New Order miserably fails the "good record in last 15 years" assessment.
But that's a bogus assessment to begin with. Sly Stone hasn't made a great record since 1973 and he'd get my vote for practically anything.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:33 (5 years ago) Permalink
Sly Stone hasn't made a great record since 1973
Also a bogus assessment
― Tom D., Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:34 (5 years ago) Permalink
Anyway, I don't know that Depeche Mode have never made a great record so New Order still win
― Tom D., Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
With the exception of last year's return to form album from PSB
Ok now I'm convinced that Geir Hongro is a computer program designed to annoy the shit out of 99% of the globe.
Fwiw, that was their WORST album, even worse than Behaviour which latter I'm praying is not Sot's fave PSB.
This is not counting those hideous remix albums which some psycho above was actually pumping.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
Ok, 1982 then. What's the dif?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
Sot's = Soto's
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:42 (5 years ago) Permalink
there is so much wrong here.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:47 (5 years ago) Permalink
Correction: Anyway, I don't know that Depeche Mode have ever made a great record so New Order still win!
― Tom D., Thursday, 1 November 2007 15:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
Fwiw, that was their WORST album, even worse than Behaviour which latter I'm praying is not Sot's fave PSB. I like Fundamental a lot and love Behaviour dearly.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
Fwiw, that was their WORST album, even worse than Behaviour
you've gotta be fuckin kidding me. Fundamental is excellent, and Behavior is their best album.
― stephen, Thursday, 1 November 2007 16:29 (5 years ago) Permalink
i don't think PSBs or NO have done anything good since 1993.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink
WTF all three are great, calm down ppl
― HI DERE, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
There is a lot to love on Get Ready, and some to love on Siren's Call.
For every PSB "Metamorphosis" misstep there was a "To Step Aside" throughout the 90's. Release even had "Home and Dry", which is still fantastic. One can't forget classic b-sides like Truck Driver and His Mate either.
Fundamental is a damn fine album, and the b-sides, remixes, and "flamboyant"/"Didn't get where I am Today" from PopArt era are tops.
― Gukbe, Thursday, 1 November 2007 18:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
PSB obviously. Ok, DM is great stadium rock when you are up for it, New Order is probably the most influential when it comes to the pop/dance music of today, and they sure have the best beat. DM forgot the beat in 90? 91? didn't they? But PSB is the perfect pop group, had they had a blond pretty singer they would be as perfect as Saint Eteinne. And yes, Behaviour is their best album.
― ConnieXX, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:22 (5 years ago) Permalink
DM forgot the beat in 90? 91? didn't they?
No.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 1 November 2007 19:26 (5 years ago) Permalink
"Fundamental"=excellent "Nightlife"=way underrated
Neither PSB nor NO has ever come up with anything remotely as great as "Playing The Angel" or "Ultra" though.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 1 November 2007 21:03 (5 years ago) Permalink
"The question is not whether you find them okay, ya dipstick. It's trying to pretend a fanbase doesn't exist and hasn't existed in the UK, for both albums and singles for that matter. If you just want to think that a goth or two down the road consists of the sole fans you know of, that's your call."
You're probably right. They do sell here. But their fans are all in that grey area that nobody's really interested in that isn't Top 40 Pop people or "people who are into music"/hipsters. The mythical 12 CD a year people maybe? (Though the only fan I know is also an (ex)Goth).
Of course this is no good reason not to like them! The fact that they're turgid, po-faced and plodding is though.
― bidfurd, Thursday, 1 November 2007 21:28 (5 years ago) Permalink
Okay make that 90% of the globe.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
You're probably right. They do sell here. But their fans are all in that grey area that nobody's really interested in that isn't Top 40 Pop people or "people who are into music"/hipsters.
you think Depeche Mode are totally rocking the charts here all the time?
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
you think Depeche Mode are totally rocking the charts here all the time
If you mean the US, No. As someone else said above they seem to be the sort of band that are most popular in mainland Europe, Latin america, non-english speaking countries. (The Cure are a bit like this also).
― bidfurd, Thursday, 1 November 2007 22:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
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lols. seriously, except for a few impressionable types my age who got into them in the last few years, it's like 'who the fuck?' they were a laughing stock in the music press. it's partly cos gahan is such a junkie d-bag.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:46 (5 years ago) Permalink
PSB > New Order > Depeche Mode
PSB draw the strongest emotional connection overall, although Substance may be the equal of Discography. I have never found any New Order album consistently great (I've heard the first five), whereas I'd venture that PSB have at least three such albums (Please, Actually, Very).
DM have never moved me that much, apart from a few singles — their personality has always eluded me somehow.
― eatandoph, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:56 (5 years ago) Permalink
x-post
that's what i mean - no cred compared to the other two. having said that you're more likely to hear DM in a dance club these days than NO or PSB. the drugginess goes over well with...people on drugs.
― jabba hands, Thursday, 1 November 2007 23:57 (5 years ago) Permalink
ton of great DM remixes in last few years has helped them too
― jabba hands, Friday, 2 November 2007 00:00 (5 years ago) Permalink
i just cant believe the DM hate on here. do you people have ears? i mean really, i love NO, but they cant fuck with DM's run of albums from "speak and spell" through "violator". in fact, im not sure *any* band had such a strong run of albums ever! its just awesome track after awesome track. to be honest, i cant really say that PSB even belong in this comparison, yet people seem on teh dick!
― pipecock, Friday, 2 November 2007 01:13 (5 years ago) Permalink
ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT: Chester Bennington, vocalist of Linkin Park, was inspired by the band. [32] [33] Another Linkin Park member Mike Shinoda, "Depeche Mode is one of the most influential groups of our time. Their music is an inspiration to me..." [34]
And this is supposed to make me like Depeche Mode?
― Edward Bax, Friday, 2 November 2007 03:43 (5 years ago) Permalink
There are some people here who seem to think that the only use of music is dancing.
Well, you can dance to a lot of Depeche Mode stuff too, but that's just not the point of their music. That's not why it was made in the first place. And I tend to believe that there's a lot more to New Order and Pet Shop Boys than just stupid dance music too. There's so much more to music than brainless dancing!
― Geir Hongro, Friday, 2 November 2007 09:08 (5 years ago) Permalink
posted while doing the same dance the Scissor Sisters do in the video for "I don't feel like dancing" no doubt.
― Mark G, Friday, 2 November 2007 10:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― ILX System, Sunday, 4 November 2007 00:01 (5 years ago) Permalink
who's gonna win???????
― stephen, Sunday, 4 November 2007 00:03 (5 years ago) Permalink
Surely not Depeche. Which sucks because they should have.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 November 2007 02:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
PSB by a million miles! This is an easy poll.
― admrl, Sunday, 4 November 2007 06:14 (5 years ago) Permalink
New Order will win. Surely that's obvious! Pet Shop Boys: too arch, too calculated, despite at least 10 perfect songs. Depeche: almost all their best moments are ripped off from other bands, such as - New Order: mystical, transcendent, dumb, magical, inexplicably brilliant. And yes, they've made some shite too.
― Emily S., Sunday, 4 November 2007 15:28 (5 years ago) Permalink
put it this way: i'll be very surprised if NO don't win it, comfortably.
then PSBs, then depeche -- lagging a bit, i fear.
― grimly fiendish, Sunday, 4 November 2007 15:30 (5 years ago) Permalink
Pet Shop Boys: too arch, too calculated
how are these bad things?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:49 (5 years ago) Permalink
HITLER was arch and calculated!
― da croupier, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:50 (5 years ago) Permalink
uh...so was Martin Luther King Jr.
what's yr point?
― stephen, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:53 (5 years ago) Permalink
Anthony, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you've used up your quota of Hitler references for at least a year in the past week alone, no?
― JN$OT, Sunday, 4 November 2007 19:54 (5 years ago) Permalink
Depeche: almost all their best moments are ripped off from other bands, such as - New Order: mystical, transcendent, dumb, magical, inexplicably brilliant.
Okay, I'm having trouble parsing this sentence, but... are you saying Depeche Mode, who were a synth pop band years before New Order were (and who make better synth pop than New Order), ripped off New Order?
(NB I am a huge New Order fan.)
― Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:48 (5 years ago) Permalink
AKA, pretty much the most impossible ILM poll, ever.
Not really. New Order handily trounces both with one hand.
― Alex in NYC, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:51 (5 years ago) Permalink
word
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:52 (5 years ago) Permalink
are you saying Depeche Mode, who were a synth pop band years before New Order were (and who make better synth pop than New Order), ripped off New Order?
THANK YOU
― stephen, Sunday, 4 November 2007 21:16 (5 years ago) Permalink
New Order is a "synth pop band"?
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 4 November 2007 21:27 (5 years ago) Permalink
They were a synth pop band before they turned into a goth band.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
i think flood/francois k-era dep-mode ripped off mid-late-80s new order.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
I'd rather say Joy Division were a goth band before they turned into a synth band (not synth pop though, wouldn't call them pop with the exception of "True Faith" and maybe a few more singles)
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:35 (5 years ago) Permalink
Flood era Depeche Mode was "Songs Of Faith And Devotion", and that album isn't a Depeche Mode album. Most true and devoted Depeche fans hate that particular album.
― Geir Hongro, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:36 (5 years ago) Permalink
indie dance
― electricsound, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:38 (5 years ago) Permalink
that's you that is.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:39 (5 years ago) Permalink
xxpost
i quite like it!
― grimly fiendish, Sunday, 4 November 2007 22:39 (5 years ago) Permalink