funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

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i wasn't able to d/l mp3s in barcelona, but i hate drake too much to be receptive of even remixes, unless they seriously REMOVE HIM completely (from LIFE preferably)

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

roska was wicked at sónar btw, so weird and good to see him playing on such a massive stage. he played a really housey set that seemed to alternate between sweeter, soulful sounds and anthems, and the dryer, percussive stuff that focuses on odd rhythms that's beloved of tim (and that reminds me most, weirdly, of dudes like untold and ramadanman in its relentless focus on the beats over, well, anything else). and then he played a blend of "axel f" and "pon de floor".

ms dynamite's "get low" was THE anthem of the festival btw.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 20 June 2010 19:18 (thirteen years ago) link

The Ramadanman resemblance in particular isn't that surprising - even his dubstep stuff often resembles funky ("Blimey" is a good example of this) while "Wad" is still the best dubstep-producer-attempts-funky-track ever.

But yeah a lot of the stuff I consider "anthems" this year (Devine Collective's "House Girls 6", Emvee's "Windrush Riddim", Aramac's "Hurt Inside", Naughty Raver's "Drama", Smooth Kriminal's "Stop Dat", the Andy J & S-Tee remix of "Reign", all the Marcus Nasty/Bassboy tunes, Undisputed's "Sunglasses" carrying over from last year, all of LR Groove's best tracks) are basically just "rollers" in the old jungle circa 1994 sense (see discussion with r|t|c upthread re LR Groove's "rollers").

In a lot of ways it's this stuff that is destined to be forgotten in the future, in much the same way that similar tracks were in the context of 2-step. Ultimately people remember vocal anthems of MC-driven tracks whether they approve of them or not, but a lot of listeners require a certain auteur-appreciation-consensus to really get behind rollers in any specific sense (rather than them just soundtracking a night out). Roska himself has, relatively speaking, benefited from this insofar as his own facility with this form allows him to act as a kind of focal point for people's appreciation of this sound (though obv a lot of Roska's productions like "I Need It" or "Wonderful Day" etc don't fit this mould at all).

he played a really housey set that seemed to alternate between sweeter, soulful sounds and anthems, and the dryer, percussive stuff that focuses on odd rhythms that's beloved of tim (and that reminds me most, weirdly, of dudes like untold and ramadanman in its relentless focus on the beats over, well, anything else). and then he played a blend of "axel f" and "pon de floor".

This sounds basically like "what you'd want" from a uk funky set generally (and I mean "you" as in I/we rather than as in "lex"). Roska's a pretty good DJ IMO.

Tim F, Sunday, 20 June 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah it was def what i wanted at the time, though i respond to that dry, bare-bones percussiveness a lot better outside of a uk funky context -one ramadanman set at plastic people a while back in particular blew my mind because there was so much space and so many intricate rhythms - but that's a context i was expecting a certain degree of aridity in anyway, and not so much sexiness or soulfulness. that's where i could really appreciate a track like "squark".

as a dj roska's ideally placed to bring them into a funky context i guess, given his more melodic and textural side. i'm not sure i'd really miss the perc-only stuff - they were the sections of the set where people's dancing slowed to a vague shuffle and where you started to worry that some people might wander off somewhere else.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 21 June 2010 08:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh if you're talking about "Squark" kinda stuff that's not really what I mean.

I mean, "Get Low" before it was "Get Low" (when it was "Crackish") is basically the kind of thing I mean when I think of percussive uk funky jamz.

Tim F, Monday, 21 June 2010 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

if you live in london you can go and see marcus and petchy on the same night, should be nice. if you dont like marcus nasty and petchy then what you doing on this thread?

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Luka, Friday, 25 June 2010 02:59 (thirteen years ago) link

pon reflection i don't think i would extended the rollers term as far as tim's done - which isn't to say the tracks he's picked don't ever roll per se but only that bona fide rollers ought (imo) to be those tracks that seem to exalt in their own pure rollage - there should be a kinda compulsive/meditative tunnel vision vibe to them, unperturbed by any jacking or stabbing or grooving or moshing or whatever. (chief recent example beyond the lr grooves - hardhouse banton's 'colonel', which never fails to bring to mind a runaway minecart on an underground railroad or something).

i won't lie that i'm also just trying to give a swerve to the unrewarding-feeling leaden dnb baggage of the term. perhaps the distinction should be... "tracky"?

r|t|c, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link

in other news (that people probably already know) maxsin the other week said there's a funkystepz ep coming out soon with 'malibu', 'leave with you', 'trinity hill', and maybe a tune called 'sweet love' on it.

also the video to the donaeo's out but the track sounds too slow on it to do much out-of-context damage imo - like, you're not supposed to have enough time to think about it.

r|t|c, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

ooh and the new marcus set is recorded tapepack style live from zante with a mc - v enjoyable change of pace

r|t|c, Friday, 25 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

would luv 2 pull the pin and lob this into a funky set

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUFpK9PnUQ

KABOOM

r|t|c, Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

ugh this new marcus set (30/6) is AAAAARD

http://relay.exequo.org/rinsefm/podcast/MarcusNasty300610.mp3

not too much vocals - just 2hrs of pure tribal madness mixxed tight as a drum

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 09:16 (thirteen years ago) link

honestly its a shame i'm idealogically opposed to putting radio sets etc on album end of year lists and lolz never do them anyway cos this set would go str8 to the t-o-p, serious

r|t|c, Saturday, 3 July 2010 09:27 (thirteen years ago) link

This set is awesome. I don't know if I've ever heard Marcus mix so quickly from one track to the next again and again and again. Some of the blends are inspired, e.g. Drew Austin's Drake remix into "Inflation".

Tim F, Monday, 5 July 2010 23:23 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW, I was able to ID the first track from the June 9 Marcus Nasty set.. it's "It's What You Do" by the Fives: http://soundcloud.com/the-fives/its-what-you-do

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Monday, 5 July 2010 23:31 (thirteen years ago) link

sweet thnx rtc

blap...tremendo (deej), Tuesday, 6 July 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

ALSO Donae'o's "So Fly" ---> Geeneus' "Crackish" = ridiculously good transition.

One weird thing about this set being so tribalistic and instrumental is that it reminds me more than usual of certain types of minimal, like stuff that Kindisch might have put out circa 2007.

Tim F, Tuesday, 6 July 2010 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link

course you then find yourself bowled over by what's left maximalist in there - the goofyness of devine's 'eyes on you' and the mj riddim retrospectively adopting like an old bollywood nth-generation vhs vibe, or yeah that amazing section with the drake remix deliquescing into treble ullulaion, into 'inflation', into lil silva 'night skanker', pincered by the brazilian madness of the havana cultura remix and whatever that dutty new altered natives one is [id plz]... haha and that spyro mix of modjo 'lady' (!!) later on..... mm anyway

i tried tracklisting this set to test how bad i still am at remembering the names of all these tribal riddims and true enough got bored of pressing the ? key, especially for the last hour - would be an awesome funky document though

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:44 (thirteen years ago) link

loving eastwood's 'soft touch' too, purely cos of the name - what else would you call a giant terrifying electrical power thrum after all

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

"Eyes On You" really is ridiculous.

Actually I vote we see this through, work as a team, us and you:

0:00: ??? It's the famous lost track from that November 2008 set
2:10: ??? Feel like I should know this vocal tune
4:35: ???
5:10: ??? Possibly a continuation of the previous track
6:25: Devine Collective - Eyes On You
8:06: ??? Classic though obv
10:05: Devine Collective - Thriller Refix
11:20: J Labelz - Call Me - some not terribly successful remix
12:30: ??? BIG though
15:18: ??? Hear this vocal tune lots though
17:00: Hardhouse Banton - Reign (Dumplin Remix)
20:07: If I'm not mistaken, it's the Miss Fire with the one Sticky
22:00: Marcus Nasty & Bassboy - Stamp (I think?)
23:22: ???
25:20: ??? Ashamed at not knowing this
27:25: ??? Some kind of "Gabryelle" bite

Will do more later.

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh duh 15:18 is Eastwood's "Right There".

Tim F, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 13:18 (thirteen years ago) link

sexy lady be my queen!!!!!!!

moullet, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 13:36 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure 11:20 is j labelz related besides subject matter. 12:30 is a new lr groove i am pretty sure. 20:07 is barber bizzle ft jj soul 'got that something'. marcus nasty / bassboy is called 'drip' i think but i forget

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link

The track that's mixed out of the vocal tune from 2:10 and then through 4:35/5:10 is Elevated Levels by Roska

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link

27:25: - ? feel this could be crazy cousinz or else yeah gabryelle refix
29:00: - ?
29:40: - ?
33:30: drake - find your love (drew austin remix)
34:45: crazy cousinz - inflation
37:45: havana cultura - chekere (seji remix)
39:17: lil silva - night skanker
42:04: altered natives - ??? sick!
47:30: - ?
49:50: supaneer - congo natty? forget how it goes
51:43: - ?
52:55: eastwood - soft touch
54:22: - ?
55:20: modjo - lady (spyro refix)
56:52: - ?
59:09: mj cole - volcano riddim
60:39: lr groove - just believe
61:45: altered natives - rass out

(several of those -?s are marcus standards i'm sure ppl will know)

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link

23:22 could be scratcha dva based on sound and shout-out

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link

haha i taped the last hour of tonights set (featuring new dubs + shantie!) and am already instantly bored of last week's extravagangsta - <3 you funky

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/homerdonuts.gif

r|t|c, Wednesday, 7 July 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link

42:04: altered natives - ??? sick!

Yes this took my head off on first listen!

Tim F, Thursday, 8 July 2010 06:35 (thirteen years ago) link

radio rip of the new roll deep/ill blu remix if anyone's interested

http://www.zshare.net/audio/781028469de58db3/

overwhelming martial madness once again

r|t|c, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link

I would be quite happy for Ill Blu to go through the rest of his career only remixing pop grime tracks.

Matt DC, Thursday, 8 July 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link

42:04: altered natives - ??? sick!

It looks like this was played on Marcus Nasty's show yesterday evening as well... maybe 10-11 minutes in? It sounds like it's ID'd as "Hit not Miss"

matt damon & the jb's (the anephric project), Thursday, 8 July 2010 23:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah 17 minutes - i wager "this one hit not miss" is a classic type shantieism though

how good does shants sound on that whole floaty section immediately after it btw, got me feeling emotional for a sec

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

love this thing that we call life
shantie don't check for the asking price

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link

the new "i don't care, no i don't care" vocal cut right after that too - tremendous

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:06 (thirteen years ago) link

glad these guys are going on holiday for a bit, gonna check myself into funky rehab i think

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 00:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Haven't had a chance to download the new set yet but my favourite recent Shantie rhyme is the "what's GWANNING cuz?? Why are you startin' trouble/when you can bounce and bubble?!?" one.

not sure 11:20 is j labelz related besides subject matter.

yeah sorry this is a dodgy remix of La Cartier's "Call Me" not J Labelz's "Touch Me".

Tim F, Friday, 9 July 2010 01:29 (thirteen years ago) link

at least 40% of that assertion was just me not wanting it to be true tbh, 'touch me' is unimpeachable

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link

one of my favourite things about garage mc-ing i think is when conversational hosting imperceptibly takes on a rhythm all by itself, before lauching back into a full-fledged lyric when the riddim drops -- shantie does this so, so well especially with his peculiar circularity sometimes (cf "hit not miss" i guess), he's like a dreamy kurupt

shake it down, riddim and beat in here
style and sound
shantie's the mc londons the town
do it for the black white blue brown
riddim, beat, style and sound
easy the gang thats on the shakedown
in we go

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

at least 40% of that assertion was just me not wanting it to be true tbh, 'touch me' is unimpeachable

Yes, one of my absolute favourite diva tunes of the year. "Call Me" is pretty great though, both the Fuzzy Logick production original and the Roska remix (which is maybe Roska's best tune this past 12 months).

Re Shantie's rhythmatic rhymes, I really like "Shant lyricilly goin' in for the killy and we're hot and we're flame and we burn like chilli"

Tim F, Friday, 9 July 2010 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link

your one previous mention of that roska remix last october seems to be the only online record of its existence alas

have found listed a "soulful house mix" of 'call me' on a wireless sound mix a couple of months ago however so that's 11:20 sorted if we're still on that

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 10:56 (thirteen years ago) link

if anyone feels like deigning to listen to something that isn't a radio set, i absolute love this scratcha dva mix - http://disko404.org/podcast/podcast.html

1. COOLY G - UP IN MY HEAD
2. FINGAPRINT - RISING SUN
3. L VIS 1990 - FOREVER YOU
4. SMASHER - DUBZ 2
5. DVA - NEW WORLD ORDER
6. MAGNETIC MAN - I NEED AIR (REDLIGHT REMIX)
7. BOK BOK - DANCE REPORT
8. FUNKYSTEPZ - FULLER
9. BREACH - FATHERLESS (DOC DANEEKA REMIX)
10. DONAEO - IM SO FLY
11. R1 RYDERS - HYDRAULIC
12. DEEP TEKNOLOGI - DISTORTION 101
13. EL B - I FEEL
14. KODE 9 - BLACK SUN
15. DVA & STARKEY -
16. GREENMONEY - WHO'S GREENMONEY (DUB MIX)
17. REDLIGHT FT MS DYNAMITE - WHAT YOU TALKIN' ABOUT

and i don't know if i've raved about the new greenmoney gold ru$h ep but it's a must for anyone into the dancehall vocalist end of things - mz bratt/lady chann/serocee over ruff'n'tuff beats - http://www.foolsgoldrecs.com/blog/2010/06/22/greenmoney-gold-rush/

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 9 July 2010 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

8. FUNKYSTEPZ - FULLER

^ yeahhh this tune is a madness - the evil razor slinky attack cousin to naughty raver's 'drama'!

lol don't try turning the prissy tables though.

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

greenmoney ep was pretty middling i thought - 'suh mi stay' is fun but eisegete axis struggling with the flava once again otherwise

are post-dropoff south rakkas crew not still signed to fools gold btw? their time now surely

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Lex the passive aggression is misplaced - the fact that you don't like to listen to radio sets doesn't mean we don't listen to anything else.

This set looks great - will download. And yeah "Fuller" is massive, total ravey madness chaos (wrote "madness" w/o even realising r|t|c had just said the same).

BTW that "Call Me" remix is on Roska's 100% Roska productions special for Rinse from September last year. I should up it as it's basically the only Roska set one really needs. The remix is awes, has a fantastic "Pump Up The Jam"-but-ridiculously-stop-start-syncopated feel to it.

Tim F, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Dunno if I ever mentioned this short Undisputed BBC 1xtra special mix earlier in the year:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ryrk21

Anyway, it's lots of fun, if you don't mind hearing several different iterations of "Sunglasses" (which I certainly don't). Really teases out the bassline influence on funky, lots of slithery slimy but metallic synth sounds and bassline-ish MC-tracks.

Tim F, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:24 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp saying all that i'm enjoying this picking up carnival momentum lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsXSfvtp8K0

richie dan is a no-brainer though obv.

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:28 (thirteen years ago) link

at some point i shall have to confront the influence of major lazer on todays music without resorting to the afrojack solace haha

i assume no one checked out the busy signal youtube upthread btw?

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

i did! it's kind of nuts, i like it.

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Friday, 9 July 2010 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

do feel like roska has suppressed a more colourful impulse throughout his career in lieu of the edgy minimalist moneymaker

was BOUNCE ever released??

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:49 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.zshare.net/audio/78134353eca0427f/

lol soz forgot to paste it in

r|t|c, Friday, 9 July 2010 12:50 (thirteen years ago) link


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