surely u don't mean the standard cliches pandering to a demographic that he calls "uncannily in tune with women's psyches"?
― Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
mos def, pharoahe monch, devin the dude, z-ro, freddie gibbs & max b are all singing mcs btw rich
― Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
boosie/webbie - "independent" > 'thank me later'
― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, the point about singing rappers was a bit nonsensical, especially with him pointing out lil kim, one of the most terrible singers i have ever heard, as an example
― ban grocery bagger (The Reverend), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
haha ok that "uncannily" phrase is a stretch (and yeah, rich appears to be nodding along tropes he should be challenging), but that lyric is probably the best Drake-to-lady couplet I've seen in any review yet, if by default. this is just the first review i've seen that describes what could be a sundae, rather than describing shit and calling it a sundae.
― da croupier, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
also I like that he's calling drake a neutered anomaly rather than the voice of our collective aspirations or whatever
― da croupier, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
rich always has a pretty good perspective on music, just think he's failed on the "taste" front here
― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:03 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah even when I disagree with his conclusions he can be totally OTM:
Forget the baggage and just listen to what an anomaly he is. He raps like he's repressing a squeak, his voice frequently flirting with shrillness (that's made even clearer when he contrives a more booming delivery -- on the braggy single "Over," he goes for butch but just sounds hoarse).
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
"You say you droppin’ 10 lbs., preparing for summer / And you don’t do it for the men, men never notice/ You just do it for yourself, you the fuckin’ coldest"
to me this is a dude watching tv/reading Cosmo in order to pick up "insights" to hit on females with. i guess using em in records is hella novel. bow down.
it's a retread of his most successful lines
"sweatpants, hair tied, chillin' with no makeup on/ that's when you're the prettiest, i hope that you don't take it wrong"
which is well-executed but basically steve martin in Housesitter
― Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
i mean i care a lot less about whether Drake LOOKS "the way a rapper should look" than that he doesn't SOUND like any rapper i'd want to listen to i.e. his voice and delivery are fucking annoying
xpost
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
follwed with "...you the fuckin' best" of course xpost
― Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
"Drake sounds like he reads cosmo" is more intriguing than anything in that damn pitchfork review.
― da croupier, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm willing to bet that drake would brag about reading cosmo if he was asked about it
― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link
kind of amazing to me that people still think "fame isn't all it's cracked up to be" is a novel or worthwhile topic for a musician to explore.
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i read the SHIT outta some cosmo... SCENTED TOILET PAPER
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:30 (thirteen years ago) link
schadenfreude is never going to go out of style
― HI DERE, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
lol forks
― call all destroyer, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:36 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm talking about the rave reviews that are all "he doesn't seem all that thrilled about being a superstar rapper ISN'T THAT FASCINATING?" xp
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:37 (thirteen years ago) link
well, some of those reviews are playing the "this kid is a superstar with seemingly little effort and I'm not, but that's okay because he's telling us superstardom sucks" card (implicitly IMO)
I don't really care either way; the banality of your topics is immaterial if you sound great while rapping/singing about them.
― HI DERE, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:39 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, totally. i just think it's funny how many people are selling his most banal ideas as his innovative fresh hook.
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
There have been a lot of "succeeded at the game/hustle and now it's wearing me out" types in hip-hop but I can't think of very many "grew up in the burbs and now my sense of privilege haunts me" types (btw I am not saying that is what Drake is, but it is certainly the way the reviews paint him)
ugh I suppose I should listen to his album if I really want to talk about him
― HI DERE, Friday, 18 June 2010 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
this is the curse of the event album
― Gohamist (zvookster), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:47 (thirteen years ago) link
totally
― fantast (ico) (some dude), Friday, 18 June 2010 15:55 (thirteen years ago) link
i couldnt make it thru one song tbh
― its like why GROCERY BAG and not saddam? (deej), Saturday, 19 June 2010 07:36 (thirteen years ago) link
royce can sorta pull these types of punchlines off in a way i don't hate
― nuge spock (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 June 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
So can T.I.
― an artist-mutant going beyond gender (The Reverend), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah
i guess i'm basically just saying "i like it when awesome rappers rap than when shitty rappers rap"
― it's detlef season, you schremps (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 June 2010 22:34 (thirteen years ago) link
poll
― I have been forks-style since day one (forksclovetofu), Friday, 25 June 2010 23:37 (thirteen years ago) link
No.
― grin and ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ it (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 June 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
so drake has now disowned grocery bag rap punchlines apparently, or something
Well, that flow has been killed by so many rappers. And, I never want to use that flow again in life. (Laughs) I wanted to take if off my album, because I was like, “I shut ‘em down. Onyx.” I hate the fact that that rhyme is still in there ... Me and Wayne found a dope way to do it. I don’t want to sound cocky, but the best way its been used was on “Forever.” Those lines just all individually make so much sense. They’re all punchlines. Then a bunch of rappers started doing it and using the most terrible references in the world. I don’t want to offend somebody…I hate that rappers picked that flow up. I wish they had left that for people that know how to use it. They go like “It’s a parade! MACY’S!”
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
drake + wayne - we invented teh punchline vol. 1
― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link
no no apparently it was jay sean
― samosa gibreel, Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
drake thinks a biiiiiiit too highly of himself but otherwise is extremely otm
― this ain't ilxxx (k3vin k.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
lol @ drake shitting on ludacris
i wonder how he feels about "it's going down... BASEMENT"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
kevin, calling drake otm there is like calling a serial killer who shows remorse during his trial "otm"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I think with it's a parade... macys is a nice way of calling out Luda for I blow em up.... ¡balloons!
― The Makavelian 7-Day Old (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
On phone so didn't see xpost
calling his "forever" verse dope is as offensive as racism to me
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link
I don’t want to sound cocky, but the best way its been used was on “Forever.” Those lines just all individually make so much sense.
YOU HAVE A "PUNCHLINE" IN YOUR VERSE THAT GOES "If I WAS IN THE CLUB, YOU KNOW I'D BALL/ CHEMO"
― incredible length (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link
it's "I balled", which makes more sense but is still totally rmde
― suge ♞ (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't get it
― this ain't ilxxx (k3vin k.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
balled = bald
― suge ♞ (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
it's rather oblique, yeah
― suge ♞ (The Reverend), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:55 (thirteen years ago) link
good god
― this ain't ilxxx (k3vin k.), Saturday, 26 June 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
The comments in that savage column are this OMG BRAGGIN 2010 faux-naïveté bullshit like "Ive never heard ANY of these songs" and "WHO IS THIS 'Katie Perry'" which is like cool Internet post-millenial white-boy version of "I don't even OWN a tv" v. 2.0
― The Makavelian 7-Day Old (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:03 (thirteen years ago) link
wrong thread imo
― suge ♞ (The Reverend), Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
wrong thread in fact too
― ~athdouspart (some dude), Sunday, 27 June 2010 00:22 (thirteen years ago) link
man i fucking hate drake
― obvious and old and bannable (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 June 2010 02:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I wish they had left that for people that know how to use it.
UGH FFFFFTHHHHH DIE
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I wish they had left that for people that know how to use it.UGH FFFFFTHHHHH DIE
lol both otm. love that http://2new4u.com/Downloads/wp-content/uploads/drake.jpg is implying that Ludacris is someone who is too lyrically inexperienced to handle such an ~innovative rap trend~
fwiw luda's delivery on the "balloons" line makes me lol so much that I will always give it a free pass.
― ice to see you (crüt), Sunday, 27 June 2010 09:58 (thirteen years ago) link