We Built This City [On Rock an' Roll]

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Hell jesus i hate this song. They played it constantly.

Shaun (shaun), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:27 (twenty years ago) link

IT'S MARCONI!!!!!! MARCONI! MY SISTER THOUGHT IT WAS "CODY PLAYS THE MAMBA"...

MANDEE (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

assinine cause it is a synth driven song! the city is built on rock???

kephm, Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:49 (twenty years ago) link

Me and Mrs The Nipper once sang this as a duet at a hotel bar in South Dakota. Naturally we changed the lyrics to "we built Rapid City on Rock and Roll".

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:50 (twenty years ago) link

I'm still troubled by the whole playing-the-mamba thing. The dance is the 'mambo' surely. A mamba is a venomous snake. Why is Marconi playing a reptile?

NickB (NickB), Thursday, 4 December 2003 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

OH NO, THE GIANT DICE WILL CRUSH US ALL

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

xp: Marconi was gifted in the art of snake impersonations

nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:00 (twenty years ago) link

the sample on the Diplomats' "Built This City" has given me a whole new appreciation for the song.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

is there anything they can't do?

fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

the Dip Set? ...no, not really.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:36 (twenty years ago) link

I like that they managed to work in "hoopla."
Hoopla is nice to say.

Christian Rawk (Christian Rawk), Thursday, 4 December 2003 17:48 (twenty years ago) link

you could probably say it's hypocrital to complain about 'changing corporate names' when they'd, er, just changed their name to Starship. if you could be bothered.
in my memory this song is absolutely horrible, but i'd now be intruiged to hear it again

adam b (adam b), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:50 (twenty years ago) link

another song andrew wk should cover.

brian badword (badwords), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link

Is the "Taupin" listed in the writing credits to this song Bernie Taupin?

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

I like that they managed to work in "hoopla."
Hoopla is nice to say.

Agreed, but "Knee Deep In the Hoopla" was the name of the record.

Now that I think about it, "We Built This City" just might be the ULTIMATE corporate rock song.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:29 (twenty years ago) link

>Now that I think about it, "We Built This City" just might be the ULTIMATE corporate rock song.

It is indeed, if only because of the band's infamous gambit of sending it to radio stations with a blank spot where the DJ spiel goes (near the bridge), so each town's "rockinest" DJ could insert his own name and the station's call letters into the song.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 4 December 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link

it is very hard to work out why i ever disliked this song right now i must admit
Why do I hate this song?
Let me count the ways.

  • 1) Pompous, self-congradulatory lyrics by the withered husk of an overrated also-ran burnout hippee band who used...
  • 2) The most overcooked, lowest common denominator "new wave" (cough cough) productuion that was
  • 3) Inexpertly done by someone who obviously didn't give a shit and didn't warn the band that
  • 4) The song was monotonously played and repetitively arranged in a way that doesn't cover up
  • 5) the hopelessly cheesy guitar work or
  • 6) the vacuous synth/keyb or
  • 7) the lobotomized drumming or
  • 8) the lackluster singing or
  • 9) the dreadful lyrics (yes, I mentioned the lyrics already, but there is such a thing as bad lyrics and pompous lyrics. I already dealt with the pomposity of the lyrics, now I deal with the overall badness of the lyrics.) But the four worst things about this godawful song are
  • 10) That they actually kept recording even after any sane person would've realized that it deserved to be deleted.
  • 11) That they actually put in on the album even after any sane person would've realized that it didn't even deserve to be an obscure B-side.
  • 12) That they actually put plugged it as a single even after any sane person would've realized that it didn't even deserve to be on the radio at all. and absolutely worst of all....
  • 13) That it actually became a fluke smash hit and will forever be immortalized on every Sounds of the 80s Compilation until the end of time. Probably between a track by Toto and a track by REO Speedwagon.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 4 December 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

You can't list 12 reasons for its success, and then call it a 'fluke'!

dave q, Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:07 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
By "fluke" I mean the kind of nasty flatworm that lives in your liver and gives you jaundice.
And the above isn't "12 reasons for it's success", it's 12 reasons that -- in a just universe -- it would've been deleted, all the equipment smashed, all the session musicians summarily shot, and all the band members banished to garbage barge circumnavigating Antarctica.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:09 (twenty years ago) link

Sarah!
Sar-ar-ah! No
Time
is a
good
time for
good
bye!

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:13 (twenty years ago) link

I must mention the excellent Chevy Heston song "We Built This City."

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:38 (twenty years ago) link

If I sort of let my eyes cross, I read the thread title as We Built This City [On Organ Donors]

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:41 (twenty years ago) link

The Huckle-Buck, what is the name of that song?

Acid! Polizei! (ex machina), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:43 (twenty years ago) link

Sarah?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link

Starship played a casino here in ontario about 2 months ago - a few of us went down for the hell of it.

Almost got kicked out before the show started for no real reason other than the fact that we were nearly 20 years younger than the next youngest person.

So basically it sucked but it was f'n hillarious. They were tight on sarah and we built this city - almost like they've been playing it for 30 years.

not reccomended

rs, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

Not every bad song is actually a good song waiting to be rehabilitated. I understand the impulse, and Blender makes it very tempting. But sometimes junk is just junk.

spittle (spittle), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 22:42 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks. This song was in my head all last night while I was trying to sleep, and now I look at this and it's back again. I don't want to be alive anymore.

Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 22:43 (twenty years ago) link

"Now that I think about it, "We Built This City" just might be the ULTIMATE corporate rock song."

The M.W.U.A. (I can't remember exactly, If I'm wrong someone else might be able to give me the correct union) features stickers with the southern cross flag and 'We Built This City!' down the bottom.

Also, some of you will be pleased to know this song got voted the worst song ever.

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

I've had a fascination with the song for several months now. I find it really depressing somehow, esp. the break when the DJ is meant to record his or her voice over... I find it affecting in a way that I know it was never meant to be.

derrick (derrick), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:08 (twenty years ago) link

i have hated this song for a very long time.i feel betrayed, grace! how could you sing such UTTER CRAP? How? Why? *collapses into sobs clutching copy of Surrealistic Pillow*

Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:11 (twenty years ago) link

I've heard that the song was Co-written by Bernie Taupin. It was the first "hit" by Taupin without Elton John.

Nancy, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

that dj break makes it impossible for me to hate this song - one of the better 80s 'guaranteed to get radio airplay' gimmicks, along with the geospecific versions of "The Heart of Rock n Roll".

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

Also, if you sing this song out loud in your office, you will put smiles on people's faces.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

It's a fact.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:31 (twenty years ago) link

it's cuz of the civic pride factor

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:39 (twenty years ago) link

that reminds me, there's this dude in town with a tricked out civic and across the top of his front windshield it reads "Civic Duty"
Civic Pride, I can understand, but "Civic Duty" what's pimpin' about paying property taxes and voting for school board trustees?

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:40 (twenty years ago) link

think globally, act locally dude!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:41 (twenty years ago) link

huck, i like to downplay the fact that we live in the same city because i don't want to make you uncomfortable. but i see that car all the time! i think i might have mentioned it on ilm once.

ww, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 19:46 (twenty years ago) link

is rock and roll really a solid foundation on which to build a city? have the structural engineers been consulted?

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:25 (twenty years ago) link

it's a joke about how frisco's built on the faultline and they're all gonna die

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago) link

cheery

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link

it's some heavy shit, man

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

Do you think secret machines song 'marconi's radio' is a reference to this song?

Contrary to what's listed above, I'm pretty sure the lyric goes "Marconi plays the mamba listen to the radio".

I dunno, it's just always crossed my mind.

rs, Thursday, 22 April 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago) link

Marconi invented the radio. Or one of the more popular versions of radio.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

and in olden days, "Marconi" often refered to the radio itself.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

Huh, Bernie Taupin did cowrite it. I somehow didn't know that. Finally, the song makes sense to me.

spittle (spittle), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

that dj break makes it impossible for me to hate this song - one of the better 80s 'guaranteed to get radio airplay' gimmicks, along with the geospecific versions of "The Heart of Rock n Roll".

Very grudging respect for that one. But who remembers the part in the video where the guy made up like the Lincoln Memorial stands up and pumps his fist and mime-shouts along to the chorus?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:29 (twenty years ago) link

a ggl img search for lincoln rock roll turns this up:
http://www.lwemusic.org/EVENTS/picnic/picnic_pics/P8010169.jpg

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 April 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

"and in olden days, "Marconi" often refered to the radio itself."

just think, a slight change in cultural history and the quintessential prepunk anthem would have been "marconi on!"

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:41 (twenty years ago) link

or worse(?): "Wireless on!"

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Thursday, 22 April 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

just the idea of going to a minor key and deciding that the line was 'Ma Coley plays the mamba' .. i need an oral history of this

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:23 (six months ago) link

I thought it was 'Marconi plays the mamba' (because it's followed by 'listen to the radio)? Though I guess that doesn't really make much more sense. Is there a person called Ma Coley?

soref, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:27 (six months ago) link

I got a bunch of hoopla stuck to my shoe.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:32 (six months ago) link

Also, a mamba is a snake.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:37 (six months ago) link

The use of this song in the dead animal montage of Fall of the House of Usher was fantastic.

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 18:39 (six months ago) link

yeah i thought it was marconi!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:17 (six months ago) link

it's Marconi. but it still doesn't make sense

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:24 (six months ago) link

Especially because he's playing a mamba.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:24 (six months ago) link

a mamba can be an instrument, you can shake it and then emit a piercing yell when it bites the shit out of you

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:26 (six months ago) link

one of the all time great bullshit lines in pop history

Left, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:28 (six months ago) link

xp That's metal

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:28 (six months ago) link

Thomas: Bernie didn’t say “mambo,” he said “mamba,” which is a snake. Marconi created the radio. Maybe Bernie meant to say “mambo.” Maybe it means: If you don’t like this music, some really angry snakes are gonna come out of the speakers. (...)

At one point I did start to sing “mambo,” to try and be more grammatically correct, and after a while I thought, “Fuck it,” and went back to “mamba.”

Rhoda Morgenstern stan account (morrisp), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:29 (six months ago) link

who knows what kinda weird shit marconi was into

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:30 (six months ago) link

people love to hate this song but I don't mind it. it's Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now that I hate

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:31 (six months ago) link

what's going on with the timing in the chorus? why does the second part of the refrain seem to slam into the first in a hilariously awkward way?

Left, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:32 (six months ago) link

ultimately the song doesn't really hang together but it's trying its best and you have to respect that

Left, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:33 (six months ago) link

Marconi played your mama
listen to the radio

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:35 (six months ago) link

Stuck a feather in his cap and called it marconi played the mamba

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:41 (six months ago) link

It's no "White Rabbit."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:43 (six months ago) link

what's going on with the timing in the chorus? why does the second part of the refrain seem to slam into the first in a hilariously awkward way?


I think the syncopation on the “rock and roll” makes it sound abrupt when it cuts off, it sounds like “rock and robuilt this city”

brimstead, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:43 (six months ago) link

I might not be thinking of the same thing

brimstead, Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:43 (six months ago) link

at the time it was very punk

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:44 (six months ago) link

Police got the chokehold

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:44 (six months ago) link

we built this city, here's your invoice

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:45 (six months ago) link

Grace don't give two forks

Rhoda Morgenstern stan account (morrisp), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link

Starship - We Built This City vs Jefferson Airplane - Planes

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link

a popist and a malpropist

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:48 (six months ago) link

*mala

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:48 (six months ago) link

Speaking of punk, this reminds me of one of my favorite Creem moments. This guy otm. Kinda NSFW.

Speaking Of Boy Howdy!

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:50 (six months ago) link

https://gifer.com/en/BkdU

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:59 (six months ago) link

https://gifer.com/en/BkdU

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 19:59 (six months ago) link

what's going on with the timing in the chorus? why does the second part of the refrain seem to slam into the first in a hilariously awkward way?

This is the most clever bit in the song! They knew that it would be redundant to say the entire phrase "We built this city" four times in a row, so the third time they just say "built this city", but they sing "built" on the offbeat before the one where they usually sing "we", which keeps the chorus rolling nicely.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 October 2023 15:29 (six months ago) link

...before the one beat, that is.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 27 October 2023 15:30 (six months ago) link


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