Leno Replaces Conan on Tonight Show...

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Isn't Letterman supposedly a dick in real life too?

Nonac Oneirb, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link

All comedians ever = dicks.

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Shouldn't we all start assuming (if we haven't already) that rich and famous people are dicks? Just to be on the safe side?

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't Letterman supposedly a dick in real life too?

I can't imagine him being anything but. Back in the old days, that was his whole appeal. The "man on the street being a dick to regular people" bits were mean-spirited and genius.

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

i wonder if they will have to water down the show to pander to the older audience. that would be sad.
-- Emilymv (emilyventer...), September 27th, 2004.

as opposed to the 200 proof undiluted power that is conan's current show? puhleeze. talk shows are lame.

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:24 (nineteen years ago) link

10,000 men of Harvard
Want vict'ry today
For they know that o'er old Eli
Fair Harvard holds sway
So then we'll conquer old Eli's men
And when the game ends, we'll sing agin:
10,000 men of Harvard
Gained vict'ry today! (in five years)

am I the only one who felt like throwing a paperweight at Dan while reading this? Or am I the only ILXors with the boorish manners of a Yalie?

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like throwing a paperweight at people who delude themselves that talk shows can actually be "edgy"

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude The McLaughlin Group is out there. Supposedly that guy was grilling Carole King about 50 Cent.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

It is all relative, dude.

dude xpost

bnw (bnw), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Compare Jaywalking to the Masturbating Bear, though.

xpost

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

who's old Eli?

Symplistic (shmuel), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

according to my source, Carole announced that she did know 50 Cent but that it's actually FIDDY Cent (insp. McLaughlin to yell "FIDDY! FIDDY CENT!") and when she asked why he wanted to know he explained that his wife was a fan. This was all after he asked if she liked rap, if she liked hip-hop and then asked if she liked rap again.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like conan et al are just prostrating themselves every time they do a celebrity interview, it's a fucking horror show. that conan seems to balk just a bit humanizes him, but doesn't make the show any more bearable. leno is not human.

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

worse yet: not funny.

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i think nothing on tv dignifies the shitstorm of valuelessness that is advertising, but this is neither the time nor place to discuss it.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Conan should have jumped networks for an 11:30 show *now*. If that didn't work, in 5 years he could have just come back!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:34 (nineteen years ago) link

OTM. He'll be *worse* than Leno in 5 years.

why do old people and old users of ILX such bastardos (deangulberry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

that's impossible

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

we have laws that keep people from being worse than leno

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan isn't "edgy," but he and his writers often present an amusing sort of absurd humor (without the kind of Letterman-esque self-conscious "wackiness") that appeals to me.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link

The only way Conan could possibly be worse than Leno would be if he suddenly morphed into a transsexual Hitler and his entire show consisted of him shouting "HONOR THE FUEHRER!" while shooting jalepeno peppers out of his ass.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait , that would make him WORSE?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, if you like Hitlerboobs, be my guest.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

am., how do you feel about the talk show aspects of the Daily Show (mainly Jon Stewart's interviews of various celebrities and politicians)?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Conan isn't "edgy," but he and his writers often present an amusing sort of absurd humor

Exactly.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree, I like his sketches a lot more than his interviews, which are mostly about him anyway.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

And since when has edgy = good?

Huk-L, Monday, 27 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

if he suddenly morphed into a transsexual Hitler and his entire show consisted of him shouting "HONOR THE FUEHRER!" while shooting jalepeno peppers out of his ass

I see where you're going with this point, but that would be totally awesome. I'd watch that every night. "Hney look! It's the Tranny Hitler Ass Pepper show!" I mean, how could that not be entertaining?

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, if he was shooting them at the guests (and actually able to keep the big time celebs showing up) this would be the best show of all time.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

You people would make a horrible porn site focus group.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

we're not talking about porn!

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe we should be.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

'Cuz Conan really SUCKS these days.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Did anyone catch the episode last spring where Conan got mail from Finland (as a part of the "Conan O'Brien Hates My Country" series)? I haven't got a nationalist bone in me, but it was still kinda weird and cool hearing the Finnish national anthem in his show while he praised our wood industry and mocked Sweden.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:48 (nineteen years ago) link

tonight on Conan...Matthew Perry ("HONOR THE FUHRER!" "oh GOD no!")! Tea Leoni! ("HONOR THE FUHRER!" "ACK! MY EYE!") and Clay Aiken ("HONOR THE FUHRHER!" "*smiles blankly and tries not to stare at Conan's anus*)!

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

musical guests totally need to be dodging spicy anal projectiles.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

With Jon Stewart, you get the sense that his modesty and self-deprecation are real. With Conan it seems like much more of a character that he's putting on. That doesn't make him any less funny though, even if he isn't as good of a 'real' interviewer.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

This is all theory for me though, as I haven't been able to get in network, much less cable, tv in over a year.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

'Actual Items' rules.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, so when is ILE going to pool their finances to get me a production job on a talk show so I can implement this abhorrent-yet-wildly-entertaining show?

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:53 (nineteen years ago) link

from Conan's 'Actual Items'
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Late_Night_with_Conan_O

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(threadkillah!)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

am., how do you feel about the talk show aspects of the Daily Show (mainly Jon Stewart's interviews of various celebrities and politicians)?
-- n/a (nu...), September 27th, 2004.


usually dreadful....

YES I AM A CRANK

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

BOOOOO!

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:14 (nineteen years ago) link

sometimes the non-celebrity segments of conan are funny, but lately (last 5 years?) he just seems totally exhaused and spent and bored

amateur!!st, Monday, 27 September 2004 19:15 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.quizdiva.net/ass-target.jpg

Ain't That Peculiar (kenan), Monday, 27 September 2004 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks to the underdog timeslot and pedigree people see "edge" and more important, 'funny' that isn't there in COnan's show, never has been except sporadically. Letterman isn't cool to watch anymore but he still OWNZ(sp?).

tremendoidredcat, Monday, 27 September 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

jon stewart is a bad interviewer. he interrupts people all the time. it's annoying.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

that's true - he hits most people with a barrage of questions but doesn't let them answer.

Kim (Kim), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I turn off the Daily Show when it hits the interview portion. They're just painful, super-awkward and rarely funny.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't know a hell of a lot about how late night shows are booked but could conan run into trouble booking big name guests over fallon & craig ferguson (to say nothing of letterman & leno)? or does the name recognition of guests not even matter?

J0rdan S., Monday, 12 April 2010 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Apparently, Conan's going to finally own the show like Letterman does with his own. If the ratings are there (and they will be), he'll be beholden to no one but his own whims.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:43 (fourteen years ago) link

10pm is Comedy Central's "prime time" for all their original shows like South Park, i don't think they'd move that around to have another nightly talk show.

south park + a million failed shows

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, I never know exactly what's coming on after South Park from week to week.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 12 April 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

all I know is that it's probably gonna suck. 'ugly americans' has got to be the worst thing on television right now.

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I watched five minutes of it. That was enough.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder how much of their original programming is designed to make "Drawn Together" look like the pinnacle of modern comedy in retrospect.

Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't go that far!

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

I was considering mentioning 'drawn together' but I don't even want to think about it

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the fact that that show survived for 3 SEASONS is mindblowing

iatee, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

It was like television for juggalos.

ô_o (Nicole), Monday, 12 April 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Coming straight to DVD in one week: Drawn Together: The Movie

Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

what the

Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

like, I'm the only person on ILX who ever said anything kind about "Drawn Together" and I think that is a terrible, terrible idea

Bear Ana Gasteyer (HI DERE), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

so bizarrely conan's first road show was tonight in eugene, OR, which is where i live. we rarely get awesome things right here in town so my sisters and i went. it was basically a two-hour homage to the best bits of the show and it was pretty satisfying. andy richter was there! tbh i was more excited about seeing him than anyone else.

conan performed like six songs with the band in between comedy bits, and Spoon was in town for a concert so they showed up and played "i summon you." he also brought back the walker texas ranger lever (for legal reasons now called the "chuck norris rural policeman handle") and randomly brought out jack mcbrayer from 30 rock to pull it. i don't think he said a word, he just grinned in that elfish way he has.

he only mentioned the TBS thing in passing, but he seemed to be in genuinely good spirits and he and the band and everyone really went all-out. no max weinberg, but plenty of la bamba.

the international mooncake trade (reddening), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 09:34 (fourteen years ago) link

How George Lopez started his show last night:

http://www.tbs.com/video/index.jsp?oid=214335

(Spoiler: He's not funny.)

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link

all I know is that it's probably gonna suck. 'ugly americans' has got to be the worst thing on television right now.

― iatee, Monday, April 12, 2010 2:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

this show is mindblowingly bad

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Lopez thing was pretty unfunny, until they busted on Jay Leno. I can get behind that from anyone.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link

a train on jay leno, is what you're saying

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Last night George Lopez had Chris Rock on the show. He made three audience members play "Chris Rock Band". They recited Chris Rock routines to the audience while Chris Rock stood there and listened.

To say that Chris Rock looked mortified is an understatement.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link

lol probably about the same way i look whenever a person i know recites a Chris Rock routine irl

sipster cuppies (some dude), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:08 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ed3wjGWns

HOOS zing-steen (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Conan will film on the Warner lot

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/17/conan-obrien-to-film-tbs-_n_578365.html

We should probably make the Conan on TBS anticipation thread sometime.

Cunga, Monday, 17 May 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

This was only fun when there was frantic hair-pulling and eye-gouging between Conan, Leno and the NBC execs.

Aimless, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm still looking forward to the show. Stewart and Colbert both repeat about 4 times per day, so I can catch them after the fact.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 17 May 2010 17:46 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Roffle:

Big news on the late night TV battlefront today: The Tonight Show with Jay Leno posted its lowest-rated Q2 -- the first full quarter since Leno came back as host after Conan O'Brien was dumped -- since the Late Show with David Letterman launched on CBS in 1993.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:04 (thirteen years ago) link

ned, you have made me happy by posting that.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:07 (thirteen years ago) link

JAY "BIG JAW" LENO HAS DESTROYED THE TONIGHT-SHOW FRANCHISE

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:08 (thirteen years ago) link

Read a review of Conan's live show somewhere and they said he mostly just made jokes about the controversy for most of the time. Is this true? Sounds like it would get old fast.

Beach Pomade (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 July 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

it's funny. i saw a "tweet" from o'brien the other day, riffing on the controversy, and it fell flat for me.

but he's a funny -- and, here's the key -- inventive guy. he'll find new material. also: bitterness can be a great springboard for comedy.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

ConanOBrien

I don't care where LeBron James ends up... As long as it's not at 11pm on TBS.
about 3 hours ago via web

richie aprile (rockapads), Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah. i love conan o'brien. but move on.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 July 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Perrin on the new Bill Carter book on the Conan-Leno war:

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2010/12/giggle-in-beast.html

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 December 2010 15:49 (thirteen years ago) link

thanks for sharing that. it prompted me to reserve the book for when it's back at the library.

Cunga, Monday, 20 December 2010 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link


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