*coughs* *looks for big hole to be swallowed up by*
look, i was just pleased to see "innovator" in there, ok?
― michael w., Friday, 13 September 2002 13:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
What's the point of this?
Isn't it obvious? The point of this is for us pathetic music geeks to skim over it and go "ooooh, I own that, great album!" and "damn, I gotta buy that!" and "WHAT?? THIS piece of crap?? What were they thinking???" and "how dare they forget about (insert album here), it's OBVIOUSLY the greatest thing ever released!".
On a diferent note, nuestros hermanos included plenty of albums from France, Jamaica, Brazil and Germany, but not a single album by Zeca Afonso, Amalia Rodrigues or GNR (not Guns N Roses.) I expect nothing else from US/UK lists, but you'd think Spain would take pity on its neighbour...
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 13 September 2002 13:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
The 90s according to this list. Thought it might be useful for the Pinefox - tracking an emergent canon so to speak.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
daniel: there are no portuguese albums, but please note that there are no spanish albums, either. strange: i thought that at least some camaron de la isla or other flamenco myths would be included (if only for chauvinistic or political reasons).
― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 13 September 2002 13:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 13 September 2002 14:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 13 September 2002 14:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ArfArf, Friday, 13 September 2002 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 September 2002 15:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ArfArf, Friday, 13 September 2002 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 13 September 2002 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
They said 20th century, but they didn't mean it.
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 13 September 2002 16:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
That's true. Maybe their angle is more along the lines of, "Include enough of the jazz canon in order to lend an aura of credibility to our pop/rock picks."
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 13 September 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Clay, Friday, 13 September 2002 17:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Friday, 13 September 2002 17:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
This is my new favourite list of all time.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 13 September 2002 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 13 September 2002 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 13 September 2002 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 September 2002 19:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 13 September 2002 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 13 September 2002 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ahem. Anyway, my list would rock, regardless of the Radiohead inclusions.
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 13 September 2002 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ddd, Friday, 13 September 2002 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― brg30 (brg30), Friday, 13 September 2002 22:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
brg b-but you'd kill that person...cool!
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 14 September 2002 09:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
Could we have a ruling on this use of "rocksim" by one of the in-house experts on its meaning? (I have a feeling the answer is no, we cannot.)
― DeRayMi, Saturday, 14 September 2002 10:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
I don't like it when influential music mags say something is "The Best" as its a fact. It's their opinion...It is the very essence of rockism.
Nah, it's just honesty. No matter how much ILM might go on about subjectivity and all that, the truth of the matter is that we all secretly think that what we consider to be the best stuff actually IS the best stuff, and that anyone who disagrees must be TOTALLY INSANE!
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 14 September 2002 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
(dr vick told me this compulsive repetition thing producing the opposite to the effect intended is called "cryptamnesia", but we were zipping along on her motorbike at the time so i may have misunderstood)
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 14 September 2002 12:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 14 September 2002 12:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 14 September 2002 13:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 14 September 2002 14:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― angelo (angelo), Sunday, 15 September 2002 06:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm going to be in a minority here but sometimes, amidst the desperate clamour for the new, it's nice to be told "here's some older music, it's good stuff". It might be difficult to believe but not everyone picked up on Loveless at the time.
The problem is that canons are self-perpetuating, Trans-Europe Express and There's A Riot Goin' On are passed like a watch from one generation to the next, and it's difficult to explore forgotten avenues simply because there isn't enough time to keep up with what's going on right now. Are there any examples of albums that slipped through the cracks for, say, twenty years or more, that have subsequently been sanctified?
― Mike (mratford), Sunday, 15 September 2002 09:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
"Are there any examples of albums that slipped through the cracks for, say, twenty years or more, that have subsequently been sanctified?"
The Monkees!!!
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 15 September 2002 14:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://sdam.com/pseudocool/images/cryptom.gif
― david h (david h), Sunday, 15 September 2002 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 15 September 2002 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― david h (david h), Sunday, 15 September 2002 15:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― THE MIGHTY RETURNING CRUSADER FATNICK I, Sunday, 15 September 2002 20:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
Wankers.
― Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 15 September 2002 22:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 16 September 2002 19:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
http://www.sundayherald.com/bestalbums1.shtml
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 16 September 2002 21:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― angelo (angelo), Monday, 16 September 2002 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jeff W, Tuesday, 17 September 2002 13:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 14:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
Having said that any list which features Dusty S, the Dictators and the Kronos Quartet is worth investigating. Though it works best as an alternate route map through the 60's and 70's.
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 17 September 2002 15:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
best wishes. Good list. I would say Eric Clapton and Carlos Santana.
― Enrique Avila, Sunday, 6 October 2002 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 6 October 2002 15:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― In My Tree, Monday, 7 October 2002 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 7 October 2002 21:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
This i my list like it or not but its mine :)!
― Pablo Porcar, Friday, 11 October 2002 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 October 2002 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 11 October 2002 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
Queen - A Kind Of MagicQueen - InnuendoGeorge Harrison - All things must passIron Maiden - The number of the BeastIron Maiden - Seventh Son Of A Seventh SonJudas Priest - British SteelMotorhead - Ace Of Spades
― Javier de la Coruña, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 12:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― josemartin278@terra.es, Friday, 25 October 2002 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― FreaKZ, Saturday, 7 December 2002 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― ian johnson, Saturday, 7 December 2002 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Pearl Jam's fan, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spinning Magnet, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
las B.S.O no cuentan ?, where are the O.M.P.?
― midnight cowboy, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Málaga Virgen, Sunday, 2 November 2003 03:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Francisco José Pires, Friday, 28 November 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 November 2003 22:24 (twenty years ago) link
MMT might come close though.
― Michael Dubsky, Saturday, 29 November 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Rusty Blade, Friday, 16 January 2004 17:49 (twenty years ago) link
I also like a few things like The Beach Boys on top of The Beatles and VU on top of them all. I think compilations and greatest hits should have been omited though.
― daavid (daavid), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:34 (twenty years ago) link
― ron kavanagh, Friday, 12 May 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― dr lulu (dr lulu), Friday, 12 May 2006 12:21 (seventeen years ago) link