most pathetic excuse for wordplay in Young Money's "Bedrock"

but is brisco's delivery laser-guided enough to turn those into automatic catch phrases??

I really tried to do a song with Andre 3000, but I think it was meant for my second album. Dre is one of those people that needs you to do a little more. He’s one of those people that believe in his craft so much that he needs you to do more than just be over hyped or just famous. In his mind, I have to prove myself and the truth is, I do. That’s just being real. I have a lot of work to do, so I actually respect him for that. I think on the second album I’ll probably only have two features. I have a few people in mind and Dre probably will be one of them.

http://rapradar.com/2010/06/15/drake-on-denied-andre-3000-feature/

all is forgiven

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127834096

It's the lynchpin of the Drake marketing model, in which important rappers introduce listeners to the next important rapper as he raps about how important he is.

but is brisco's delivery laser-guided enough to turn those into automatic catch phrases??

― killahpriest (/\/K/\/\), Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:47 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

Hahahahahahaha.

i was impressed by noz listening to some of the songs on the album 15+ times before reviewing it

my favorite thing that he's ever written about drake, is this:

punchlines like "I really can't complain, everything's kosher/ Two thumbs up, Ebert and Roeper" may not be terribly complex, but Drake's laser-guided delivery turns them into automatic catch-phrases.

which, as i pointed out on so many shrimp, makes no sense, because EBERT AND ROEPER TURNED THE PHRASE INTO AN AUTOMATIC CATCH PHRASE, HENCE THE WHOLE FREAKIN REFERENCE

― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 16 June 2010 02:41 (7 hours ago)

rip gene siskel
― max, Saturday, 6 March 2010 04:42 (3 months ago)

so i guess no one alerted ebert back when bloodhound gang used his name as a punchline?
― jizzchin (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 March 2010 08:58 (3 months ago)

probably because Siskel's name got dropped first....
― Ballistic, Monday, 8 March 2010 09:02 (3 months ago)

re "find your love" & it's 808s-ness

"[Kanye] had scratch references. I think the hook was in place"

the beat is almost more like a dancehall riddim tbh (there's another beat on the album that rips off that riddim that serani did "no games" over) but those "hey, hey, hey"s are cribbed pretty much wholly from 808s & i think in the context of drake as an artist it's kind of hard not to connect the two

anyway i think it's a great song

based on what you said i thought i'd like it but i wasn't feeling it at all, and i love "best i ever had" and some other drake rnb joints

cant believe there was a riot at a fucking drake concert

in nyc i sure can

i mean i "can" believe it i just dont want to

I think also there's a discernible difference in the warmth of "Find Your Love" and anything from 808s. The production on 808s (which I love, by the way: Kanye finally learns how to make drums that aren't paper-thin [then again, Graduation was pretty good for that too]) conveyed a sterile emptiness really well, which made since 'cause Kanye was heartbroken at the time, etc etc. "Find Your Love" is much warmer, there are even like live instruments, and it's just more like the purple-tinged glow after a thunderston, sort of hopeful and shit. Drake isn't the bitter cynic that Kanye is about love either (on this song, at least); he thinks that if he puts all his heart in it things will work out. Kanye knows they won't. The warmer production fits Drake's sentiment.

http://cdn.nahright.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/drake-thankmelater-booklet-2-thank-yous.jpg

these liner notes are absurd, especially when it gets to the part where he's thanking all these indie artists like Neon Indian, Passion Pit, The xx, and Grizzly Bear obv but then sprinkled in will be like "3 6 Mafia" and Z-ro

and michael rappaport

re "find your love" & it's 808s-ness

"[Kanye] had scratch references. I think the hook was in place"
― Youve Beenexposed (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:19 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

doesn't say anything about that being during the making of 808s, i'm guessing it was like a year or so after the album was cut.

"Find Your Love" has that kinda whiny synth sound from "Do U" and I love that sound.

http://twitter.com/RealTalibKweli/statuses/16248492624

*smh*

people, u gettin hoodwinked

what an asshole

Submissions for the Rolling "..._______" thread:

It would seem that, on the leaked Dr. Dre/Jay-Z track "Under Pressure," Jay-Z says the following:

"I should be ducking these clubs... TIGER WOODS"

talib talib talib, you are making me forget black star :(

that new dre/jay track is garbage

http://twitter.com/RealTalibKweli/status/15579007853

making friends!

Gucci http://www.apples4theteacher.com/images/icons/states/maine.gif

i think the problem with a lot of the beatdown drake reviews is they try to take dude down on some highfalutin artistic merit shit, when really it's like: his raps are bad and don't sound good. like, my review would just be "my sister is currently listening to thank me later: the timbre and tones of his voice are pretty unpleasant." lol u mad is the only real necessary rebuttal to anyone dumb enough to stan for this.

Eminem:

Do you think rap has peaked creatively?
No. Hip-hop right now — there are certain artists who put hip-hop in a good state.There are a lot of talented people, and there’s a lot of young talent coming up, like B.o.B, Jay Electronica, Lupe Fiasco and Drake.

two people in that list are rappers

I know rap is where you stan for whoever's famous because that's where the money is. Props for Andre 3000 for telling Drake to fuck himself

i think the problem with a lot of the beatdown drake reviews is they try to take dude down on some highfalutin artistic merit shit, when really it's like: his raps are bad and don't sound good. like, my review would just be "my sister is currently listening to thank me later: the timbre and tones of his voice are pretty unpleasant." lol u mad is the only real necessary rebuttal to anyone dumb enough to stan for this.

― them goons you rock, make em sb (samosa gibreel), Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:54 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark

I'm not stanning for the album -- I gave it 3.5 stars in my review -- but I think it's quite good. I like the timbre and tone of Drake's voice, particularly when he's singing, as his voice can sound a little whiny when he raps. But you know what? His raps sound good. Yeah the lyrics aren't the best ever, but they're hella fun to rap along with, and that counts for a lot.

the problem with Drake's voice is that it sounds a lot like Young Berg's voice.

er Yung i guess

I don't remember Yung Berg being as annoying.

If you mean a less annoying version of Yung Berg, then I'd agree to an extent.

But you know what? His raps sound good. Yeah the lyrics aren't the best ever, but they're hella fun to rap along with, and that counts for a lot.

― rennavate, Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:51 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm not really finding much of this "fun" you speak of. and i have spend a lot of my life listening to, like, teenagers rap on jerk songs, which to me is often fun despite bad-ish lyrics.

Yeah, a huge part of my problem with Drake is not even that he writes terrible lyrics, but that (as a rapper, at least) he sucks all the air out of everything.

i'm not really finding much of this "fun" you speak of. and i have spend a lot of my life listening to, like, teenagers rap on jerk songs, which to me is often fun despite bad-ish lyrics.

― samosa gibreel, Thursday, June 17, 2010 6:07 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark

I don't necessarily mean the songs are "fun" themselves, but rather they are fun to rap along with. Not quite the same thing, although I might be splitting hairs.

I agree that Drake doesn't sound like he's having fun, and he SHOULD BE HAVING FUN right now. You're right, the New Boyz at least sound like they are having fun.

rap doesn't have to be fun, guys

it's really not a legit criticism

it's much more fun to rap along to cartoon nicki minaj raps, if i'm gonna force myself to enjoy rap on the radio that is garbage

Of course it doesn't, but I don't think we're arguing it does. It's not like I'm gonna listen to The Infamous and go, "Damn, I wish Prodigy and Havoc sounded happier!"

his voice is hella annoying

to be clear i said not good-sounding was the most important thing to me, not fun was just a response to rennavate's post

i think the problem with a lot of the beatdown drake reviews is they try to take dude down on some highfalutin artistic merit shit, when really it's like: his raps are bad and don't sound good.

this is some omar little style "lol the notion of criticism!" shit -- there's nothing wrong with treating drake as a highfalutin artist and criticizing him accordingly

well yeah to an extent it's worth discussing seriously, and i thought your old drake post was good, but he's right that there's a critical mass of anti-drake (and pro-drake) articles this week and even having picked a side both are pretty tiresome to me at the moment

well, i mean obv there's a deluge of opinions right at the moment, but it is an event album

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/jimmy-and-me/Content?oid=4277699