Has anyone here interviewed Beth Ditto in the past 6 months?

uh those pics are a little more in-depth than a 'coke nose' or a five-year-old-like scrawl of 'fug' no? but whatever, art is in the eye of etc

I don't know why he started doing that. Maybe afraid someone would steal his stolen pics?

uh those pics are a little more in-depth than a 'coke nose' or a five-year-old-like scrawl of 'fug' no? but whatever, art is in the eye of etc

-- maura, Friday, July 27, 2007 11:37 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

not what i was saying, rather that the jackin' poll pics are "interpretive ms paints." let's also not pretend like ms paint is plagiarism here (there are many worse things about perez hilton than his crude paints).

and anyway, the issue for me is not that it's perez (not wholly, at least). i'd take just as much offense to the dude from stereogum being on the cover of urb while biting the collar of win butler.

nath, that's exactly why.

Holy shit you guys recognizing Perez from that photo.

WGW otm

WGW otm

Why? I am not ashamed to read those things although I prefer Pink is the New Blog.

i thought gay men hated women?

How many gay men have you met?

Yeah those gay men must repent their misogynist ways!

you guys, it was beth that said it, not me.

lolz how many gay men have i met? i dunno but i do live around the corner from dr. morbius's fave gay bar.

i'm getting sick of beth ditto. at this point i find it more an annoying schtick than a meaningful message.

and i really don't need to say anybody naked that much.

i thought gay men hated women?

no no no, they hate LESBIANS

"If there's anyone to blame for size zero, it's not women. Blame gay men who work in the fashion industry and want these women as dolls.

"Men don't know what it feels like to be a woman and be expected to look a particular way. The Beckhams are part of the machine, Paris Hilton is part of the machine.

"There's that thing Paris Hilton said about Lindsay Lohan, 'You're poor, ugly and fat.' It's always women who are victims."

"I spent one night talking to Kate Moss and she said the most amazing things about bodies. I didn't think I was going to like her, but she said, 'Do you know what I hate, Beth? When people tell my big girlfriends, 'You have a beautiful face…' That's a really radical concept."

I've never met Beth but the other two Gossip-ers were nice enough

xpost.

Radical!
Ten bucks says she loses 50 pounds within 2 years from now.

"There's that thing Paris Hilton said about Lindsay Lohan, 'You're poor, ugly and fat.' It's always women who are victims."

lolz she reads gossip/fashion mags

yeah, that stuff? pisses me off. everyone's part of the fucking machine, huh? fags, socialites, the Beckhams. what if Posh said to the Press one day "dammit i just love my big girlfriends, they're beautiful," would she be BFF with her then?

ugh, what does she even think the machine is? image? so underthought.

everything otm

she learned it by watching kathleen hannah

also it's like why are you alienating ur gay fan base, which i'm sure is considerable.

brains go well with the Me Against The Machine play.

i'm not sure why this is getting me riled up.

relax, take a deep breath, take comfort in some adorable Lindsay Lohan paparrazzi photos

i can't tell if she uses 'radical' to mean 'totally awesome and gnarly' or 'scarily extremist and revolting'. she's wrong either way.

=P

she learned it by watching kathleen hannah

-- hstencil, Friday, July 27, 2007 5:41 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

she learned it from William Gaddis, see the Recognitions, pages 309-310.

I have a feeling she means radical like "an amazing new concept". Kate is such a pioneer.

She really is. She pioneered anorexia, then she pioneered druglove, and now big girls.

que u mite b rite

The beard at Otto's table said, -- Is that Hemingway? Ed Feasley looked over at the Big Unshaven Man, who had just said, -- No queer in history ever produced great art. Feasley looked vague, but said -- There's something familiar about him...

-- I tell you, there's a queer conspiracy to dominate everything. Just look around, the boy with the red hunting cap said. -- Queers dominate writing, they dominate the theater, they dominate art. Just try to find a gallery where you can show your pictures if you're not a queer, he added, raising a cigarette between paint-encrusted fingers. -- What do you think women look so damned foolish for today? It's because queers design their clothes, queers dictate women's fashions, queers do their hair, queers do all the photography in the fashion magazines. They're purposely making women look more and more idiotic until nobody will want to go to bed with one. It's a conspiracy.

Beth Ditto, take comfort in the fact that I will never compliment your face.

that was published in 1955. so much for fashion forward.

haha

yeah what's weird is I read that section this morning???? so it was fresh in my mind

thanks for pointing it out, it's been some years since i read it so it was nice to crack it open just now. that book is a beautiful compendium of every stupid thing ever said in new york, from then until the end of time (since people keep saying stupid things). it's so good.

yeah it sure is, maybe i'll finish it this time!

i can't tell if she uses 'radical' to mean 'totally awesome and gnarly' or 'scarily extremist and revolting'. she's wrong either way.

Beth confirms she's like, radical but not toooo radical:

"I would never lose weight. I would never wear anything I didn’t want to wear, and that’s a really radical statement as a woman in the mainstream music industry. In a way, I almost think girls and women need a voice, and I think Gossip is a pretty cool voice. It’s not as radical as Bikini Kill was in the ‘90s, or riot grrrl was in the ‘90s—that really aggressive, super-macho hardcore punk scene had never seen anything like that before. It’s not as radical as that, but you’re not preaching to the choir anymore when you’re selling records in Barnes and Noble."

?

B&N doesn't sell records

still waiting for a ditto die-hard to school me

?? yeah it does. you can buy music at barnes & noble.

do they call ditto die-hards "dittoheads?"

hah

you can buy music at B&N but I have never seen vinyl there.

Steven Wells wrote a good article about the politics of pie-eating:

"This could be the start of a revolution. Maybe Dove and Slim-Fast and Heat, by hitching their flimsy fashion wagons to the stout carthorse of anti-anorexia, have inadvertently started an unstoppable wave of gorgeous gigantism. Maybe football fans will start chanting, "Who ate all the tape-worms?" Maybe six months from now, formerly skeletal Kensington grand dames will have their personal trainers force foie gras down their throats with tubes and plungers, in the meantime hiring thin women as social companions, so they'll look fatter by comparison in the photos in Harpers and Vogue.

Or could it be just a flash in the chip pan? When interviewers congratulated John Goodman for his smooth dancing moves in the movie King Ralph, he snarled back "Yeah, for a fat guy, right?" Because that could be all we're doing. Stopping in the street and tossing 50p pieces in the hat of the dancing fattie. Not because he's a particularly good dancer, but because he's so damn fat. And when the XXL radical-chic freak show's over, we'll go back to recruiting hordes of hungry boy-women and angsting about the size of our arses.

It could go either way. The world is agog. In the refugee camps of northern Sudan they talk of little else."

I would say dudes are progressing at the same rates as other men, so some of the old maxims don't necessarily apply to today's gay.

SMC ARE YOU KIDDING ME

another fat drug addict with an opinion

http://tonova.typepad.com/thesuddencurve/images/limbaugh_oxycontin.jpg

this actually happened, ppl.

Perez Hilton isn’t just a celebrity blogger. He’s a serious cultural force. Love him or hate him, at 7 million clicks a day, his infiltration into people’s daily lives is something most media outlets would die for. And more impressive is the fact that he does it all from a Wi-Fi connection in a West Hollywood coffee shop. Perez’s bread and butter might be the glossy celebs that get stripped bare on his sometimes scathing, occasionally sweet and always amusing site. But his championing of underdogs such as Beth Ditto stems from a true support for the underground and a kinship for “loud, obnoxious and openly gay” individuals, like the blogger himself.

http://www.urb.com/features/271/PerezHiltonCelebrity20.php

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/19/magazines-beth-ditto-love

^^ one of the few literate grauniad writers really drops the ball with this one tbh.

really, what has she done that's good? i just saw "writes at spiked-online" and the prejudice shutters came down.

^^ one of the few literate grauniad writers really drops the ball with this one tbh.

― "olympics rings" (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 19 February 2009 17:14 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Wait is that writer the chick who got kicked out of the Big Brother house for saying "n*gger"?

really, what has she done that's good? i just saw "writes at spiked-online" and the prejudice shutters came down.

― joe, Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:32 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i felt the same way, but over time i have come to accept it. her line is that to get into journalism you have to kiss arse and do internships (troo), and the spiked lot at least stumped up the money. or something.

pretty sure she's not that chick.

emily parr was that chick. they should at least give her cif spot as the new ruth fowler.

funnily enough (jesus christ i know too much about guardian writers) r-fow says she got 86'd by cif becuase of beth ditto.

Suzy better watch out, someone's gunning for her #1 spot

50'd by beth ditto

sonned by a wite paper after a beth ditto beef

50'd by beth ditto

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holdingonfortomorrow
19 Feb 09, 5:28pm (54 minutes ago)
That looks well Jackson!

^^^thought no-one was gonna make a Nathan Barley reference this time round, boy am I relieved

she clowns lucy mangan here, so some kudos is due imo

http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/reviewofbooks_article/3763/

who cares about either beth ditto or the gossip. i mean really.

But Pash! They're gonna make another record sometime, probably!

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She couldn't fit into a locker.

Another boring, forgettable record, Mark.

http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2009/05/not-sure-how-to-interpret-beth-ditto-upskirt-shots.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1193794/Fashions-big-fat-lie-Kate-Mosss-big-fat-friend-Size-zero-brigade-embrace-token-chubby-chops.html

whoever writes their urls is a fucking genius.

Kate-Mosss

You might not have heard of Beth Ditto.

Couldn't resist reading that. Wish I hadn't.

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00884/mercuryss6_884382a.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSPc5pcrqj0
loving this

ummm, yeah, that's p great. [added to playlist]

New EP is AMAZING. Plush Chicago House throwback a la Azari & III. Beth sounding restrained but glamorous. Sound design is scrupulous - if you told me "Good Night Good Morning" was a lost Fingers Inc. track I'd believe you.

"Do You Need Someone" esp. is U&K.

Produced by Simian Mobile Disco btw. Seriously people don't sleep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-xRaxdxEhA

Sounding good!

i can't remember what thread we talked about this on before but yeah it's surprisingly great

i'm ALL ABOUT i wrote the book. big love.

I just wish there was 12" versions of everything off the EP.

she gives really good advice

http://rookiemag.com/2013/05/ask-a-grown-woman-beth-ditto/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

haven't interviewed her... i was supposed to go to sing karaoke with the gossip in osaka but that was five years ago. but anyway i just logged in to say i'm still not over how good this song is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkBbqkKlCBo