nah, I'm right.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
emil.y I'm interested in why you'd pick that Cosmic Jokers album over their first two, which I like a lot. I consider Planeten Sit-In and the subsequent ones to be diminishing returns with the same material remixed over-and-over.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm going to fence-sit, and say that I like Viva and La Dusseldorf equally- both great records. Looking forward to hearing the Cosmic Jokers and Brainticket.
― Neil S, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm afraid the answer to this is rather prosaic - I only own Planeten Sit-In, Gilles Zeitschiff and the label sampler for the US on vinyl, and I have computer problems so can only listen along sporadically if I'm relying on mp3. Out of the three, I thought that Planeten Sit-In was probably more representative of the whole thing, so chose that. I do know and like the others, but I would rate them all about equal in terms of quality.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Fair enough. Oh, and for anyone interested, by "first two" I meant "Cosmic Jokers" and "Galactic Supermarket". I think their albums were all released at the same time and I'm not sure where I got the order I have them listed in.
― fit and working again, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I forget which I liked best as it's been so long. I remember reading an anti krautrock thing on perfect sound forever that hated cosmic jokers especially
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.furious.com/perfect/krautrock.html
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
Florian Fricke of Popol Vuh comes off even worse in the article
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:46 (thirteen years ago) link
It didn't seem that way to me--more that the author of whatever article misrepresented or oversold Fricke.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:05 (thirteen years ago) link
he kept slagging him off!
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Was there more to the article than just that one page?
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:03 (thirteen years ago) link
The most funny thing was that a man who is known for literally HATING electronics from about 1974 until recently, Florian Fricke (of "Popol Vuh"), was called THE EXPERT of electronic instrumentation in that magazine. Disgusting. The same author was named as "authority" and "adviser" when a German film company asked us to take part in a TV film about "Krautrock". We said no. As long as this man was a "authority" for them, we didn't want to participate in a film like that. Ask the people who were present, and who have no interest to make promotion, who are not just (foreign) fans, and who tell the simple truth. Today, all musicians tell the press that they used "electronics" since ages just because "electronic" has finally won. And who want to be the loser?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I have a German friend like the guy who wrote that article - "Ach! These bands, they are a joke in Germany! You crazy English kinder!" (and then proceeds to exoticise the Canterbury scene). Thing is, we actually got him to admit he was an idiot and that Faust were great, once he got over the fact that other Germans didn't like them.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
anyway, Individuellos is the best album *runs away*
― zappi, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link
YOU OF ALL PEOPLE are not allowed to speak such heresy.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
(The first time I ever heard of La Dusseldorf was when you showed me, with much glee, the title/tracklisting/credits list of the first side of La Dusseldorf. It's all your fault.)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
haha! seriously tho Menschen 1 to Sentimental on Individuellos is as good as anything on the 1st & 2nd albums. side 2 isn't too hot tho. I AM OLD, I TALK ABOUT SIDES.
― zappi, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I read with much surprise that Stylus review suggesting that side 2 of La Dusseldorf is its crowning glory. I mean, wtf?
Will have to give Individuellos more of a listen. I remember liking it quite a bit when I first picked it up, but if I'm feeling Dusseldorfy I'll go for the first, and my mates only ever play Viva, so it gets neglected.
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Viva forever
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:08 (thirteen years ago) link
but this can only be settled by emil.y doing a poll
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:09 (thirteen years ago) link
guess i better listen to that Brainticket album then, i've nearly bought it twice (once from Loz of VTB!) but somehow i've managed to avoid listening to the damn thing. until now, dun dun DUN!
― zappi, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:12 (thirteen years ago) link
I am a bit shy of starting polls. Maybe after this has run its course we can poll all the albums and decide a winner (I'm guessing this thread has a limited lifespan - there aren't THAT many krautrock albums. It's not even that late on and we're already cheating a bit).
Also, man, how have you failed to hear Brainticket? It is AWESOME.
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
but someone will pick all 367675066 stereolab albums before it ends
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
But, I must warn you, a) after listening to this record your friends won't know you any more, and b) don't listen more than once a day - your mind could be destroyed!
(Genuine words of warning from the record sleeve, there.)
xpost to zappi
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
im just worried someone might post albums by scorpions or frumpy or hairy chapter
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Inga Rumpf was in a band with Dagmar Krause at one point, so can't be all that bad. I'm sure there's at least one Frumpy track that's good (though I remember them being more bluesy-soul, is that right?)
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
i cant really remember, i didn't get through the whole thing and we're talking back in the days of napster here where it took a long time to get an album yet i still couldnt play it through.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:40 (thirteen years ago) link
this was the one i heardhttp://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:hzfexqu5ld0e
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:41 (thirteen years ago) link
cant see the hairy chapter album i heard. tom d probably owned them all.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
hi krautrockers, i would do a week if anyone is still inerrested. thinkin' progressive german folk-rock/psych stuff, which ya'll don't seem to discuss too much.. Kalacakra record is great, so are some Witthuser & Westrupp moments. Def worth listening to imo.
been enjoying reading along with this thread too.
― ian, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah, that review sounds pretty close to what I remember - not normally my sort of thing, but the guy who played it to me is one of those crate diggers who will find the gems if they are there to be found. Whereas I usually just go 'meh' and tune out.
xpost re: Frumpy
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:44 (thirteen years ago) link
thinkin' progressive german folk-rock/psych stuff, which ya'll don't seem to discuss too much..
Not a bad idea if we're going to extend this thing out a bit. I thought about Emtidi for my week, but wasn't sure if it was close enough to the remit.
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:46 (thirteen years ago) link
W&W always seem to be counted as 'canon krautrock', though, which I am dubious about, but will save those comments.
Witthuser & Westrupp
yeah that stuff is good. some great youtube footage abound
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:47 (thirteen years ago) link
7/07 - Matt #214/07 - Alan N21/07 - pfunkboy
Ian you can take my week and I'll do the week after. Emil.y or anyone want another shot?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link
I won't book in yet but I might do another one at some point.
― emil.y, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Was possibly this one http://www.headheritage.co.uk/unsung/albumofthemonth/150 I probably read this.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link
tbh I totally would post Hairy Chapter's "Can't Get Through" if I had a week.Reality has gotta DIE
― Trip Maker, Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link
then take a week. Maybe I'll like hairy chapter and frumpy now even if i hated it some years ago. Wont be the first.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 01:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I was considering picking the first Scorpions album "Lonesome Crow", it's the nearest they ever got to Krautrock but in reality it's more post-Hendrix psychy hard rock.
― A prog venn diagram for you to think about (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 July 2010 09:02 (thirteen years ago) link
Inga Rumpf was in a band with Dagmar Krause at one point
And here's the proof...
http://www.citypreachers.de/images/1970.jpg
That Klaus D. Mueller guy is famous Krautrock troll. Germans I met, before Krautrock got hip, were generally dismissive of what they considered to be a load of old hairy hippy music.
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 09:15 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87aCyjxavQ
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
any chance i could snag a week too? there will be no stereolab or scorpions, honest
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 1 July 2010 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
sure i'll bump you up ahead of myself again
7/07 - Matt #214/07 - Alan N21/07 - Ian28/07 psychgawsple04/08 pfunkboy
Anyone else want to book in? (just dont forget when it's your turn.)
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
sweet! tho i must say i totally would have chosen that conrad schniz album if it wasn't already a 'bonus' (that deuter is also a p good record)
― a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Do we get a 2nd bite of the cherry too?
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:10 (thirteen years ago) link
of course. book away
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
11th August suit you?
Any time, let others who haven't had a go yet go first
― I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:17 (thirteen years ago) link
i dont think anyones left who hasnt had a shot that wants one7/07 - Matt #214/07 - Alan N21/07 - Ian28/07 - psychgawsple04/08 - pfunkboy11/08 - Tom D
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 1 July 2010 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link