most pathetic excuse for wordplay in Young Money's "Bedrock"

I guess critics didn't have to write "we are all rick springfield" back in the day because there were enough worthwhile, successful-enough artists to not bother with corporate rock the way they do now with corporate rap. Unless they did! I wasn't there.

honestly although there's always going to be some hivemind stuff going on with a lot of critics, i don't think it's fair at all to say anyone is toeing the line to keep their job. i mean unless you work for Rolling Stone and are trying to pan the new Springsteen or are at some irrelevant little site or local paper that only prints positive reviews, nobody's writing raves to avoid getting fired.

haha yeah i know, its usually more of a "drinking the kool-aid because we like the taste of kool-aid" thing than "drinking the kool-aid because otherwise my editor will shoot me" thing. it's just...wow, this kool-aid.

http://media1.break.com/dnet/media/2009/7/68%20oh%20yeah.jpg

what did you think of the record, forks? since this is now the drake thread i guess

et tu, juzwiak? http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2010/06/the-evolved-male.html

still haven't cracked it; I'm behind on my listening by about a month. Should I go ahead and youtube listen and get it out of the way you figure?

tbh T.I. could drop a Drake cover album and I would enjoy that more than Drake himself, because I really can't stand the way dude sounds

― cunty body bean sauce? (HI DERE), Friday, June 18, 2010 6:46 AM Bookmark

hearing tip say "make the pussy whistle like the andy griffith theme song" and lolling now tbh

i'm not gonna criticize people for what they look for in rap, but if you can sit thru that whole drake album simply cuz he's "gayer" than other rappers is... more power to you, i guess?

i mean if you really want to listen to rap that pushes the boundaries of masculinity and sexuality in hip-hop, you might want to listen to the dude that calls himself a fag and a bitch on record and compares himself to the queen of england

^^^^

et tu, juzwiak? http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2010/06/the-evolved-male.html

at first i was like "oh, not rich too..." but he actually found a half-way interesting lyric relating to women and focuses more on what's (allegedly, I still haven't heard it and I'm not in a rush) beguiling about the sound of Drake.

surely u don't mean the standard cliches pandering to a demographic that he calls "uncannily in tune with women's psyches"?

mos def, pharoahe monch, devin the dude, z-ro, freddie gibbs & max b are all singing mcs btw rich

boosie/webbie - "independent" > 'thank me later'

yeah, the point about singing rappers was a bit nonsensical, especially with him pointing out lil kim, one of the most terrible singers i have ever heard, as an example

haha ok that "uncannily" phrase is a stretch (and yeah, rich appears to be nodding along tropes he should be challenging), but that lyric is probably the best Drake-to-lady couplet I've seen in any review yet, if by default. this is just the first review i've seen that describes what could be a sundae, rather than describing shit and calling it a sundae.

also I like that he's calling drake a neutered anomaly rather than the voice of our collective aspirations or whatever

rich always has a pretty good perspective on music, just think he's failed on the "taste" front here

yeah even when I disagree with his conclusions he can be totally OTM:

Forget the baggage and just listen to what an anomaly he is. He raps like he's repressing a squeak, his voice frequently flirting with shrillness (that's made even clearer when he contrives a more booming delivery -- on the braggy single "Over," he goes for butch but just sounds hoarse).

"You say you droppin’ 10 lbs., preparing for summer / And you don’t do it for the men, men never notice/ You just do it for yourself, you the fuckin’ coldest"

to me this is a dude watching tv/reading Cosmo in order to pick up "insights" to hit on females with. i guess using em in records is hella novel. bow down.

it's a retread of his most successful lines

"sweatpants, hair tied, chillin' with no makeup on/ that's when you're the prettiest, i hope that you don't take it wrong"

which is well-executed but basically steve martin in Housesitter

i mean i care a lot less about whether Drake LOOKS "the way a rapper should look" than that he doesn't SOUND like any rapper i'd want to listen to i.e. his voice and delivery are fucking annoying

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follwed with "...you the fuckin' best" of course xpost

"Drake sounds like he reads cosmo" is more intriguing than anything in that damn pitchfork review.

i'm willing to bet that drake would brag about reading cosmo if he was asked about it

kind of amazing to me that people still think "fame isn't all it's cracked up to be" is a novel or worthwhile topic for a musician to explore.

i read the SHIT outta some cosmo... SCENTED TOILET PAPER

kind of amazing to me that people still think "fame isn't all it's cracked up to be" is a novel or worthwhile topic for a musician to explore.

schadenfreude is never going to go out of style

lol forks

i'm talking about the rave reviews that are all "he doesn't seem all that thrilled about being a superstar rapper ISN'T THAT FASCINATING?" xp

well, some of those reviews are playing the "this kid is a superstar with seemingly little effort and I'm not, but that's okay because he's telling us superstardom sucks" card (implicitly IMO)

I don't really care either way; the banality of your topics is immaterial if you sound great while rapping/singing about them.

yeah, totally. i just think it's funny how many people are selling his most banal ideas as his innovative fresh hook.

There have been a lot of "succeeded at the game/hustle and now it's wearing me out" types in hip-hop but I can't think of very many "grew up in the burbs and now my sense of privilege haunts me" types (btw I am not saying that is what Drake is, but it is certainly the way the reviews paint him)

ugh I suppose I should listen to his album if I really want to talk about him

this is the curse of the event album

totally

i couldnt make it thru one song tbh

royce can sorta pull these types of punchlines off in a way i don't hate

So can T.I.

yeah

i guess i'm basically just saying "i like it when awesome rappers rap than when shitty rappers rap"

poll

No.

so drake has now disowned grocery bag rap punchlines apparently, or something

Well, that flow has been killed by so many rappers. And, I never want to use that flow again in life. (Laughs) I wanted to take if off my album, because I was like, “I shut ‘em down. Onyx.” I hate the fact that that rhyme is still in there ... Me and Wayne found a dope way to do it. I don’t want to sound cocky, but the best way its been used was on “Forever.” Those lines just all individually make so much sense. They’re all punchlines. Then a bunch of rappers started doing it and using the most terrible references in the world. I don’t want to offend somebody…I hate that rappers picked that flow up. I wish they had left that for people that know how to use it. They go like “It’s a parade! MACY’S!”

drake + wayne - we invented teh punchline vol. 1

no no apparently it was jay sean

drake thinks a biiiiiiit too highly of himself but otherwise is extremely otm

lol @ drake shitting on ludacris

i wonder how he feels about "it's going down... BASEMENT"

kevin, calling drake otm there is like calling a serial killer who shows remorse during his trial "otm"

I think with it's a parade... macys is a nice way of calling out Luda for I blow em up.... ¡balloons!

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calling his "forever" verse dope is as offensive as racism to me