Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

it was easily the second best thing Rusty wrote for the show, but suffered awfully from his usual lack of actually thinking through his scenarios. the character stakes were really unearned, and the peril fell apart internally several times, IIRC starting from him wanting us to be unsettled by them first spotting something black and shadowing leaping about in the distance, and then expecting us to be freaked out by something invisible attacking them.

haven't ever rewatched it though, so I may not rc.

i too loved the guy who played Van Gogh
this ep was really not very well written though
v excited abt new torchwood omg

Yeah, if the Van Gogh actor hadn't been as good as he was you'd really see the seams in this one. Never seen Torchwood but given all the love here for it I'll check into it.

Yeah, if the Van Gogh actor hadn't been as good as he was you'd really see the seams in this one. Never seen Torchwood but given all the love here for it I'll check into it.
--Brakhage

Torchwood S2 is the one to watch. S1 is quite patchy, and you need to know a lot of the background for Children of Earth to have the impact it deserves.

S1 is mostly very bad. The first episode and maybe the last couple of episodes are worth watching.

I am bizarrely fond of Countrycide from S1, and the PJ Hammond episode isn't awful either (which from memory has some important Jack arc stuff in it).

I liked Random Shoes and Out of Time from the first series. Everything from They Keep Killing Suzie onwards is worth a watch, really.

^sounds about right. There are a few decent episodes in the first series - it was just barely enough to keep me hooked enough to do S2, which felt a lot better as a whole. "Countrycide" made me want to throw a shoe at someone, though.

Cyberwoman in S1 was so bad that my entire cru stopped watching Torchwood for ever (except that I got fr33 pr3v!ew DVDs of CoE [six months after it came out in the shops])

i thought Children of Earth was risky and interesting and i mostly enjoyed it, but there were some noticeable writing/structural issues. i don't know, i say "structural issues" but i guess i really mean "why does Torchwood have to be so ridiculously stupid and unprepared in order to move the plot along?"

see also "Countrycide," where an immortal man and a mortal woman are walking into a potential gunfight, and the mortal woman is sent in first just so she can got shot and have sexual tension with her doctor.

Yeah, Cyberwoman was where I was going to chuck it. I'm glad I didn't - S2 was really good, especially when SPOILERS Owen turned into an emo zombie END SPOILERS

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hahahaha WHUT?

the japes we get up to in this house let me tell you

That's awesome!!

Inside doctor looks like he's doing Amy Pond-dancing or kung fu moves.
Outside doctor looks v sad

He's on the outside looking in. :(

Hmm.

Why was a regular spaceship causing time dilation?
Where did The Doctor's earpiece come from?
Why did it look pre-credits like it was all an accident, then look like it was planned, then like it was an accident again?
Why was there a single storey building at the end of a terrace (a hint about how they're going to explain Amy's childhood home having one more floor inside than outside)?
Also lol football and James Corden just before England's first game of the World Cup, which the BBC didn't get, which is followed by a James Corden show. Coincidence, much?

On the plus side, loved the giant Pertwee gadget.

> Why was a regular spaceship causing time dilation?

It was a proto-TARDIS, was it not? Bigger on the inside, similar console layout? Maybe Ace was experimenting…

I quite liked that even though I'm not entirely sure why the power of WUV was enough to shortcircuit the whatever-it-was.

Huey Lewis had it all figured out.

That was pretty good! The Doctor's air-kissing was hilarious.

Was there something significant abt that weird portrait in the hall?

Wasn't it Charlie Caroli?

It looked like a Nick Cave /William Shakespeare mashup

Xpost: otm Aldo! I think you're right.

Loved it! Wanted to know more about the proto-TARDIS, though: whose was it?

"Ah, Mr Jourgenson, will you hold, please? I need to eat a biscuit."

The headbutt mindmeld was hysterical

they really have put more references to previous doctors in this series than the entire rest of the run since 2005, love it though!

Definitely a good thing

yeah i wanna say w/all the hilarious parts (headbutt mindmeld, air kissing, eating a biscuit, being completely oblivious to awkward social interactions, it's modern art society is terrible) this was yet another fantastic non-plot focusing showcase for Smith as the Doctor, i'm pretty much sold on this guy as being his own great incarnation at this point

Otm. This was the ep where it really hit me how well Smith inhabits this Doctor.

Oh and can I go a little silly over Doctor in a towel? Cor blimey.

Tumblr is your friend.

:D

Yeah, Matt Smith is killing as the Doctor, he just needs a new companion.

The Doctor needs to shower?

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Clearly, the SAD is shaped to resemble the crack.

No, it's the other way up.

This was fucking ace, maybe even slightly better than The Eleventh Hour. Two milliseconds of awful Rustyisms (power of wuv, obv, & it's not enough for the building to explode and kill some people - no the entire SOLAR SYSTEM must be in peril... for two seconds of cheap drama. but even the power of wuv was actually set up to make story sense!), loved everything else.

Hope they explain why the ship was all TARDISy later, and Smith is in my top three Doctors of all time. Loved his sting before the credits here, as in Amy's Choice.

Oh, what did he say pre-credits after the bit about this not being some moon? "I think I see a..." mumble mumble Britishes speak up pls.

when we saw the crack at the end it glowed, does that mean it's going to erase the happy couple like rory? embarrassingly i'm invested enough in their relationship to be concerned.

the crack always glows

Yeah, but now it's started to open up because Amy has seen the ring.

Liked this a lot: 'is he a dealer?'

Next week fun times:

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Oh, and now we know the fanwanky tossed in reference to an old alium that's there just for the spotters - Drahvins mentined in the Next Time clip.

Strangely enough I was fine with Corden but couldn't get over Daisy Haggard as every time I saw her was reminded of The Persuasionists.

I really liked Daisy Haggard (and think it would be hilarious to get her to darken her hair to play a satirical Sam Cameron).

srsly who the hell was building a TARDIS, and how and why? the Doctor didn't seem too bothered about these questions at the end (as with the silence in Venice or indeed the TARDIS fragment).

Sontaran ship in the next week trailer? hmm

I liked how the Doctor was all weird and alien in this one.

when he pulled the shower curtain back with wet hair he never looked more like chris morris.

i just had a dream about a 12th Doctor - looked a lot like the guy in Star Stories who isn't Kevin Bishop. the man in the picture kept popping up too, except each time with bushier eyebrows than before.

the man in the picture kept popping up too, except each time with bushier eyebrows than before.

You got a season arc right there.

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the last three have been, tho enjoyable, quite frustrating. so glad Moffat's back next week.