making if ever I saw one.

^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link

What about "failed meme" as a meme?

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Jimbo just wanted to be the Peter Gabriel of Toryglen up till then

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

antifootball from ilx's own andorran defender xxpost

J4gger Dynamic Pentangle (Just got offed), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

How did that happen? (xp)

Wrinkled Aeneas (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think that Richard Williams is a bad writer. The other day I reread his review of Dylan's OH MERCY LP from 1989 and it was as insightful and well-turned as the other 200 times I have read it.

It is strange how people want to pick out and pick on certain figures like him. Or perhaps it is not strange, given the people. I don't agree with all or half of what he says about football, but it does not make sense to me to be so vehement against this decent, eloquent fellow in a media world so full of utter scumbags.

the pinefox, Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard he writes all his articles from his cellar dungeon, dictating them to his young typist Maddie.

^^^ Highlight DIVs (Matt DC), Thursday, 11 September 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link


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