most pathetic excuse for wordplay in Young Money's "Bedrock"

anyway i think it's a great song

based on what you said i thought i'd like it but i wasn't feeling it at all, and i love "best i ever had" and some other drake rnb joints

cant believe there was a riot at a fucking drake concert

in nyc i sure can

i mean i "can" believe it i just dont want to

I think also there's a discernible difference in the warmth of "Find Your Love" and anything from 808s. The production on 808s (which I love, by the way: Kanye finally learns how to make drums that aren't paper-thin [then again, Graduation was pretty good for that too]) conveyed a sterile emptiness really well, which made since 'cause Kanye was heartbroken at the time, etc etc. "Find Your Love" is much warmer, there are even like live instruments, and it's just more like the purple-tinged glow after a thunderston, sort of hopeful and shit. Drake isn't the bitter cynic that Kanye is about love either (on this song, at least); he thinks that if he puts all his heart in it things will work out. Kanye knows they won't. The warmer production fits Drake's sentiment.

http://cdn.nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/drake-thankmelater-booklet-2-thank-yous.jpg

these liner notes are absurd, especially when it gets to the part where he's thanking all these indie artists like Neon Indian, Passion Pit, The xx, and Grizzly Bear obv but then sprinkled in will be like "3 6 Mafia" and Z-ro

and michael rappaport

re "find your love" & it's 808s-ness

"[Kanye] had scratch references. I think the hook was in place"
― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:19 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

doesn't say anything about that being during the making of 808s, i'm guessing it was like a year or so after the album was cut.

"Find Your Love" has that kinda whiny synth sound from "Do U" and I love that sound.

http://twitter.com/RealTalibKweli/statuses/16248492624

*smh*

people, u gettin hoodwinked

what an asshole

Submissions for the Rolling "..._______" thread:

It would seem that, on the leaked Dr. Dre/Jay-Z track "Under Pressure," Jay-Z says the following:

"I should be ducking these clubs... TIGER WOODS"

talib talib talib, you are making me forget black star :(

that new dre/jay track is garbage

http://twitter.com/RealTalibKweli/status/15579007853

making friends!

Gucci http://www.apples4theteacher.com/images/icons/states/maine.gif

i think the problem with a lot of the beatdown drake reviews is they try to take dude down on some highfalutin artistic merit shit, when really it's like: his raps are bad and don't sound good. like, my review would just be "my sister is currently listening to thank me later: the timbre and tones of his voice are pretty unpleasant." lol u mad is the only real necessary rebuttal to anyone dumb enough to stan for this.

Eminem:

Do you think rap has peaked creatively?
No. Hip-hop right now — there are certain artists who put hip-hop in a good state.There are a lot of talented people, and there’s a lot of young talent coming up, like B.o.B, Jay Electronica, Lupe Fiasco and Drake.

two people in that list are rappers

I know rap is where you stan for whoever's famous because that's where the money is. Props for Andre 3000 for telling Drake to fuck himself

i think the problem with a lot of the beatdown drake reviews is they try to take dude down on some highfalutin artistic merit shit, when really it's like: his raps are bad and don't sound good. like, my review would just be "my sister is currently listening to thank me later: the timbre and tones of his voice are pretty unpleasant." lol u mad is the only real necessary rebuttal to anyone dumb enough to stan for this.

― them goons you rock, make em sb (samosa gibreel), Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:54 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

I'm not stanning for the album -- I gave it 3.5 stars in my review -- but I think it's quite good. I like the timbre and tone of Drake's voice, particularly when he's singing, as his voice can sound a little whiny when he raps. But you know what? His raps sound good. Yeah the lyrics aren't the best ever, but they're hella fun to rap along with, and that counts for a lot.

the problem with Drake's voice is that it sounds a lot like Young Berg's voice.

er Yung i guess

I don't remember Yung Berg being as annoying.

If you mean a less annoying version of Yung Berg, then I'd agree to an extent.

But you know what? His raps sound good. Yeah the lyrics aren't the best ever, but they're hella fun to rap along with, and that counts for a lot.

― rennavate, Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:51 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not really finding much of this "fun" you speak of. and i have spend a lot of my life listening to, like, teenagers rap on jerk songs, which to me is often fun despite bad-ish lyrics.

Yeah, a huge part of my problem with Drake is not even that he writes terrible lyrics, but that (as a rapper, at least) he sucks all the air out of everything.

i'm not really finding much of this "fun" you speak of. and i have spend a lot of my life listening to, like, teenagers rap on jerk songs, which to me is often fun despite bad-ish lyrics.

― samosa gibreel, Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:07 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

I don't necessarily mean the songs are "fun" themselves, but rather they are fun to rap along with. Not quite the same thing, although I might be splitting hairs.

I agree that Drake doesn't sound like he's having fun, and he SHOULD BE HAVING FUN right now. You're right, the New Boyz at least sound like they are having fun.

rap doesn't have to be fun, guys

it's really not a legit criticism

it's much more fun to rap along to cartoon nicki minaj raps, if i'm gonna force myself to enjoy rap on the radio that is garbage

Of course it doesn't, but I don't think we're arguing it does. It's not like I'm gonna listen to The Infamous and go, "Damn, I wish Prodigy and Havoc sounded happier!"

his voice is hella annoying

to be clear i said not good-sounding was the most important thing to me, not fun was just a response to rennavate's post

i think the problem with a lot of the beatdown drake reviews is they try to take dude down on some highfalutin artistic merit shit, when really it's like: his raps are bad and don't sound good.

this is some omar little style "lol the notion of criticism!" shit -- there's nothing wrong with treating drake as a highfalutin artist and criticizing him accordingly

well yeah to an extent it's worth discussing seriously, and i thought your old drake post was good, but he's right that there's a critical mass of anti-drake (and pro-drake) articles this week and even having picked a side both are pretty tiresome to me at the moment

well, i mean obv there's a deluge of opinions right at the moment, but it is an event album

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/jimmy-and-me/Content?oid=4277699

jordan imo i'd say your drake takedown is the most effective of those i've read, because it's the least highfalutin and mostly focuses on deconstructing what is so bad about his raps, and thus expresses what i feel is the actual main bad thing about him as an artist. many of the album reviews going around, and it's like you would have to engage with his lyrics on an unnecessarily profound level to get shit like

Seemingly significant personal events like his parents' divorce, his grandmother's move to a nursing home or his girlfriend's abortion are treated as if Drake were the only one on earth to ever experience such trauma. There's no depth or exploration of these occurrences, either; they're simply noted and then brushed to the side.

shit like this feels unnecessary to me because his most heinous offence is something much simpler, albeit more significant.

I sort of really want to write about the fact that Drake is CANADIAN, too. How the fuck is a CANADIAN the most buzzed about rapper right now? (Of course, him being most buzzed about is contentious, I know). It's a pretty big deal; Drake has already pretty much become the biggest Canadian rapper of all time... there's an interesting analysis there waiting to be done, think.

Seemingly significant personal events like his parents' divorce, his grandmother's move to a nursing home or his girlfriend's abortion are treated as if Drake were the only one on earth to ever experience such trauma. There's no depth or exploration of these occurrences, either; they're simply noted and then brushed to the side.

yeah this is an affliction of thinking that rap has to be about "something"

I dunno about that. I think the problem being highlighted there is that he is trying to say "something", but has nothing to say about the "something".

he doesn't have to be the most perceptive and substantial rapper, it could at least be witty or cool. i'm not saying critics who try and take down drake for being vacuous are wrong because 'hey it's rap music', but to me that's peeling back layers of something way uglier and more important. like, calling a dude out on having sub par jay leno monologue raps is more cutting and meaningful to me than how he doesn't have anything insightful to say about his girlfriend's abortion. it's okay to knock him for both, but i think the focus should be on the former.

The greater point is that he's not successful at either of these things.

http://www.myimgs.net/images/wsdc.jpg

yeah this is an affliction of thinking that rap has to be about "something"

― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what rap that is good isnt about 'something'

mentioning Pill proves my point btw