funky house sceptics, let me draw your attention to this

As in Dream in narrative-building mode rather than catch-cry mode?

My favourite of his current lyrics are:

1) She said 'Dream you're an arsehole...' etc.

2) Par for them/Omarion/We just laugh at them/WE JUST LAUGH AT THEM/AND THEN WE LAUGH AGAIN etc.

Which category would you put those in?

Yeah "24 Hours" is ace, kind of washes away the sour taste left by "Sequencer".

well yeah they're both geezerish, but tbh maybe it's just i felt acting out the chuckle on "laugh at them" every time wasnt bearing repetition in the same way rankin's do so forever lovably

in partic i was missing the other "par 4 them" one but i'd have to listen to that petchy again to recall the others

it's a par for them, it's a par for them
uh ohh! man are writing bars again
tell em tell em tell em
pass a pen
man are back in fashion like cardigans
it's hard for them, not to be jarred again
ride with me
don't get scarred again
keep telling them man music's in my genes
and i guess that it's just not a part of them, part of them
see we never part again
lyrics go over the chest and the heart again
we tell em nah that lyric never his
so i suggest you start again, start again
moving smart again, 2010
you could put me in the charts again

etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F2w8TMlTbQ

slowly grown to love this one

but tbh maybe it's just i felt acting out the chuckle on "laugh at them" every time wasnt bearing repetition in the same way rankin's do so forever lovably

Or indeed Shantie's loveable faux-surprise on "WHAT'S GWANING CUZ??"

it's a par for them, it's a par for them
uh ohh! man are writing bars again
tell em tell em tell em
pass a pen
man are back in fashion like cardigans
it's hard for them, not to be jarred again
ride with me
don't get scarred again
keep telling them man music's in my genes
and i guess that it's just not a part of them, part of them
see we never part again
lyrics go over the chest and the heart again
we tell em nah that lyric never his
so i suggest you start again, start again
moving smart again, 2010
you could put me in the charts again

<3 forever.

OMG I adore this Drake remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdRFqYopBRI

Absolutely love that stripe of funky tune that's like vaguely lethargic menacing bug-eyed 3am post-"Killer R&B-house - this, the Major Note$ remix of J-Will's "Deja Vu", the O.B. remix of Addictive's "Domino Effect"...

And you can download it here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/m0qdl6

That should be post-"Killer" R&B-house... as in Adamski/Seal's "Killer".

not quiiiite exactly what you're talking about perhaps but i love this eastwood 'right there' vocal number round the hour mark on the 12th june marcus - it gets a perfect prologue coming after lr groove's 'just believe' and carneo if that's any indication.

(lr groove in particular deserves merit for his stuff this year - just brilliantly well-crafted rollers. havent got a decent handle on eastwood's oevure yet but i hear his name a lot - if memory serves didn't he used to be a particularly boshing grime producer or summink...?)

Ha I was coming back here to talk about "Right Here" after listening to it last night... Massive tune! And more delicate than anything else I've heard from Eastwood (yeah he is or was a pretty lairy grime producer normally I think).

LR Groove seems to be king of the tribal cuts - "rollers" is a good word for this sound though, they do remind me of say DJ SS circa 1994.

that drake remix!

I know how good is it!

http://www.zshare.net/audio/77330247f37aa221/

here's one of those screamingly popular radio rips for that eastwood if anyone's... interesteddddd.

while i remember can i also just nominate fingaprint & tenneka's 'your body' for an awesome 2010 funky vocal commendation (why doesnt anyone play it more category). you can hear it first track on here:

http://www.mixcloud.com/djtrizzy/deep-funky-soulvol-2-summer-vibes/player/

http://www.mixcloud.com/wirelesssound/wireless-sound-100-funky-vol-2/

can also recommend this other mix for those still just too, too delicate for that ruff rugged radio raw uncut

Mr F your enthusiasam for this stuff makes me :D :D :D

I've really been digging that Champion promo mix. Petchy in general, he has to be the best funky DJ right now, its just pure good time vibes when he's on, I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNnCzQS_dQE :D, wish he'd make his way up north a bit so I could catch him live mind... and peeps like Lil Silva, Altered Natives and Ill Blu all get picked up for releases by labels. DVA is killing it too Natty is still gettin rinsed over here, plus this just dropped: http://soundcloud.com/becoming-real/fast-motion-dvas-hi-emotions-remix kind of epic and really mixable. I've been playin Shitta by Marcus Nasty & Bassboy quite a bit too I didn't expect a bassline producer to hook up with Marcus and make such an addictive lil gem. MC Creed's Generate prob by Esko is pretty cool too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpS67rFVL10. Annie Mac was repping that Donaeo track 'I'm Fly' on Radio One from some massive live event with loads of kids the other day when I was listening in my car on the way to somewhere it was pretty cool they seemed to dig it.

rinse got a radio license today after 16 years as a pirate

Can I assume you all have just not bothered to download the Drake remix from the link I posted above, or that you are crazy in not liking it much??

It's a pretty great track, though I think I prefer the remix by Jammy.

i wasn't able to d/l mp3s in barcelona, but i hate drake too much to be receptive of even remixes, unless they seriously REMOVE HIM completely (from LIFE preferably)

roska was wicked at sónar btw, so weird and good to see him playing on such a massive stage. he played a really housey set that seemed to alternate between sweeter, soulful sounds and anthems, and the dryer, percussive stuff that focuses on odd rhythms that's beloved of tim (and that reminds me most, weirdly, of dudes like untold and ramadanman in its relentless focus on the beats over, well, anything else). and then he played a blend of "axel f" and "pon de floor".

ms dynamite's "get low" was THE anthem of the festival btw.

The Ramadanman resemblance in particular isn't that surprising - even his dubstep stuff often resembles funky ("Blimey" is a good example of this) while "Wad" is still the best dubstep-producer-attempts-funky-track ever.

But yeah a lot of the stuff I consider "anthems" this year (Devine Collective's "House Girls 6", Emvee's "Windrush Riddim", Aramac's "Hurt Inside", Naughty Raver's "Drama", Smooth Kriminal's "Stop Dat", the Andy J & S-Tee remix of "Reign", all the Marcus Nasty/Bassboy tunes, Undisputed's "Sunglasses" carrying over from last year, all of LR Groove's best tracks) are basically just "rollers" in the old jungle circa 1994 sense (see discussion with r|t|c upthread re LR Groove's "rollers").

In a lot of ways it's this stuff that is destined to be forgotten in the future, in much the same way that similar tracks were in the context of 2-step. Ultimately people remember vocal anthems of MC-driven tracks whether they approve of them or not, but a lot of listeners require a certain auteur-appreciation-consensus to really get behind rollers in any specific sense (rather than them just soundtracking a night out). Roska himself has, relatively speaking, benefited from this insofar as his own facility with this form allows him to act as a kind of focal point for people's appreciation of this sound (though obv a lot of Roska's productions like "I Need It" or "Wonderful Day" etc don't fit this mould at all).

he played a really housey set that seemed to alternate between sweeter, soulful sounds and anthems, and the dryer, percussive stuff that focuses on odd rhythms that's beloved of tim (and that reminds me most, weirdly, of dudes like untold and ramadanman in its relentless focus on the beats over, well, anything else). and then he played a blend of "axel f" and "pon de floor".

This sounds basically like "what you'd want" from a uk funky set generally (and I mean "you" as in I/we rather than as in "lex"). Roska's a pretty good DJ IMO.

yeah it was def what i wanted at the time, though i respond to that dry, bare-bones percussiveness a lot better outside of a uk funky context -one ramadanman set at plastic people a while back in particular blew my mind because there was so much space and so many intricate rhythms - but that's a context i was expecting a certain degree of aridity in anyway, and not so much sexiness or soulfulness. that's where i could really appreciate a track like "squark".

as a dj roska's ideally placed to bring them into a funky context i guess, given his more melodic and textural side. i'm not sure i'd really miss the perc-only stuff - they were the sections of the set where people's dancing slowed to a vague shuffle and where you started to worry that some people might wander off somewhere else.

Oh if you're talking about "Squark" kinda stuff that's not really what I mean.

I mean, "Get Low" before it was "Get Low" (when it was "Crackish") is basically the kind of thing I mean when I think of percussive uk funky jamz.

if you live in london you can go and see marcus and petchy on the same night, should be nice. if you dont like marcus nasty and petchy then what you doing on this thread?

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pon reflection i don't think i would extended the rollers term as far as tim's done - which isn't to say the tracks he's picked don't ever roll per se but only that bona fide rollers ought (imo) to be those tracks that seem to exalt in their own pure rollage - there should be a kinda compulsive/meditative tunnel vision vibe to them, unperturbed by any jacking or stabbing or grooving or moshing or whatever. (chief recent example beyond the lr grooves - hardhouse banton's 'colonel', which never fails to bring to mind a runaway minecart on an underground railroad or something).

i won't lie that i'm also just trying to give a swerve to the unrewarding-feeling leaden dnb baggage of the term. perhaps the distinction should be... "tracky"?

in other news (that people probably already know) maxsin the other week said there's a funkystepz ep coming out soon with 'malibu', 'leave with you', 'trinity hill', and maybe a tune called 'sweet love' on it.

also the video to the donaeo's out but the track sounds too slow on it to do much out-of-context damage imo - like, you're not supposed to have enough time to think about it.

ooh and the new marcus set is recorded tapepack style live from zante with a mc - v enjoyable change of pace

would luv 2 pull the pin and lob this into a funky set

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odUFpK9PnUQ

KABOOM

ugh this new marcus set (30/6) is AAAAARD

http://relay.exequo.org/rinsefm/podcast/MarcusNasty300610.mp3

not too much vocals - just 2hrs of pure tribal madness mixxed tight as a drum

honestly its a shame i'm idealogically opposed to putting radio sets etc on album end of year lists and lolz never do them anyway cos this set would go str8 to the t-o-p, serious

This set is awesome. I don't know if I've ever heard Marcus mix so quickly from one track to the next again and again and again. Some of the blends are inspired, e.g. Drew Austin's Drake remix into "Inflation".

BTW, I was able to ID the first track from the June 9 Marcus Nasty set.. it's "It's What You Do" by the Fives: http://soundcloud.com/the-fives/its-what-you-do

sweet thnx rtc

ALSO Donae'o's "So Fly" ---> Geeneus' "Crackish" = ridiculously good transition.

One weird thing about this set being so tribalistic and instrumental is that it reminds me more than usual of certain types of minimal, like stuff that Kindisch might have put out circa 2007.

course you then find yourself bowled over by what's left maximalist in there - the goofyness of devine's 'eyes on you' and the mj riddim retrospectively adopting like an old bollywood nth-generation vhs vibe, or yeah that amazing section with the drake remix deliquescing into treble ullulaion, into 'inflation', into lil silva 'night skanker', pincered by the brazilian madness of the havana cultura remix and whatever that dutty new altered natives one is [id plz]... haha and that spyro mix of modjo 'lady' (!!) later on..... mm anyway

i tried tracklisting this set to test how bad i still am at remembering the names of all these tribal riddims and true enough got bored of pressing the ? key, especially for the last hour - would be an awesome funky document though

loving eastwood's 'soft touch' too, purely cos of the name - what else would you call a giant terrifying electrical power thrum after all

"Eyes On You" really is ridiculous.

Actually I vote we see this through, work as a team, us and you:

0:00: ??? It's the famous lost track from that November 2008 set
2:10: ??? Feel like I should know this vocal tune
4:35: ???
5:10: ??? Possibly a continuation of the previous track
6:25: Devine Collective - Eyes On You
8:06: ??? Classic though obv
10:05: Devine Collective - Thriller Refix
11:20: J Labelz - Call Me - some not terribly successful remix
12:30: ??? BIG though
15:18: ??? Hear this vocal tune lots though
17:00: Hardhouse Banton - Reign (Dumplin Remix)
20:07: If I'm not mistaken, it's the Miss Fire with the one Sticky
22:00: Marcus Nasty & Bassboy - Stamp (I think?)
23:22: ???
25:20: ??? Ashamed at not knowing this
27:25: ??? Some kind of "Gabryelle" bite

Will do more later.

Oh duh 15:18 is Eastwood's "Right There".

sexy lady be my queen!!!!!!!

not sure 11:20 is j labelz related besides subject matter. 12:30 is a new lr groove i am pretty sure. 20:07 is barber bizzle ft jj soul 'got that something'. marcus nasty / bassboy is called 'drip' i think but i forget

The track that's mixed out of the vocal tune from 2:10 and then through 4:35/5:10 is Elevated Levels by Roska

27:25: - ? feel this could be crazy cousinz or else yeah gabryelle refix
29:00: - ?
29:40: - ?
33:30: drake - find your love (drew austin remix)
34:45: crazy cousinz - inflation
37:45: havana cultura - chekere (seji remix)
39:17: lil silva - night skanker
42:04: altered natives - ??? sick!
47:30: - ?
49:50: supaneer - congo natty? forget how it goes
51:43: - ?
52:55: eastwood - soft touch
54:22: - ?
55:20: modjo - lady (spyro refix)
56:52: - ?
59:09: mj cole - volcano riddim
60:39: lr groove - just believe
61:45: altered natives - rass out

(several of those -?s are marcus standards i'm sure ppl will know)

23:22 could be scratcha dva based on sound and shout-out

haha i taped the last hour of tonights set (featuring new dubs + shantie!) and am already instantly bored of last week's extravagangsta - <3 you funky

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f14/snouts/homerdonuts.gif

42:04: altered natives - ??? sick!

Yes this took my head off on first listen!

radio rip of the new roll deep/ill blu remix if anyone's interested

http://www.zshare.net/audio/781028469de58db3/

overwhelming martial madness once again

I would be quite happy for Ill Blu to go through the rest of his career only remixing pop grime tracks.

42:04: altered natives - ??? sick!

It looks like this was played on Marcus Nasty's show yesterday evening as well... maybe 10-11 minutes in? It sounds like it's ID'd as "Hit not Miss"

yeah 17 minutes - i wager "this one hit not miss" is a classic type shantieism though

how good does shants sound on that whole floaty section immediately after it btw, got me feeling emotional for a sec