KRAUTROCK Listening Klub! - New Albums Every Wednesday

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gomorrha is amazing, thanks for posting that!

ashra williams (san frandisco), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

wikipedia discography page for conrad schnitzler is a laff - "partial discography" lists 99 albums!

dead flower :( (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 June 2010 21:59 (4 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if there exists someone who has all of his records....

dead flower :( (Pashmina), Thursday, 24 June 2010 22:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

who wants a friday bonus pick?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

OK, have one lying around I didn't use first time, give me a minute or two

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

ok!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Friday Bonus:

DEUTER - Aum

1972 album from Georg Deuter. A lot of people prefer his 1st album, which is more Krautrocky I suppose, it's good but this is better. Herr Deuter ended up as an avowed "New Age" musician but I will try not to hold that against him - after all Roedelius, Popol Vuh and other worthies have flirted with New Age. This album has New Age elements, some of it reminds me of what Popol Vuh were doing 6/7 years after this was released. Album flows together really well, you don't really notice just how sparse the instrumentation is.

Non spotify link

... don't know if this is on Spotify, it wouldn't surprise me if it was though.

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Friday, 25 June 2010 15:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

It isn't. I've not even heard of it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Listening to Dom now - the electronics and effects are awesome. It's very woozy and trippy, but I don't feel like it's overly tainted with the hippiness that some peripheral kraut bands tarnish themselves with.

emil.y, Friday, 25 June 2010 23:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

my neighbor is in the band von himmel (contemporary krautrock group), told him about this thread and he said DOM is his favorite krautrock album of all time, will listen tonight

ashra williams (san frandisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 23:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

*the Dom album posted above

ashra williams (san frandisco), Friday, 25 June 2010 23:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh man, 'Let Me Explain' is on now. IMMENSE.

emil.y, Friday, 25 June 2010 23:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Why ignore the bonus tracks when they're THIS GOOD?

emil.y, Friday, 25 June 2010 23:58 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, I've just checked, and it was recorded one hell of a long time afterwards. But it is great.

emil.y, Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

Should've specified I actually haven't heard the bonus tracks in a long time, I've got the earlier reissue with only four tracks.

I DRIVE A PORSCHE! WHAT DO YOU DRIVE?! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 26 June 2010 01:33 (4 years ago) Permalink

emil.y it's your go
30/06 - emil.y
7/07 - Matt #2
14/07 - Alan N
21/07 - pfunkboy

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 00:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

Okay, cool. Should have them up by mid-afternoon, though I am still fluctuating over one album choice. If I mail you in advance of putting them up do you think you could track down links? I could probably find some but have no way of checking they're the right thing.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 00:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

sure, you know my email or you can pass via msn

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 00:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

The Cosmic Jokers - Planeten Sit-In

In 1972, Rolf Ulrich Kaiser founded "Die Kosmischen Kuriere" where will be signed all the Cosmic jokers albums. The COSMIC JOKERS is not really a band but a reunion of several German musicians and personalities from the 70s psychedelic and esoteric philosophies (the mystic Sergius Golowin in the Lord Krishna project or the gipsy folk artist Walter Wegmuller in Tarot). The interest of this side project was to create a cosmic music with a virtual musical tribe to develop the world consciousness thanks to LSD. The COSMIC musical team gathered around the same message a bunch of well known musicians from the Berlin scene (Klaus Schulze, Manuel Gottsching...). The COSMIC JOKERS is an extreme musical trip, a unique adventure throw time and space. The music is for a large part improvised with proto-electronic gadgets combined to bluesy & spacey musical sentences built around the talented Manuel Gottsching's electric guitar style (always spacey and bluesy). This is real German acid music, a 'music of paradise', transcending music, breaking of the materialistic world, a protest against the reality. The combination of acid, music and fun acted as a catalyst for Kaiser's visionary powers.
- from Prog Archives

La Dusseldorf - La Dusseldorf

La Düsseldorfisn’t even the most revered La Düsseldorf work, ceding that title to Viva, which contains the frothy 19-minute opus, “Cha Cha 2000” and decidedly Neu!-like cover art. But Dinger never crafted a more glowingly seamless full-length than La Düsseldorf. Built on four lengthy tracks, La Düsseldorf laid floorboards over Neu!’s famous rhythm-mongering and fearlessly stacked punk’s rallying instincts, disco’s body-reverent trance, and pop’s vain sheen on top.
- from Stylus

Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill

Cottonwoodhill is one of the trippiest records ever made, capturing the intensity of the peak LSD experience far more successfully than any Timothy Leary recording, and even today, when many such documents from that era can sound silly and dated, Brainticket's fascinating debut still holds hallucinogenic potency. The record has only two proper songs, "Black Sand" and "Places of Light," with a side and a half of the album taken up by the three-part "Brainticket." "Black Sand" opens the disc with a driving funk beat and powerful organ and guitar interplay, adding in vocals distorted beyond coherency. "Places of Light" begins in a slightly lighter vein as a flute leads the proceedings, a looser jazzier piece that throws in some of Dawn Muir's odd spoken word vocals. Before one realizes what has happened, the piece has faded out and there is suddenly a crashing sound, car horns, and engines starting up. "Brainticket" is a bizarre roller coaster ride through weird sound effects and electronics, an endless organ riff, and Muir's acid-rush ramblings from hushed whisper to urgent screams, as any coherency she had earlier becomes lost to mind-expanding visions. Rather than the laid-back mellow groove of some psychedelic music from this era, Cottonwoodhill has a hyper energy in the frenetic organ riff and Muir's voice, like an acid trip out of control, while at times the various sound effects take over completely.
- from Allmusic

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

La Düsseldorf isn’t even the most revered La Düsseldorf work, ceding that title to Viva

This is a comparatively recent development

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Before anyone else (i.e. another pedant) butts in, Brainticket were not German

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

It is also a terribly terribly wrong development.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and I know Brainticket were (mostly) not German, and in fact I don't even count this album as krautrock (I'd say it was psychedelia). However, they are consistently listed as a krautrock band these days, and it's an amazing record, so I thought it was better to put up an album that I completely adore, rather than something like Eloy that I only like half of.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:49 (4 years ago) Permalink

Of course, I posted a punk record after all. I don't think any of Brainticket were German. Swiss/Belgian/English based in Italy, something like that?

It is also a terribly terribly wrong development.

Absolutely!

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

I was sure there was at least one German member, but the only evidence I can find is wikipedia, which doesn't really count. Looking at the LP now, maybe Werni Frohlich or Wolfgang Paap? Both names sound kind of German (more so than Joel Vandroogenbroeck, anyway).

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

Joel Vandroogenbroeck was the band basically... probably still is

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 11:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, definitely. There's some other project that he was involved in that I remember the guys from Ultima Thule saying was completely batshit mental, but I can't think for the moment. Can't even remember if I picked it up after that recommendation. Come on, brain.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 12:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

Okay, in searching for that, I found the bit from Crack in the Cosmic Egg on Brainticket, which seems to affirm that there is at least some German connection.

Brainticket were born out of a 60's jazz group featuring Belgian born keyboardist Joel Vandroogenbroeck, and as history was made, Brainticket became (like many other bands) the project of a visionary talent.

The early primeral roots of Brainticket can be traced back to 1968, as the nucleus of 'Dee Dee, Barry and The Movements, with Joel Vandroogenbroeck (organ, flute), Ron Bryer (guitar), and Wolfgang Paap (drums), thought this was more typical soul-spiced jazz and pop, typical of the era, and far away from the music they were later to create, as what Brainticket would unleash was extraordinary!

Together with a few like-minded musicians active in the South of Germany, Joel and friends inevitably gotcaught up in the fertile Krautrock scene, and like many other bands from the area, they formed an internationalcombo that drew on a wide range of influences.

Their debut COTTONWOODHILL has long been one of the most revered of psychedelic albums. Based next in Italy, a new version of Brainticket had evolved and the second album PSYCHONAUT covered a wide range of styles.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 12:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yah, quite like "Psychonaut" too

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 12:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

emil.y i posted those links to you

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 12:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

Thank you for the Kerrautrock!

The Cosmic Jokers - Planeten Sit-In
Not a Spotify link

La Dusseldorf - La Dusseldorf
Not a Spotify link

Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill
Spotify link

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

I suppose, for those who don't know the Cosmic Jokers story, I should give you the potted wiki version:

The Cosmic Jokers was never an ensemble, per se; its members did not play together as Cosmic Jokers, and in fact were not even asked to join the group. Their music was created from sessions put together by Rolf-Ulrich Kaiser early in 1973. He arranged for several acid parties to be held at the sound studio owned by Dieter Dierks, where musicians were offered drugs in exchange for recording tracks. Participants included Manuel Göttsching and Klaus Schulze of Ash Ra Tempel, Jurgen Dollase and Harold Grosskopf of Wallenstein, and Dierks. Prior to this, all of the musicians involved had been in the Cosmic Couriers, which had played on experimental recordings by Sergius Golowin, Walter Wegmüller, and Timothy Leary.

Kaiser took the tapes from these sessions, edited and mixed them with Dierks, and released them on his label, Kosmische Musik, complete with the musicians' pictures on the LP sleeve, without asking for their permission. Göttsching didn't find out about the record release until he heard it playing in a record store in Berlin and asked the counter help what was playing. Kaiser released five records under the name Cosmic Jokers in 1974, one of which was actually a label sampler and a second, Gilles Zeitschiff, consisted of Kaiser's then-girlfriend Gille Lettmann speaking over sounds taken from prior label releases. While none of the musicians were very happy with the recordings, Schulze was so angry after the release of Gilles Zeitschiff that he sued Kaiser. In 1975, Kaiser was forced to discontinue and withdraw the recordings, and he fled the country over the affair, abandoning the record label over the threat of impending legal problems.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 13:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

always been curious about the cosmic jokers, but was turned off by, yknow. that story.

and cottonwood hill is a great psych record! looking forward to giving it another listen

a lagoon par la mer (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tom D & Emil.y and I will never agree on the best La Dusseldorf album, will we?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, me and Emily agree, you're the one that's wrong

I am utterly and abjectly pissed off with this little lot (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 15:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

nah, I'm right.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 16:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

emil.y I'm interested in why you'd pick that Cosmic Jokers album over their first two, which I like a lot. I consider Planeten Sit-In and the subsequent ones to be diminishing returns with the same material remixed over-and-over.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to fence-sit, and say that I like Viva and La Dusseldorf equally- both great records. Looking forward to hearing the Cosmic Jokers and Brainticket.

Neil S, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:22 (4 years ago) Permalink

emil.y I'm interested in why you'd pick that Cosmic Jokers album over their first two, which I like a lot. I consider Planeten Sit-In and the subsequent ones to be diminishing returns with the same material remixed over-and-over.

I'm afraid the answer to this is rather prosaic - I only own Planeten Sit-In, Gilles Zeitschiff and the label sampler for the US on vinyl, and I have computer problems so can only listen along sporadically if I'm relying on mp3. Out of the three, I thought that Planeten Sit-In was probably more representative of the whole thing, so chose that. I do know and like the others, but I would rate them all about equal in terms of quality.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Fair enough. Oh, and for anyone interested, by "first two" I meant "Cosmic Jokers" and "Galactic Supermarket". I think their albums were all released at the same time and I'm not sure where I got the order I have them listed in.

fit and working again, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 17:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

I forget which I liked best as it's been so long. I remember reading an anti krautrock thing on perfect sound forever that hated cosmic jokers especially

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

Florian Fricke of Popol Vuh comes off even worse in the article

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 20:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

It didn't seem that way to me--more that the author of whatever article misrepresented or oversold Fricke.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

he kept slagging him off!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 22:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Was there more to the article than just that one page?

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

The most funny thing was that a man who is known for literally HATING electronics from about 1974 until recently, Florian Fricke (of "Popol Vuh"), was called THE EXPERT of electronic instrumentation in that magazine. Disgusting. The same author was named as "authority" and "adviser" when a German film company asked us to take part in a TV film about "Krautrock". We said no. As long as this man was a "authority" for them, we didn't want to participate in a film like that. Ask the people who were present, and who have no interest to make promotion, who are not just (foreign) fans, and who tell the simple truth. Today, all musicians tell the press that they used "electronics" since ages just because "electronic" has finally won. And who want to be the loser?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:08 (4 years ago) Permalink

I have a German friend like the guy who wrote that article - "Ach! These bands, they are a joke in Germany! You crazy English kinder!" (and then proceeds to exoticise the Canterbury scene). Thing is, we actually got him to admit he was an idiot and that Faust were great, once he got over the fact that other Germans didn't like them.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

anyway, Individuellos is the best album *runs away*

zappi, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

YOU OF ALL PEOPLE are not allowed to speak such heresy.

emil.y, Wednesday, 30 June 2010 23:57 (4 years ago) Permalink


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