most pathetic excuse for wordplay in Young Money's "Bedrock"

But even when this Romeo starts tossing dollar bills at a strip club on "Miss Me", his ogling is somehow lonely and level: "I don't judge her but I could never love her/ 'Cause to her I'm just a rapper and soon she'll have met another."

ah if only drake could find a stripper that didn't objectify him

"While all my closest friends out partyin'/ I'm just here makin' the music that they party to," he shrugs on "Light Up". Which all seems very Boy Who Cried Penthouse Suite except that Drake manages to make his plight tugging and relatable thanks to a potent mix of empathy, candidness, and grandeur.

no he doesn't, at least not when you pull shit out of context (and I highly doubt that in context it's any more sympathetic either; it's not like Kanye's "Welcome To Heartbreak" that are full of similar douchebaggery but totals up to "I have all of this shit and still suspect I'm a superficial fraud")

his triangulation of sensitive and braggin' tropes is so dull and plodding idk how a critic can praise it, nor how guys can relate & girls find it dreamy, since the personality painted is smirking sneaky hypocritical douchebag.

ugh "are" should be "is"; point being Kanye > Drake, no matter how much Kanye may suck at times

And, largely thanks to sonic co-conspirators Noah "40" Shebib and Boi-1da, Thank Me Later is held together by misty keyboards and dank drums that recall everyone from Sade to Boards of Canada to Massive Attack to the xx (who are thanked in the record's liner notes).

attn Lex: aside from the Degrassi thing, here's the other reason why dude spooged all over this album

omg I just got to the T.I. part

lolololololol

Drake is the guy you get drinks with who talks about himself for a few hours-- if you're lucky, he might ask you for advice on one or two things. But this is OK because Drake's stories are better than yours. Like the one about how Lil Wayne befriended and signed him at the height of Weezy's powers. Or how he got with Rihanna last year. Or that time he flashed from a Toronto has-been to a top-flight hit maker off the strength of a self-released mixtape. Of course, there's the classic about sipping a few too many glasses of Ace of Spades and asking Nicki Minaj to marry him. Sounds like a sweet existence.

This is a very telling paragraph.

― da croupier, Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:16 AM (20 minutes ago)

this is like when people defend dane cook

just as Drake's dramatically exposed selfishness is unique to hip-hop

HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD AN EMCEE BEFORE

ahahahahaha

idk how a critic can praise it, nor how guys can relate & girls find it dreamy, since the personality painted is smirking sneaky hypocritical douchebag.

pretty sure the ladies find drake dreamy for the same reason they found rick springfield dreamy. and as for why guys want to identify with a smirking sneaky hypocritical douchebag, well...

grandeur

GRANDEUR?

are you fucking shitting me. only grandeur drake's familiar with is the empty void where wit and humour and substance and likability should be on this record

naw he's saying selfishness is found in hip hop more than elsewhere

ha okay I misread that bit that made me incensed but the part that follows which was quoted upthread that basically says "woe is Drake, he grew up a television star in suburbia" makes the part I yelled about completely incomprehensible; pretty sure that whining about being privileged is neither unique to hip-hop nor pervasive through hip-hop

you guys are making me want to actually read the review instead of just watch people freak out about the number score on other msg boards

well between excerpts the entire thing is pretty much posted on this thread

i didn't think pfork still had reviews as soul-baring as this one

Drake's stories are better than yours

i feel sorry for ryan dombal suddenly

damn right, they're better than yours(, Ryan)

haha tempted to run with the Rick Springfield 2k10 line to describe Drake but afraid that would be unfair to "Jessie's Girl"

well in 2010 famous friends are worth more than having at least one great song

this is seriously some bullshit

like people can relate to drake because hes not from the hood or hes been on tv since he was a kid?

wonder what Ryan would have given He's The DJ I'm The Rapper back in the day, or was it too low on grandeur

is it okay if i just hate this album without listening to it and save myself some time? Agreed?

agreed. did the same thing with the blueprint 3 and it worked out great

wonder what Ryan would have given He's The DJ I'm The Rapper back in the day, or was it too low on grandeur

well the big difference is that He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper actually WAS a wholly relatable album of suburban-friendly narrative rather than ungrateful, repellent narcissism, so likely it would have been dismissed for being fake and cheesy

haha totally, which is kinda what i meant by "low on grandeur"

otm otm otm xp

He's The DJ I'm The Rapper is also A FUCKING RAP ALBUM

I'm sure Drake's is a rap album, but in the sense Toto IV is a rock album

fuck lil wayne for this basically

not satisfied with falling off after the carter iii he decided to take the whole rap game with him

aw fuck, I'm gonna listen to this just so that i can be justified in my frustration with this fuckin guy but only once, i will ONLY LISTEN ONCE and then he has to leave me alone

yeah maybe i'll listen to this just so i can be mad about it.

not satisfied with falling off after the carter iii he decided to take the whole rap game with him

― hoes on my dick cos my groceries bagged (tpp), Tuesday, June 15, 2010 3:06 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^otm

have no problem panning this without listening to it...slavoj zizek

not really sure wtf this world has come to tbh

lmao http://tombreihan.tumblr.com/post/701262542/youre-the-guy-who-reviewed-that-drake-album-ryan

shipz just retweeted someone claiming hating on drake is the equiv of hating on justin t circa justified, which works precisely up to the point that you listen to their music, so i did a smh and clicked on it to see who it was and it was the washington post's lead critic ;_; the weak critical game possibly distresses me more than the weakness of whatever game drake thinks he's playing.

though i did get a slightly confrontational tweet from some girl asking what kind of music DID i like then if not drake, and i seem to have got her into both lady leshurr and yelawolf! some good has come of this!

i like CR as a critic up to a point, just when he's wrong i'm like oh fuck no

in the -ve column, i have received FIVE emails from drake's uk pr in the past two days :(

xp i'm not really familiar w/him at all

i can't remember who said this, but in some thread somebody said the problem with drake and wayne and nicki, and this type of punchlines in general is that the old school dudes used to deliver killer, amazing punchlines in this cool-ass, deadpan manner as if it was nothing but a thing, whereas this type of rhyming delivers super stupid and lame punchlines as if they were so fucking amazing

it's the stupidity coupled with the smug self regard* that i can't handle

*and maybe this part of it is jay's fault

Chris Richards is one of the few music writers out there I really dig; he seems pretty genuinely open-minded and enthusiastic about stuff.

the problem is that Drake is a shitty rapper.

xp i don't think that's really limited to old school dudes, more just any rappers who don't happen to be these shitheads

yeah maybe yr right, but that got at the thing that irritates me so much about it

for peeps that don't go to Doc Funk

http://docfunk.blogspot.com/2010/06/deep-thoughts-on-drakes-thank-me-later.html

looool

heh

tbh you could do this kind of thing to a lot of good rappers too and it would still be funny.

its been said many times but the difference with drake is how he and others present him and OMG NEXT LEVEL SHIT