Dave Matthews Band : Name Your Reasons Why They Are So Bad & Hated.

" I dare say that without Killing Joke, most of your precious "heavy sounding" bands wouldn't even exist. Killing Joke have indulged in a myriad of different musical styles and sounds well beyond the monochromatic 'heavy', yet when they choose to go that route, there is no one mightier. To judge Killing Joke by one or two tracks is an excercise in blind-sighted stupidity. Do your homework before submitting an opinion! Moreover, if you're put off by the conceptual/lyrical content of Killing Joke, why not toddle home and slap on a Pixies or Cheap Trick album and celebrate the meaningless and banal. At least Killing Joke have something to say. You may not like it, agree with it...or even understand it....but at least there something of substance there. Killing Joke credit their audience with higher standards and a modicum of intelligence. Try getting that from Korn."

I'd like to think I've mellowed a bit since then.

Your argument about people who've like DMB being the most open-minded about music is completely false in my experience, as the people I know who knew them when they were a jam band playing colleges in upstate New York tend to stick exclusively with the Shawn Colvin/Meredith Brooks/DMB/Hootie and the Blowfish/Sting axis of music and consider U2 to be the outer limits of acceptability. Your argument about them not being exclusively for white middle-class is accurate; they're aimed at black middle-class, too (although few would admit to listening to them, particularly when faced by the nu-soul/back-to-hip-hop mafia).

Alex does have a valid point; one reason why people may be coming down harder on naga than he/she actually deserves is because his initial post reads as Yet Another Fanboy Attack and people tend to want to jump up and down on posts like that until they squeal. (Well, I do anyway.)

You've just spotted another.

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Heya Naga. Me, I lurv Rush, the new album's great. I also think Dave Matthews Band are a blight upon the world, but I would. ;-) Favorite band is My Bloody Valentine -- check them out sometime. Welcome to us. Alex stuck around, you should too.

thanks everyone. i can't say anythingabout DMB that hasn't already been said. well, i can try "shiny-chinned smuggorama overload" but that's not really helpful.

the travis/stereophonics/ocs = dmb/hootie/cunting crows is spot-on, well done. can we all go home now?

What that says about "our" collective tastes, I'm not entirely sure...

Oh well. *sigh*

- "I Shall Be Free No. 10", B. Dylan

Secondly, I think the lyrics are stirring and evocative; they make me feel the emotion that the song is trying to convey. I also think that Dave Matthews is a very honest songwriter - he really seems to feel what he is writing. As to the lyrics being misogynistic, I don't see any evidence.

RE: the fans - I am not an attorney nor am I an accountant; I am not in college presently, and I have never been inside a frat house (personal choice). I also bathe daily, brush my hair, and find patchouli nauseating. I have never been nor will I ever be a hippie.

Enough said on my part.

... all of them mediocre at best.

Why do people hate him? EZ: He sucks.

Who do so many peole like him: EZ2: He sucks.

I swear to the deity of your choice, I was *NOT* quoting "the Simpsons"! I haven't even watched "the Simpsons" since about 1996. Get over it!

DMB and Mayer are rilly nothing alike aside from the "guy with guitar" thing and even that's pushing it given DMB's lush orchestration and Mayer's uh... lack of that.

DMB's earlier stuff rilly was quite unique sounding but ultimately it frustrated me coz every single was "unique" the same way and Crash was as pleasant a song to idle a summer away to as any Belle and Sebastian and most importantly I would FAR prefer DMB to Wilco, GY!BE, Sigur Ros, or any other "dreamy" semi-popular hip alterna-dross out there.

Not that I listen to any really, but.. I mean haven't we gotten over hating a band for its audience? Tho i suspect that the real root of the hate is that fratboy whatever types listen to DMB and feel "deep" and the gulf between the claim of "deep" and the not really that deep followthru or between "musically inventive" and the okay-not-really-that-inventive followthru is what puts foax off -- "Oh my god! People are looking for MUSICAL INNOVATION and getting THIS instead!" when in fact people are looking for something like DMB and getting precisely that.

I mean, fratboys put on Roxy to feel "sexy" -- does that make Roxy Music bad?

Nope. DMB still eats, though. Rather than saying they're better than Godspeed/Sigur etc., I'd prefer to equate them. ;-)

To that freaking hippie, can you not see Dave Mathews Band suck my farty wind?!?! How can you not feel the vibe!!?!